Tyre defation tool

[jonnycutter]

Hi,

I have read The extrication book by Ron Moore and in it, is a tool called Rapidair, which is used for tyre defation.

Can anyone tell me as to where i can get hold of this tool please, many thanks.

Jon

[DCFDRescue2]

We use something like this:

http://www.sjdiscounttools.com/mils-698.html

It locks itself onto the valve so you don't have to sit there and hold it. If you put a 1/4" male on the back of it, it will allow you to inflate the tires for the wrecker driver, should you want to, as well as make it easier to handle the chuck with gloves on.

[charlie82]

I know many people who simply rip off the valve stems with a pair of pliers. If the car is being cut apart, whats some tires to the damage?

[Catch22]

I know many people who simply rip off the valve stems with a pair of pliers. If the car is being cut apart, whats some tires to the damage?

Ask the wrecker driver who has to do a lot more work (while you stand out in the middle of traffic trying to keep you and him from getting hit) in order to tow a vehicle with tires he can't reinflate. Unless the towing services in your area have nothing but roll-backs, deflating is a better option than cutting or ripping off the valve stems.

[fireman4949]

Ask the wrecker driver who has to do a lot more work (while you stand out in the middle of traffic trying to keep you and him from getting hit) in order to tow a vehicle with tires he can't reinflate. Unless the towing services in your area have nothing but roll-backs, deflating is a better option than cutting or ripping off the valve stems.

Deflate the tires the quickest, safest way...While not intentionally trying to make a wrecker driver's job more difficult, I WILL NOT waste time during an extrication just to make his job a little easier.

If the wrecker is a sling boom, they all have dollies for exactly this reason.

I will cut or pull the entire valve stem. It's fast, safe and efficient.

[jonnycutter]

Guys as much as debate is good, can we not distract ourselves from the original post.

Which was, does anyone know where i can get a tool call Rapidair from. As seen in Ron Moores Book.

Thank you for the 1 reply refering to this so far :)

[Catch22]

Guys as much as debate is good, can we not distract ourselves from the original post.

Which was, does anyone know where i can get a tool call Rapidair from. As seen in Ron Moores Book.

Thank you for the 1 reply refering to this so far :)

Have you thought to check at our local auto parts store? Or even to see if the local towing company might know?

The only thing I found on a google search was a replacement stem that allows for rapid deflation on off-road vehicle tires. They call it a RAD (Rapid Air Deflator) valve.

[jonnycutter]

Hi Catch22,

Thanks for the reply ill check it out on the net, i have googled it but can not find this specific tool, could you possible post a link please for the RAD you refere too. cheers mate.

[Catch22]

Hi Catch22,

Thanks for the reply ill check it out on the net, i have googled it but can not find this specific tool, could you possible post a link please for the RAD you refere too. cheers mate.

Just put "rapidair tire deflator" into google, you'll get tons of them. You might also try "Klune-V", which is the manufacturer of the one I found.

[ejfeicht]

You can utilize any of the air chucks designed for inflation that have a quick locking clip on them. These are readily available at most auto parts and hardware stores. Once they are locked onto the valve stem they will bleed the air out until the tire is deflated.

These are also another type of tire deflation device that can be attached to the valve stem:

http://www.thefirestore.com/store/product.cfm/pid_2314_tire_deflator_and_cor e_removal_2_in_1_tool/

[jonnycutter]

HI,

Some very useful information , thank you to everyone for your help :)

[BUITRE]

Hey guys,

It seems that only two or three answer our friend. That's right check on any garage. or tire repair place their inflating equipment usually come with this kind of part. And I completly agree with the fact that I am not going to risk time or safety in order to help the tow truck guys. BUT, I completly disagree with the pliers procedure. If you blow the tire or tear the valve you will not have any control while deflating the tire. If you, for some reason which could even be the patient's condition, don't control that procedure and the tire just goes down could make more harm than benefitt. So why not taking that extra second in shoving the deflating device into the valve. I know sounds cool blowing thing some times but isn't it better to be PRO'S when doing extrication?

KEEP SAFE!

[fireman4949]

Hey guys,

It seems that only two or three answer our friend. That's right check on any garage. or tire repair place their inflating equipment usually come with this kind of part. And I completly agree with the fact that I am not going to risk time or safety in order to help the tow truck guys. BUT, I completly disagree with the pliers procedure. If you blow the tire or tear the valve you will not have any control while deflating the tire. If you, for some reason which could even be the patient's condition, don't control that procedure and the tire just goes down could make more harm than benefitt. So why not taking that extra second in shoving the deflating device into the valve. I know sounds cool blowing thing some times but isn't it better to be PRO'S when doing extrication?

KEEP SAFE!

That is why you MUST CRIB FIRST! Once the cribbing is in place, an inch or so (less if cribbed and wedged properly) is all the vehicle will move when the tires are deflated.
Deflating tires prior to stabilizing and cribbing is potentially much more dangerous than just leaving the tires inflated and chocking them. ;)

By the way, I never stated, nor did I imply that I was a "PRO", but thanks for setting me straight! :rolleyes:

[Catch22]

That is why you MUST CRIB FIRST! Once the cribbing is in place, an inch or so (less if cribbed and wedged properly) is all the vehicle will move when the tires are deflated.
Deflating tires prior to stabilizing and cribbing is potentially much more dangerous than just leaving the tires inflated and chocking them. ;)

That's the key thing that most guys I see that deflate tires miss, cribbing. If you're dropping the car down to the cribbing, that's one thing. If you're deflating tires so you don't have to crib, it's another.

Just to avoid any confusion, I teach to put a wedge in tight using a 4x4 as a "hammer" or to lift slightly on the wheelwell and slip it under. My new trick (thanks to someone in another thread) will be to use the spreader to lift the car slightly.

[BUITRE]

Totally Agree. Just Saying That The More You Stabilize Your Vehicle The Better. So If You Crib. And Do 20 Different Stabilization Techniques Including Deflating. What The ..... Better And More Security For You And Your Team.

Keep Safe. By The Way Also Learn Spreader Technique. Jaja

[TimatRescue42]

We unscrew stems a couple of turns. Less violent and only takes a couple of seconds. If you clip a stem tool to each step chock, they're always right where you need them.

We prefer this to poking the sidewall or ripping out the stem. Those techniques are more fun and more "Truckie", but the fact is that the main danger to Firefighters is exposure to traffic. By taking the extra ten seconds to deflate, we can then screw the stem back in and re-inflate the tires. Your deflator tools would allow the same. We also have air chucks plumbed into our brake systems. Just grab the coil hose from under the drivers seat, pump a bit of air, and push the car off the road or minimize the tow trucks time to clear the Firefighters out of harms way.

By doing this you can often clear a scene a half hour or more faster than waiting for the tow truck to get to the scene, get into position for the tow and dolly the car. Not only less time in traffic for us, but by getting our unit available sooner may prevent a long response time for a cover unit if another call goes down. And that can save lives!

-Tim

[GaiusPaul]

Hi Catch22,

Thanks for the reply ill check it out on the net, i have googled it but can not find this specific tool, could you possible post a link please for the RAD you refere too. cheers mate.


The cheapest ones I've come across are the Rocket Down Tire Deflators. They come in a set of four in a key chain, and you just screw them on in place of the valve caps. I use them in my Jeep. They are not as quick as pulling the cores, or ripping the stem out, but all you have to do irs remove them to reinflate.

Out of stock at Amazon, but these are them: http://www.amazon.com/Tire-Deflators-Rocket-Down/dp/B000MFSXMK

I bought mine at the local 4WheelParts store.