training help.

[firebill911]

We have a 5K PSI older hurst set up, we are going to mare than likely purchase a whole new genesis set up for a new engine. I hear over and over that now matter what tool you have, if you are not trained, than the tool is worthless. I work for a small rural dept in southern oregon and we see a fare share of extrications. What is the best training you would reccommend and why? I am really interested in a train the trainer program, we have been approved to send someone to some training, just want to get a good course. THanks for the opinions and experiences.

[MetalMedic]

If you are buying Genesis Tools from Howell Rescue Systems, you will receive excellent training from whomever your sales representative is when you have your tools delivered. Everyone I have met from Howell is dedicated to making sure that their customers are happy with their tools and how they perform.

Beyond that, I would recommend that you negotiate two spaces at the Howell Crash Course training in Kettering, Ohio that they host each Spring as part of your purchase. That would be a great place for you to get a couple of your people trained in some advanced skills that they can bring back to share with you members while conducting your local training programs.

[BlandfordFire]

Use the tools.....plain and simple. Contact a local junk yard and see if they will be willing to donate vehicles. We have one that brings us cars whenever we want them. And don't just cut the cars on their wheels. Grab the guys and flip one over on its side...or roof. There are so many different scenarios, you should always be trying something different

[firebill911]

We have used local wrecking yard many times it just seems like after demoing many tools that there are a crap load of styles/techniques, I guess I would like to send someone to some training. Anyone using the holmatro or hurst CD for veh. info. Sounds like a good idea, anyone care to ring in?

[ejfeicht]

What levels of training or certification in vehicle rescue do your personnel currently have ? Does the Oregon State Fire Academy offer any vehicle rescue certification programs ? In PA we have Basic Vehicle Rescue Technician (BVRT) and Special Vehicle Rescue Technician (SVT) certifications offered through the Fire Academy and PA Dept of Health. If Oregon offers similar programs you could have your department personnel become certified in these areas.

Vehicle rescue training is very dynamic and continiously changing as vehicles continue to be updated. Todays vehicle rescue technician has to be a "VEHICLE RESCUE SURGEON" and needs to know the anatomy of todays vehicles in order sucessfully and safely perfom a rescue operation. Ron Moore presents a terrific vehicle rescue update program and this would be a great place to start prior to purchasing or taking delivery of your new tools.

Along with this I would concentrate training on basic and advance levels of vehicle stabilization techniques including the use of buttress stabilization.

As others have stated when you purchase your tools initial and follow up training on these tools should be included.

[firedog7]

Firebill 911,
I sent you a private message.
Firedog7

[MetalMedic]

Todays vehicle rescue technician has to be a "VEHICLE RESCUE SURGEON" and needs to know the anatomy of todays vehicles in order sucessfully and safely perfom a rescue operation.

"Vehicle Rescue Surgeon"... is that something like a "MetalMedic" LOL :D

Sorry... I sometimes can't control myself....

[firefighterbeau]

defiantely research the different brands of tools and get something good quality. Id go with a set of Hurst tools or Amkus, ive used both and found them to be awesome tools. Most of the sales reps can hook ya up with some first class training.

[RFRDxplorer]

I've taken extrication training through rescue resources the MI Genesis dealer and the training was top notch.

The class was excellent. I would highly suggest getting some sort of training from your dealer or going to crash course.