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SC2Tennessee

12-17-2008, 07:04 PM

I just checked the Charlotte FD website and they have the dates up for registraton and the 2009 written exam. This came straight from the site:

2009 HIRING PROCESS
The hiring process will begin with registration for the written exam. This is a general knowledge exam and there is no study guide. You will receive more information regarding the times and location after your registration is completed.

Online Registration - Opens: Thursday, January 15, 2009 at 8:00am (EST)

Online Registration - Closes: Friday, Febraury 27, 2009 at 5:00pm (EST)

Written Exam: Saturday, March 7, 2009

FiremanEMT911

12-23-2008, 12:59 PM

sweet thanks, I was registered for last years when i got stuck on a fire the night before and the test was on my birthday so i didnt feel up to driving to charlotte that morning lol
but ill be there this year.

kyhunter42

01-19-2009, 08:35 PM

Who's all applying for the 2009 process. I heard that they have hired all that they are going to hire from the 2008 list. A good friend of mine got in the academy that starts on Jan 28th.

kyhunter42

01-20-2009, 10:51 PM

So who's applying for Charlotte 2009?

sbfd48

01-23-2009, 05:20 PM

Hey guys,

Applying to Charlotte for this upcoming test. I am from New England, can anyone provide any information about the area. I have only visited the area a few times, so i am looking for insight from those of you who live there. Cost of living, crime, good place to raise a family, schools...things like that. Thanks and good luck to you all.

Oh and any rumors id and how many are planning on being hired? Also, how long is the list good for?

fire3fighter0

01-23-2009, 11:09 PM

I will be there again this year. I have heard that on average it takes 3-5 times of testing before you get hired. Now that's not to say you can't do it in 1 or 2. Good luck to everyone this year. sbfd, if you go to www.bestplaces.net/col/ you can enter info rom where you currently are and then where you want to go, and it will give you a comparison of several different things. Cost of living being the main one. It will also compare food cost, health care costs, etc. Hope that will be of some help to you.

dmfireschool

01-24-2009, 01:33 PM

For those of you taking the 2009 exam, go to the link below. It gives you an idea what the process for 2008 was like.

Good luck !

http://forums.firehouse.com/showthread.php?t=96918

www.fireprep.com
1-800-989-FIRE

sbfd48

01-25-2009, 07:29 PM

Can anybody provide info on what the written test consists of? Memory, math, reading comprehension...

dmfireschool

01-25-2009, 08:27 PM

The testing subjects in the past few exams have included the below subjects

Understanding Oral directions
• Understanding Written Materials
• Interpersonal Relations
• Math and Arithmetic Reasoning
• Maps, Diagrams and Mechanical Drawings

www.fireprep.com
1-800-989-FIRE

spartylax3

01-25-2009, 08:36 PM

I am looking to test in Charlotte...but noticed the Greenville SC is hiring also...does anyone in the area have information about this department?

Thanks...

Trackhoe71

01-25-2009, 11:26 PM

I ll be there, coming down from easten PA, really looking forward to it ive herd a lot of great things about the city and the area, this will be my first time there, but am really excited about this test.

formerbuckeye

01-25-2009, 11:27 PM

Charlotte was one of the harder written tests that I've taken, but it was also very fair as i recall (aka if you were smart you'd do well and move on). The test started off with a memorization/direction following/math segment at the beginning that was a little tough, but i made it through ok, the rest was a typical civil service test.

A buddy of mine I took the test with got hired (first try) and LOVES it. He is on a busy Ladder Co. and goes to a pretty fair amount of fire. He and his wife bought a GREAT condo in the Ballentyne section of the city for around 140k....and it is AWESOME i went and stayed with him a while back and it was really a top notch place in a great part of the country.

Gary4cfd

01-26-2009, 12:24 AM

Hey everyone my names is gary i just finished with my fire protection degree this past year and this is my 3rd year trying out with the charlotte fire department. first year ('07) i passed the written and cpat and got a rejection letter in june of 08. last year i got to an interview and did not make it. everyone has to remeber where in a real volitial time with the economy so expect hiring to be slim. hopefully third time is a charm. i have also heard that it takes an average of 3-5 times before you get hired. its a long process if i can give anyone any advice as to what to expect just let me know, good luck.

FFER55

01-26-2009, 11:18 PM

Maybe someone can answer some of my questions?? I am from MI and was thinking about taking the exam..
- Do out of staters have to come down each time (seperate) for the steps in the process?
- Any solid info on the # posible to hire and how is the economy and future looking down there?
- Does having a medic help and do they run ALS and do they transport?
- How long is the academy and will all of my MI certs transfer (EMT-P/FF)?
- Is there recruiters that I can call and talk to?
I know some of these questions have been posted in the previous 08 thread, but I was looking for the most updated info. Thanks for any info and good luck to all that test.

Trackhoe71

01-27-2009, 12:20 AM

I was just looking over the registration process and noticed the " Personal History" and the " Background Questions". I didnt fill them out when I did my Initinal Registration. I filled out the form and cliked submit. My question is am I missing something, did I need to fill these out when I put in my application, or are these after you past the written. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advace.

Jordan

fire3fighter0

01-27-2009, 03:22 PM

Track, if my memory serves me correct, you will fill the rest of it out after you pass the written.

FF, Yes out of staters have to come for each part of the test. It sucks but it will be worth it if you get hired.
A friend of mine told me that this is going to be a good year to get hired. They have several guys retiring and then have to backfill for slots already open. Wasn't sure on exact #'s though. I do know that they always run a minimum of 1 class a year. It is a long process though so hang in there.
Medic may help but they do not run als YET. I have heard it rumored that they are eventually going to start.
The academy is 21 weeks and no your current certs don't count. Everyone goes through the same 21 weeks as the others.
From what my friend told me, the economy is good as far as public safety goes there. They have not yet cut much if anything from the FD and PD budgets.
As far as talking to someone, go to http://www.charmeck.org/Departments/Fire/Home.htm
That may be able to answer questions better and they will have all the phone #'s for you to call. Hope this helps guys. Good luck in march.

Trackhoe71

01-27-2009, 04:58 PM

thank you Firefighter

Sach1912

01-27-2009, 11:39 PM

Hey guys my name is Mark, and this will be my second time taking the test. Last year I passed the written and physical tests as many did. No interview. For those of you taking the test March 7th, good luck! The process is very long, and patience is key. If anyone has any questions reguarding the past years testing format, feel free to write to me. For the guys doing it all again, I hope this is your year.

Trackhoe71

01-28-2009, 12:18 AM

another quick question to anybody that can help. does anyone know the approx. length of the test. I recall reading somewhere to allow 4 hrs for the test, but cant seem to find that info anymore. the only reason i ask is becasue my gf and i will be flying back to baltimore md saturday night , becasue of emt class the next day up here in pa. just looking for time if anyone can help so i can make my arrangements. thanks guys for all the help.

Jordan

fire3fighter0

01-28-2009, 01:57 PM

Trackhoe if ou go to the link i posted in my other reply, and go to recruitment. they have a FAQ page that tells you to prepare for 4 hrs. They are usually pretty good about getting everyone registered that morning and seated so they can begin on time.

Aaron

Trackhoe71

01-28-2009, 09:25 PM

I found it as soon as i posted my last post, but thankS Aaron for all your help.

Jordan

FFER55

01-28-2009, 09:31 PM

Thanks for the info. How many steps are in the process..Written/physical/cpat/interview/pscy/medical. How many total (seperate) steps. Can I send a cpat and not take it there since it is supposed to be a national standard test? Thanks again..

SC2Tennessee

01-29-2009, 12:49 PM

Go down a little and there is section that tells you all the steps in the process.

http://www.charmeck.org/Departments/Fire/Recruitment/Recruitment+Information.htm

As far as the CPAT, you might want to contact the recruiter.

Sach1912

01-29-2009, 02:13 PM

Just like stated in the previous post, your best bet is to contact the recruit division (704-336-2979) regarding the CPAT. Although, I believe you must be present for all steps of the hiring process.

fire3fighter0

01-29-2009, 03:57 PM

I have asked the question before about taking cpat somewhere else and was told that yes you have to be present no matter what.

Aaron

NBFSPQ

01-30-2009, 11:12 AM

Did anyone get a phone call from the recruitment office in regards to the 2009 written exam?

Thanks.

Gary4cfd

01-30-2009, 04:33 PM

I heard today that they are going to have to have 2 different test locations for this exam. it turns out that there are more people trying out this year than in the past 5 years.

SC2Tennessee

01-30-2009, 04:58 PM

Hey Gary, I just got a recorded message this morning telling me that the original test location has been changed and what I needed to do to confirm my registration. Are there going to be two locations or are they changing the location all together?

Trackhoe71

01-30-2009, 05:39 PM

i got a message too, the lady said that ill be taking mine at the Westin Hotel , i looked up the hotel, and the biggest room they have can accomdate 1250 people, so im thinking there will be two places. has anybody herd of how many are actually applying?

Peter25

01-30-2009, 07:41 PM

I got a call today as well, informing me that the test was moved to the Westin Ballroom. I took a look at the Recruitment page on Charlotte's website and it had some more details. Everyone who registered before 1-28 will test 3-07 at the Westin. Those who registered 1-29 and later will test 3-14. Good luck!

dmfireschool

01-30-2009, 08:55 PM

2009 HIRING PROCESS

The hiring process will begin with registration for the written exam. The written test is usually only offered once per year. However, we have reached capacity for original first test date and have re-opened registration for an additional test date. All applicants who registered between January 15th and January 28th have been assigned a test appointment on March 7th. All applicants registered after January 29th will receive an assigned exam appointment on March 14th. No date changes/swapping will be permitted. This is a general knowledge exam and there is no study guide. You will receive more information regarding the times and location after your registration is completed.

Online Registration - Opens: Thursday, January 15, 2009 at 8:00am (EST)

Online Registration - Closes: Friday, Febraury 27, 2009 at 5:00pm (EST)

Click here to register! Please note: Once registered, you will receive a confirmation email to the address you provided (make sure the email contains a confirmation number). Most internet providers recognize the email as junk. Therefore, please check your junk mail before calling to report a problem.

~~ 2009 Career Day Open House ~~

You are invited to the Charlotte Fire Department's 4th Recruitment Open House on Saturday, February 14th from 10am-2pm at Station 10 (located at 2810 Wilkinson Blvd). The open house is free and no registration is required. This recruiting event is open for anyone interested in learning more about firefighter and support positions of the CFD. Firefighters and personnel, along with members of the Fire Explorers program will be on hand to answer questions. The Fire Explorers program is open to individuals ages 14-20, who meet and maintain requirements set forth by the program.

Those interested in applying for the 2009 firefighter hiring process can register on-site for the upcoming written exam. You will also have an opportunity to participate in sample CPAT events, including the stair climb, hose drag, equipment carry, and rescue. Light food and refreshments will be provided.

Please note: We have reached capacity for the original test on March 7th. Therefore, anyone registering after January 28th will be assigned a test appointment on Saturday, March 14th. All questions pertaining to the hiring process and the open house should be directed to the Recruitment Office at cfdrecruitment@ci.charlotte.nc .us or 704-336-2979.

www.fireprep.com
1-800-989-FIRE

james077

01-31-2009, 01:46 PM

Everyone this is the test to take if you want to get on the job. Few brothers down there said opening 4 more stations.

Gary4cfd

02-01-2009, 06:01 PM

Hey Guys, in respose to some of the questions about the new testing location. I have heard from a BC of charlotte that they are having to change the location of the test to accomadate for the large number of applicants. the hotel can hold around 1300 people. since there are two test sessions its a pretty safe bet that there are around 2000-3000 applicants, more than any other testing year. alot of it has to do with the high number of job loss around the state and country and everyone trying to get on with a "pretty secure" job. they only hired 20 guys off of the 2008 process so i think this year is not gonna look good for hiring. best of luck

kyhunter42

02-02-2009, 05:55 PM

" think this year is not gonna look good for hiring."
All you can do is try and hope that you make the cut.

fireguy52

02-03-2009, 01:20 AM

UUUMMM I am pretty sure they are goin to need more than twenty this year they are already working on Station 40 in north east Charlotte. But yes the number of Apps. this year is crazy for them to have to have two different testing dates. GOOD LUCK TO EVERYONE !!!! If you havnt been through the process for Charotte the written test isn't bad but start getting prepared for the CPAT by running and working out .... you don't want to be one of the many that they have to stick with IV and fluids!

Gary4cfd

02-03-2009, 09:29 AM

Well considering they told us in the 2008 process that they were to hire between 40-60 and there is only one class of 20, i think its safe to assume that the number isnt going to change drastically. And that was with station 39 that just opened in december 2008. Now this doesnt mean they wont hire a significant amount of recruits. I know the past two years i have done the process they havent hired the amount they said they might or could. with this being said just make sure your papers are in order, your references are good. and go all out on the cpat. you only get on shot.

Trackhoe71

02-03-2009, 06:07 PM

anyone going down on the 14th to the open house?

kyhunter42

02-03-2009, 11:26 PM

I might make it down for the open house. Right now I'm on duty that day and I'm trying to find someone to cover my shift.

eng721ine

02-06-2009, 11:02 PM

Just went to the graduation of class 78 yesterday. Classes 79 and 80 are currently in session. So they have def hired more then 20 from the 08 list. A few guys on the job there told me the city plans to have about 2500 -3000 test over the 2 dates in March. Good Luck to all!!

eng721ine

02-06-2009, 11:07 PM

Just attended the graduation of class 78 yesterday. Classes 79 and 80 are in session already. So it could be safe to say they have hired more then 20. I talked to a few guys on the job and they said the city expects 2500- 3000 people testing over the 2 dates in March. Good Luck to all!!

dmfireschool

02-09-2009, 06:59 PM

For those of you preparing for the 2009 Charlotte fire exam, go to the link below for custom designed exam prep. Good luck !

http://www.fireprep.com/charlotte_firefighter_exam_pre 1.html

NBFSPQ

02-17-2009, 03:07 PM

Per Friday's Charlotte Observer 2800 applicants for 50 positions........

medic439

02-19-2009, 10:39 PM

I am looking for some help here.. I am going to be coming down to take the test this March and I have a few questions. First I would like to know if anyone has information on the salary other than the starting pay. I am a full-time firefighter right now and I am looking at a starting salary that is a couple thousand lower than what I am making now. I know with my current dept. the salary increases significantly after the first couple years. Anyone know what its like in Charlotte? Secondly, the dept I work for is a member of IAFF and our union is strong. I know NC is a right to work state and I am wondering how much leverage the union has in Charlotte? Any help would be apreciative!

thanojon

02-20-2009, 04:54 AM

Per Friday's Charlotte Observer 2800 applicants for 50 positions........

haha. thats actually decent odds compared to some of the other tests ive seen

NBFSPQ

02-20-2009, 11:17 AM

http://www.charmeck.org/Departments/Fire/Home.htm

Google is a great thing.

I agree with ya. My current department tested 3500 for a class of 55. I got in. Never lose faith.

Be safe.

sbfd48

02-26-2009, 08:39 PM

Everybody ready for the test. 10 or so days away. First time taking it. Anybody know what sections make up the test?

Trackhoe71

02-26-2009, 10:16 PM

im gettig ready first time there, hopefully the weather's decent my gf and i are leaving PA thursday morning so hopefully its a little warmer down there

Hewartson47

02-27-2009, 09:41 AM

From the CFD website:

"Registration for the 2009 Written Exam has CLOSED. Due to the overwhelming responses, registration for the written exam closed on February 15th."

Seems a bit odd to post a closing date and then move it up, even if there were an extraordinary high number of applicants.

Chris09

03-02-2009, 05:47 PM

This is my first post i am a volunteer in VA and am taking the test this saturday anyone else taking the test at the 1230 time slot? if so we should meet up before hand have breakfast or somethin anyways post back.

NBFSPQ

03-07-2009, 10:51 PM

Alot of people...Good luck to all.

NBFSPQ

03-07-2009, 10:51 PM

How do you think you all did?

kyhunter42

03-08-2009, 08:44 AM

I was expecting a lot more people to show up. The test wasn't bad.

fire3fighter0

03-08-2009, 09:05 AM

kyhunter,
It didn't look like many people because there were 2 test times sat. One in the morning and one in the afternoon. They are also giving 2 more on the
14th. They had around 3000 people sign up to take the test. Good luck to everyone who took the test this year. I thought the test was good.

kyhunter42

03-08-2009, 11:47 AM

I thought there might have been 2 test each day, but I wasn't sure. It doesn't matter to me how many people test. You can only do your best and hope that you rise to the top.

Trackhoe71

03-08-2009, 03:15 PM

I also thought it was a good test, My hat is off to the Charolette Fire Department, I thought they were very organized, and did everything in a timley manner.

cityguy888

03-11-2009, 07:45 PM

What did everyone think of the test? Did anyone hear any new info while at the test as far as time frame, numbers being hired or anything else while they were there?

I know the chief told our session (3/7 am) that there is a lot of people and it's gonna take a long time but was not sure if anyone actually struck up any other conversations when they were standing around.

NBFSPQ

03-16-2009, 02:16 PM

Anyone know a final number of the applicants that actually tested?

kyhunter42

03-16-2009, 02:28 PM

A guy that tested with me counted 16 people per row and a total of 29 rows. Do the math and thats 464 for one session and there were 4 sessions. I don't know how accurate his estimate was. I know I counted 16 per row, in the rows around me, but I was all the way in the front. I could have varried a little in the back. I would guess that there probable was about 1800 total, but that is just a guess.

Firedogg81

03-19-2009, 12:52 PM

I did not believe the test was too difficult.Lol I had to really tune in on the listening and memory part becuase I was going on like 3 hrs of sleep. But I do not believe the test was too bad. Anyone know when we should start hearing back from them about our results?

NBFSPQ

03-22-2009, 02:16 PM

Anyone by any chance hear anything yet from the written exam? Did they say when we should start getting our results back?

Thanks.

spartan1981

03-23-2009, 12:22 AM

What kind of background do you guys have? Do you'll have emt certification, cpr training, or volunteer experience? I have a degree and solid work experience managing people. I was actually in charge of safety and efficiency for a warehouse. But, I have no fire or emt experience. Do you guys think I stand a chance? What can I do to improve my chances by the time selection comes around?

Sach1912

03-23-2009, 12:55 PM

You should hear results within 4-6 weeks of the test date. They said it may be through the mail or by email.

spartan1981

03-23-2009, 09:23 PM

We were told if we haven't heard by April 15th, to contact a recruiter.

fire3fighter0

03-25-2009, 04:51 PM

Just found this today that letters will be mailed out on April 1st.

kyhunter42

04-01-2009, 09:02 PM

The letters are out. I got mine today.

NBFSPQ

04-02-2009, 12:05 PM

kyhunter42,

How did you do?

kyhunter42

04-02-2009, 02:37 PM

I passed. I'm scheduled to practice my CPAT on May 26th. I wasn't expecting to get three chances to pass the CPAT. Hopefully one is all that I need.

Trackhoe71

04-02-2009, 11:38 PM

anyone else get theres yet?

NBFSPQ

04-03-2009, 05:12 AM

No letter yet. I love seeing fat and overweight people and also people that think they are cool try to pass the CPAT. Not making funny, but if you want the best job in the world, get off your *** and get ready if you never did the CPAT.

cfish3321

04-03-2009, 12:28 PM

ya i got my letter yesterday to take my CPAT but they didnt tell me the actual score, just that i passed. i am not worried but it is funny how many out of shape people took the written. how do they expect to pass the physical. i wish everyone the best and start your strenght and endurance drills to practice!

fire3fighter0

04-04-2009, 05:50 PM

Got my letter that i passed too. Charlotte doesn't give test scores. Only pass or fail. They don't have a ranking system. As long as you continue to pass, you are considered in the running for hire. Good luck to everyone this year on the CPAT.

ffmahone10

04-05-2009, 03:49 PM

I passed as well. Going down April 20th to do the walkthru

Trackhoe71

04-06-2009, 05:23 PM

I passed too.
Did anyone happen to here, how many people actually took the written.

ffmahone10

04-08-2009, 01:10 PM

I talked to someone of pretty decent importance yesterday and he said they cut off the number of applicants at 2,800.

Trackhoe71

04-08-2009, 05:17 PM

Just wanted to congradulate everyone on passing the written test and moving on to the next step. Unforunatly, I didnt see the automatic disqualifiers on there website and even though I passed the test, I cant move on becasue of a Dui that happened a little over 2 years ago, which im very ashamed of and disapointed in myself of. But on a brighter side , just wanted to wish everyone good luck on there way to getting a badge , and one day I hope to join the rest of ya.

Jordan

Peter25

04-09-2009, 12:46 PM

Anyone hear how many are moving on to the CPAT? Good luck everyone!

Mundyba

04-10-2009, 12:14 AM

I got the letter that I passed as well. Anyone know what the criteria to achieve a pass was? Also how many people did they bring back for the cpat?

ffmahone10

04-10-2009, 06:39 PM

Have you guys passed the CPAT before? I'm working out like a mad man. woohoo! I'm so excited. I hope I filled out my personal history adequately enough

kyhunter42

04-21-2009, 04:55 PM

Did anyone go down for the orientation? If so, what did you think. I made it down for a sesion on the 20th.

Peter25

04-21-2009, 05:12 PM

Has anyone heard how many will be hired from this process, and when the first class may be?

kyhunter42

04-21-2009, 05:22 PM

The Capt at orientation said that there was 1600 people left in the process and they were hoping to hire 50 off this list. Enough to fill 2 academies, but they don't have a definite number yet. I'd say they won't know anything until the city passes the budget for the upcoming budget year.

ffmahone10

04-24-2009, 04:31 PM

i went down as well on the 20th...had a pretty good time. I would say atleast half will get knocked out during the CPAT

kyhunter42

04-24-2009, 04:35 PM

Saying half is being nice. I though only about 1/3 would pass from my group. You could tell that that alot of people's eyes where opened as to how tough the CPAT is.

kyhunter42

04-24-2009, 04:38 PM

Which session where you in?

ffmahone10

04-24-2009, 05:07 PM

i was in the 10 o clock session.

ffmahone10

04-24-2009, 05:09 PM

email me ky

utkmba12@yahoo.com

kyhunter42

04-24-2009, 05:09 PM

I made the 9 am. When is your CPAT. I go May 26th

ffmahone10

04-24-2009, 05:10 PM

i saw a 40 yr old or so lady trying to sling that sledgehammer and she was having a rough time. we will see come may 27th!

ffmahone10

04-24-2009, 06:50 PM

may 27th...im so ready for that day. but i just want to just keep going as long as i can!!

battlecomedown

04-25-2009, 11:03 AM

I made the orientation on the 20th, and have the CPAT scheduled on the 26th. As for rates of failure for the test, 50% seems like a reasonable number to me. Many departments, even those that use some form of the Combat Challenge as a physical testing standard report high failure rates for their candidates. The key is to not get ****y, no matter how physically fit you may be. Keep training and good luck!

battlecomedown

04-25-2009, 11:14 AM

I was the the orientation on Apr. 20th, and have a CPAT scheduled May 26th. 50% seems like a reasonable failure rate, as even departments that use some form of the Combat Challenge as a physical test report high failure rates. The trick to passing any physical is to keep from getting ****y, no matter how fit you may be. Keep training, especially on your cardio. Good luck to all.

Oh, and regarding the 40+ year-old woman struggling with some of the events, I wouldn't assume that she's going to fail. She still has two months worth of training possible before the Final CPAT in June. Don't count anyone out.

fire3fighter0

04-26-2009, 10:40 AM

I too will be there on the 27th. Good luck to everyone!

NBFSPQ

05-05-2009, 03:10 PM

Any new info out there about Charlotte?

battlecomedown

05-06-2009, 11:20 AM

I haven't heard anything new. CPAT run-thrus are scheduled this month, and the Final CPAT tests are in June. I figure even if you score a passing time on the practice, you won't hear anything until at least late June/early July, when everyone has been given three opportunities to pass. Charlotte is actually moving quickly through the process, compared to most departments.

NBFSPQ

05-06-2009, 06:38 PM

You say they are moving fast compared to other departments. Did they set a date for the academy yet or are they just testing to keep the applicant pool fresh?

battlecomedown

05-07-2009, 05:31 AM

I haven't heard of an academy start date. At the CPAT Orientation, the Capt. leading the classroom portion stated that they were looking to hire 50 firefighters (2 classes), if funding was available (FY 2010 starts on July 1st). They had a class going on when we were down there, so I would guess that they intend to hire. Also, I don't think that Charlotte "keeps a list" like other cities. When they test, they hire (knock on wood).

When I was in the running for my current department (Columbia, SC), after the initial round of testing, I didn't hear anything for months. All told, it took eleven months to get hired, and the process itself was much less organized than it has been with Charlotte. Just be patient, and you should hear something. Good luck.

AppSt06

05-08-2009, 02:35 PM

Hope training for the CPAT is going well for everyone. I know the orientation helped out a lot, saw how each event is all about technique and strategy. If any of you are on Twitter I suggest following the CFD at http://twitter.com/charlottefd gives live updates on major calls the city is running. Figure we're all trying to get on, this may only add fuel to the fire...no pun intended. While your at it, if you want, follow me as well... http://twitter.com/AaronStevens. Best of luck, I'll be in Charlotte the week for the test and take it on the 27th at 1.

-Aaron

battlecomedown

05-26-2009, 04:29 PM

Did anyone else take the CPAT today? I passed, but was not happy with my time. This was my first time running the CPAT, and I thought the marked path between events was redundant in parts (i.e. walk down one direction to come back up where you started, then turn left, instead of making the straight line), but I understand that it's the nature of the CPAT. Good luck to everyone who's yet to take it.

Also, any word on how many are taking the CPAT? I heard 1600 at the orientation, but today, I heard that roughly 900 were taking the Timed Runs.

kyhunter42

05-26-2009, 09:27 PM

I went through this morning. I passed with 2 minutes to spare, but a lot of people didn't. I saw a lot of yellow cards. As far as the walking distance being redundant, thats because the walking distance between each event is mandated by the CPAT test. If you shorten the distance then it is not the official CPAT test and the new test would to be validated.

battlecomedown

05-27-2009, 09:23 AM

Yeah, the CPAT is a decent measure of physical fitness, but maybe in the future, some aspects of it can be tweaked. Prior to yesterday, I've only ever taken a Combat Challenge type test, which places more emphasis on upper-body strength and less on a person's cardio fitness/stamina (because there aren't any events with a mandated time, like the stair climb). I finished in 9:41 yesterday, which isn't good, but the ceiling breach was easy, and I felt like I could have done a few more events.

You said you saw a lot of yellow cards? What time did you take the test? I was in the eleven o clock session, and I saw one person fail. What sucks for the people that passed yesterday is that everyone has the final opportunity to pass in June, which slows down the process.

3firefighter

05-27-2009, 11:17 AM

I was at the CPAT yesterday and was told that about 950 signed up for the CPAT. The Captain who was my proctor told me that about 100 wouldn't even show up, so that lowers it down to about 800...you have to figure half won't pass...now we are down to 400-450...not bad! Good luck to everyone!

kyhunter42

05-28-2009, 04:25 PM

3firefigher,
How did you do? I tested early on the 26th and there were 4 no shows in my group. I hung around because I have a buddy that tested in a later group. There were a few no shows and a lot of failures, but everyone still has about 2 weeks to get ready for the final.

3firefighter

05-29-2009, 09:10 AM

I was in the 2:30 group...but got moved up to the 2:00 since there were a lot no shows. I passed as well. I saw about 5 people in my group not pass out of roughly 15 guys. It sounds like we won't hear anything until July - December.

ffmahone10

05-31-2009, 09:05 PM

I passed mine as well on the 27th. There were probably around 5 in my group who did not pass. Im so nervous about the waiting game. Goodluck to all.

AppSt06

06-09-2009, 01:52 PM

Got a phone call from CFD today scheduling my Background interview for July. Has anyone gone through this process before? If so any advice? I have been told that assembling your packet correctly is vital or to avoid careless errors some people make. Also just curious, what would you say is formal dress for a department interview, coming from the business world I'm accustomed to having to go all out for formal events, suit and what not, but didn't know if that's the route I should go for this interview.

Most importantly good luck to all! Hopefully we'll be meeting one another at recruit school before too long!

-Aaron

NBFSPQ

06-10-2009, 02:39 PM

Which day did you take the CPAT?

AppSt06

06-10-2009, 06:18 PM

Which day did you take the CPAT?

I took it on the 27th.

eljefespeaks

06-10-2009, 09:22 PM

ffmahone10

06-10-2009, 10:50 PM

that was my thought as well

NBFSPQ

06-11-2009, 09:11 AM

That is why I asked which CPAT he was in.

battlecomedown

06-11-2009, 11:53 AM

Wear a suit if you have one. Congrats on getting the interview!

TDBROWNS527

06-17-2009, 02:25 PM

Anyone hear any information about when they are going to hold a class. My CPAT proctor said probably around January, but he wasn't 100% sure. Also, has anyone taken the polygraph with CFD before. If so, I would appreciate any information such as how many questions do they ask when your on the machine or how long it took to get results. I took one in Fairfax County, Virginia a few weeks ago and it was 4.5 hours of misery.

battlecomedown

06-17-2009, 05:46 PM

TDBROWNS527

06-18-2009, 12:06 AM

4 1/2 hours? That is a long time. I haven't heard about when a class was going to be offered, though our CPAT proctor stated that the department wouldn't know how many recruits it would be able to hire until December, so a January class does make sense.

Have you been called for an interview yet? I have mine on July 8th. Good luck to everyone still in the process.

I haven't gotten my phone call yet, but I am praying I get it soon. I am already an EMT and will be a medic in september. I know Charlotte doesn't run ALS, but they like people with training past high school. I am in the process in a few other departments, but Charlotte is the one I REALLY want. Good luck to you and everyone else in the hiring process.

NBFSPQ

06-18-2009, 02:41 PM

Are they still calling people? 4th year trying to get in. Is there a system for them to pick you to move on in the process? Still waiting on a call.

Thanks

ffmahone10

06-18-2009, 02:56 PM

I wish i knew more about how Charlotte conducts there hiring. Im anxiously awaiting a phone call and its just not arriving. Goodluck to all!

Gary4cfd

06-19-2009, 11:27 AM

There isnt really any method to their picking for interviews. I'v tried for the past 3 years and made it to a differnt part of the process each year. its a crap shoot really.

kyhunter42

06-19-2009, 05:36 PM

There's nothing to do now, but wait for the phone to ring.

northernlights

07-06-2009, 05:54 PM

I received my phone call a couple weeks ago as well.

AppSt06

07-09-2009, 04:40 PM

I had my background interview Monday. There were 6 people counting myself there for the 12:00. We sat for literally an hour and a half before anyone conducting the interview talked to us. The interview itself wasn't too bad, mine was with 2 people from the Civil Service Board. At the end I asked what their thoughts were on time frames and when one could hope to get a call if they were moving on. According to her, CFD plans to have 3 recruit classes with the first one starting as soon as September. The second in Dec or Jan and then one more after that. I got a call yesterday (Wednesday) from the recruitment office scheduling a polygraph in 2 weeks. It seems as if they are moving very quickly to get the first class filled. If you haven't gotten a call yet I wouldn't be deterred, as I am sure they will be looking to fill the next two classes in the near future. Good luck to everyone!

ffmahone10

07-10-2009, 04:15 PM

Appy State...do they do a set of the whole process for each recruit class? or if you don't get selected to the first can you make the second?

sbfd48

07-12-2009, 10:09 AM

AppST:

What type of interview was this? Is it a formal interview asking things like why you want to work here? Or is this an interview solely based upon your background. First time in this hiring process, any help would be great.

AppSt06

07-12-2009, 10:28 PM

FFM....I'd think they use the entire pool to fill the recruit classes. The more I've talked with various ppl from the department the more it seems as if they are looking to fill an early class, but don't worry too much if you're not it the first one, as I said I've been told they plan to have a total of three.

SBFD....Well yea, it is a formal interview, suit and all....the main focus of the interview was the personal history and background info you entered earlier in the process, however they do ask "typical interview questions" as well. Why you want to work for CFD, strengths, weaknesses, etc...Wasn't too sure what to expect, my first time through the process as well. You get finger printed then interview with a couple ppl not with CFD. Basically their prep work before they put you through the ringer with the poly....not looking forward to that, heard it's quite intimidatiing.

Gary4cfd

07-22-2009, 12:15 PM

Anybody heard any news?

Gary4cfd

07-24-2009, 09:25 AM

I just got back from a ride along, and talked to an individual who just finished his chiefs interview on Wedensday. Sounds like the Department is moving pretty quick to get the first class filled.

battlecomedown

07-25-2009, 12:23 PM

I had a polygraph on the 23rd, and have a panel interview coming up next month. I've heard that the first upcoming class will begin either in September or October. Good luck to everyone still in the process!

AppSt06

07-26-2009, 08:51 PM

I had my polygraph on the 23rd also. Panel interview on August 12th...when's yours Battle?

After taking my polygraph I talked with the interviewer and he said that he thinks the first class will start on the 3rd week of September or so. Followed by atleast one more class in probably January. And that the dept hopes to have one more class following that, but that is not definite. Obviously depends on the new budget and retirements.

He also strongly suggested researching panel interviews to be adequately prepared....anyone with previous experience and or advice?

battlecomedown

07-26-2009, 09:04 PM

My panel interview is on the 12th also, at 11:30. Name's Dave, by the way.

As far as the panel interview goes, I would say just act professionally and dress appropriately. If it's anything like the panel interview I took for Columbia (my current department), you will be presented with several scenarios to read through and answer, many of which will relate to situations in the work environment (i.e., "What would you do if you saw (x) occurring?"). The Charlotte interview may be totally different. I've never been through it, so I cant say for sure.

Fire Engineering publishes a booklet dealing with panel interviews. Check out www.fireengineering.com

Good luck, and hopefully we'll get into the September class.

northernlights

07-27-2009, 02:22 PM

how long was it between your background interview that your poly was scheduled? or did they schedule it during your background? checking my phone literally every 2 minutes lol

sbfd48

07-27-2009, 02:25 PM

battle:

Where did you find that booklet on the website? Have been looking for it, but unable to find it

northernlights

07-27-2009, 02:46 PM

ok...not sure why my posts arent coming up...

AppSt06

07-27-2009, 05:57 PM

Northern...I had my background on Monday July 6 and got a phone call on my way to the airport Wednesday July 8 to schedule the poly. Then a little later I got a call from the woman doing my reference/employment checks (so they did this after my background/prepoly but before the poly itself). Then after taking the poly, the tester assigned my panel int. But don't lose hope if you haven't gotten a call yet, without trying to sound like a broken record it looks like they are moving unusually fast to get this first class filled, then another one a few months later.

Dave, my panel is at 10:30...wonder if they're only planning on an hour for the interview...if so that's bad at all. I'll keep a look out for you when I finish. I also couldn't find the booklet you were talking about but did search panel interview on their website and read some of the forums, also simply googled panel interview...most sites I've read give generally the same advice.

mkb909

07-28-2009, 09:32 AM

Can anyone tell me how bad the polygraph was, I've got mine coming up this thursday. I'm not worried about it, but when my wife went through it for law enforcement she was seriously stressed out afterwards.

ApptSt06... So when you were through with the poly, they immediately scheduled you for a panel interview?

northernlights

07-28-2009, 11:04 AM

app.....yea my background wasnt more then 2 business days past today....im just wondering. Keeping my fingers crossed

battlecomedown

07-28-2009, 12:51 PM

The book I'm talking about is apparently out of print, but it is a Fire Engineering publication (1988). My Battalion Chief lent me his copy, and although it's old, it seems like many of the same principles would apply today. Here's a link to its Amazon.com listing:

http://www.amazon.com/Fire-Department-Oral-Interviews-Procedures/dp/0878149112/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1248795678&sr=1-1

As for my polygraph scheduling, I was called in the afternoon following my background interview. Unlike AppSt, I got a call from the background investigator today, almost a week after my polygraph test. I had assumed that my employment reference checks were done in the interval between the background and the poly. But, with as many applications as Charlotte has to sift through, it's understandable that certain steps are completed at different times for different applicants. Overall, the hiring process has been run extremely well.

The polygraph isn't bad, provided that you're honest. It was nervewracking for me, as it is for many people. Just try to relax.

Jetfan123

07-28-2009, 03:53 PM

hey guys new member to the forum here. If everyone doesnt mind me asking, what kind of backgrounds do you guys have. iv applied to charlotte 3 years now and cant manage to get passed the background interview. i have a 2 year degree in Fire Science, a clean background and Driver history, and was a EMT from '04-'08. but i have little fire experince. i think it may be my age being that im only 22. iv heard that the average age of recruits who get accepted is between 24-35. just wondering if anyone could give me some tips to help bolster my resume. thanks

AppSt06

07-28-2009, 06:25 PM

The polygraph wasn't too bad. I will admit I was stressing over it, especially the night before. A few days before the test I was talking with a friend about how in my prepoly they were asking me if I had ever done drugs besides marijuana (they're exact words) and I stated no, they kept repeating are you sure, even someone else's prescription and I was like no. Then talking to him he goes, "well I've taken someone's allergy medicine before." I then began to panic trying to remember if I've ever taken a friends prescription for a cold or injury.

When you get to the polygraph you meet the tester, he is extremely personable and thoroughly explains everything...his background, the equipment, how it works, etc...he asks if there is anything you have thought of since your last interview that you wanted to mention, I brought up my uncertainty about medicine and he basically stated that all the dept cares about is for recreational purposes and doesnt care if you took someones flu meds. He also goes over every question he could possibly ask while hooked up to the machine to get a baseline of answers but also as time to discuss or explain. There were even questions that he then reworded to, i.e. "other than MINOR SITUATIONS have you lied....."

As Battle said the most important thing is to be 100% honest, it's intimidating enough being hooked up to all that equipment, I could feel my heart beating through my back, it'd be pretty tough to conceal lies.

Yea, after my test he then reviewed all my results as I sat there not sure what he was doing, he then told me he was reporting to the FD that I was honest and then gave me my date and time for the panel interview.

Be prepared to have the same questions asked repetitively, I spoke with one veteran FF and he said this was one of the most nerve racking aspects for him...he kept wondering "is the computer saying I'm lieing" but don't worry this is normal. And like I said the tester is very nice....talk to him ask questions, be honest, express concerns, he is not there to trick you.

mkb909

07-28-2009, 10:13 PM

Jet... I don't know about everyone else here but I am making the transition from being a civil engineer over to ff, I do not have an emt license but I am a volunteer ff. Curious enough, I'm 23, but my dad who is on with charlotte says that there are some 18 yr old wonders on the dept. so I don't think age is a big issue, probably more how mature you are?

Apt...Did they ask you questions just off of the background questionaire, or was it a range of questions including the ones we've answered previously?

Jetfan123

07-29-2009, 10:21 AM

thanks for the info MK. good luck with your poly. hopefully ill get my call soon as well.

northernlights

07-30-2009, 10:42 AM

thanks for the info MK. good luck with your poly. hopefully ill get my call soon as well.

in the same boat as you jet. unfortunately....not lookin so hot. tryin to stay positive.

mkb909

07-31-2009, 12:39 PM

battle...Since your background investigation wasn't completed until after your polygraph, did the polygraph tester assign you a panel interview date/time or did cfd call you once the background was complete. I ask because it seemed everything went well at my polygraph, he only went over one set of questions twice and said that the panel interview was next and that cfd would call me.

northernlights

07-31-2009, 01:01 PM

has anyone gotten a call in the past week or two for a poly?

battlecomedown

07-31-2009, 07:37 PM

mkb -

i received a call the day of my polygraph, a couple of hours after i completed it. as for the background investigation, i think it might still be underway, as they called me earlier in the week and said they were going to start it.

TDBROWNS527

08-08-2009, 03:28 PM

I saw that you guys were having a hard time finding a book to properly prepare for a panel interview. A good book that I found that helped me a great deal in my most recent interview (not with CFD unfortunately) was a book called "Smoke your Firefighter Interview." Its written by Paul S. Lepore, and it has A LOT in good information such as interviewer scoring sheets, sample questions (with some example answers and reasoning for those answers), making a good first impression, and it even goes into what to expect at probationary orientation.

Like I said its a great book and I would highly suggest it to anyone pursuing a career in the fire service. Still waiting for my call from CFD, its not looking too good for me unfortunately, its only my first year applying. But I wish everyone luck who is moving along in the process.

mkb909

08-11-2009, 04:52 PM

Just got the call for the panel interview this friday, couldn't believe it.

TD... Thanks for the tip on the book, I looked it up online and its gotten rave reviews so I went ahead and got it. Good luck to those who haven't heard yet. The thinking from my dad whose in CFD is that if they have another class (January?) is that it might be to fill ladder 40 when the station is finished.

northernlights

08-11-2009, 05:46 PM

mkb909

08-11-2009, 07:27 PM

northern

I got the call for the poly the next business day after my background investigation, but I didn't get a call for my panel until almost a week and half after my poly so there's no telling what CFD is doing as far as a timeline.

battlecomedown

08-11-2009, 11:45 PM

congrats, mkb. when's your panel scheduled?

mkb909

08-12-2009, 08:56 AM

battle

It's this Friday the 14th at 8:30 a.m. Hope your panel goes well today, if you don't mind letting me know what it's like, was it high stress etc.

battlecomedown

08-12-2009, 07:06 PM

Mk-

Just remember to stay calm and present yourself well, and you'll do fine.

AppSt06

08-13-2009, 04:36 PM

Battle...
I had my panel interview yesterday. For the most part I felt it went well, but I couldn't really get a read off the panel and at then the interview concluded, did they say anything to you about when you may hear back?

Jetfan123

08-14-2009, 11:49 AM

Hey guys i just got my call this morning for a Background Interview on 8/21. No worries everyone, there still calling people. best of luck

northernlights

08-14-2009, 02:54 PM

got my poly scheduled

3firefighter

08-14-2009, 03:12 PM

Hey, I just received a call this morning as well for my background interview. It will be on Aug. 24th. Good luck to everyone out there!

mkb909

08-14-2009, 05:58 PM

Just got the nod today after the panel interview for conditional employment with CFD. I was almost too exicted to listen properly. All that's left is for my physical on monday and the civil service board after that. Too those still waiting in the process I can tell you definitely that while I was there the receptionist called at least 5 people about scheduling background checks and polygraph interviews. Good luck to those still in the running and to those who just got the call.

AppSt06

08-14-2009, 06:17 PM

Mkb...Congrats! So they gave you the offer on the spot?

AppSt06

08-14-2009, 07:24 PM

Mkb...Also, do you know if today (being Friday) was the last day of scheduled panels? I Noticed that no one else on the forum has gotten an offer yet...wondering if maybe they were able to give you your offer since they had already interviewed the majority of other candidates and people earlier in the week weren't given offers because there were still many more left to interview. Just a hopeful theory.

mkb909

08-14-2009, 07:34 PM

Thanks Apt,

Yea they offered me and two other people conditional employment offers after the panel. I don't think that that would be a bad assumption to make, I kinda figured that today might be around the last of the interviews based on how they've been working things and I don't think they would have been just handing out offers to the first people who came through the line. But this being CFD and me hearing the very nice receptionist calling people to schedule background interviews, there's no telling. Hope you hear something back from them.

Jetfan123

08-16-2009, 11:37 AM

Hey congrats! Mk, did they say what recruit class number you were hired for?

mkb909

08-17-2009, 09:01 AM

Jet

They didn't say specifically, but we had to have everything in, physical, bunker sizes etc. by this tuesday and one of the forms I saw said recruit class: fall so I'm figuring it's this one coming up...hopefully. Good luck to everyone still in the process, it seems evident that they may be planning for a second class so let's hope that's the case. Good luck to you jet.

BJJFIRE

08-17-2009, 11:55 AM

when you were done with the panel did you pick up a piece of paper from the secretary on front?

Jetfan123

08-18-2009, 04:33 PM

battlecomedown

08-18-2009, 05:03 PM

Congrats, mkb. Good luck with everything.

battlecomedown

08-18-2009, 07:18 PM

also, in response to an earlier post, i believe that this upcoming class will be recruit class 81, and will start sometime in late sep./early oct.

vfd111

08-18-2009, 11:43 PM

I haven't heard anything yet........

BJJFIRE

08-19-2009, 12:16 AM

Had my panel interview last week, but no word from them yet...hope it will come. Good luck to all of you waiting.

mkb909

08-20-2009, 12:33 PM

Thanks everyone

To repeat what battle has said, I heard once again from a very good source in CFD that there will be 3 classes this go around, one in september, one in november and one in january. Hope you guys hear something back from your panel.

battlecomedown

08-21-2009, 01:45 PM

hey mk,

sent you a pm.

Jetfan123

08-21-2009, 03:09 PM

Poly Monday 8/24

battlecomedown

08-21-2009, 03:12 PM

good deal, bro. if you've never taken one, it can make you nervous, but the gentleman running the test does an excellent job of laying the process out and helping to put you at ease.

3firefighter

08-21-2009, 03:19 PM

BJJFIRE

08-21-2009, 03:51 PM

3firefighter Good luck with the process... Once you are done with the interview they will give you a date for the poly right there..same for the poly, they will give you a date for the panel.

northernlights

08-21-2009, 05:13 PM

Poly Monday 8/24

good luck. let me know how it went...mine is after yours. what are you wearing? they said casual.....jeans and a tshirt?

for those that have taken it. do they give you a chance prior to the exam to explain something that may be questionable or concerning to them? I just want to discuss something with him that im unsure about.

mkb909

08-21-2009, 05:28 PM

battle,

For some reason my pm is not working, shoot me an email to mkb909@yahoo.com

Good luck jet, northern and 3fire. Taking the polygraph was not nearly as bad as I expected so don't worry to much about it, you do get the opportunity to talk to the guy if you've realized something after the fact, I myself asked him about two things that turned out to be complete non-issues but it's good if you do b/c he says those things could pop-up in your poly b/c you're worried about them. I was only hooked up to the machine for maybe 10 min. and that was it. He is a very nice gentleman who will talk to you a while and will explain everything twice. Please don't trust me on this, but as I understand it, if you get your polygraph and pass it, I think that means you have a chance at a panel interview, but don't quote me, I just don't think they would not go through the trouble of a background/poly if they didn't want to talk to you. Also, do not be alarmed if you don't hear from the background investigator, I never did and they never contacted my work or any of my references.

3fire... The background interview was when I was actually the most nervous because you're still in one of those weed-out spots. Of course dress in a suit, show up early and have your documentation EXACTLY like they want it, I had a second copy b/c I thought they needed it, but it never hurts to have a spare. They talk with you about why you're doing this, what are your strengths, examples of integrity, things of that nature. It's a good idea to think about these in detail and pick where your strengths and weaknesses are and any kind of real-life example you can bring to the table. You also get fingerprinted and sign your life away so they can investigate you. Also not a bad idea to practice "selling yourself" to them, i.e. how you speak, your mannerisms etc.

northern...Yes the polygraph is casual, I would recommend at a minimum, clean jeans and a short sleve polo, that's what I had as I was coming from work. You just never know who you will run into down there.

3firefighter

08-21-2009, 05:48 PM

MKB...thanks for the information...it is very helpful. I am looking forward to the interview. I have been going over a bunch of questions and scenerios in my head. Hopefully I am prepared! Good luck to everyone else out there too!

mkb909

08-21-2009, 05:52 PM

3fire

Something I forgot to mention was that to make sure that you are rehearsing these questions out loud so you know how your answers sound, it's something I've picked up on over the years due to some public speaking and it helps a lot. My wife poked fun a me alot b/c I was asking myself a question and then answering it but it took a lot of the butterflies away for both the background and panel.

Jetfan123

08-21-2009, 09:41 PM

Jetfan - Congrats...that is great. I have my background interview on Monday. How was the interview? Anything in particular? Were there many people there with you? Did they tell you as you were leaving the interview about your polygraph then or just call you later? Sorry about all the questions!

Thanks!!!

Hey man the background wasnt that bad. Its a little intimadating. Make sure you are truthful and as elaborate as possible. they will ask you basic questions like "why do you want to be a fire fighter?" and Strengths and weaknesses. Just be calm and confident and you will do fine. They gave me my poly date at the conclusion of the interview, but i have heard that they do call people later down the road if you dont get one right away. best of luck

Jetfan123

08-21-2009, 09:43 PM

good luck. let me know how it went...mine is after yours. what are you wearing? they said casual.....jeans and a tshirt?

for those that have taken it. do they give you a chance prior to the exam to explain something that may be questionable or concerning to them? I just want to discuss something with him that im unsure about.

Thanks Northern, im going to wear a nice pair of pants and a polo. Ill let you know how it goes.

3firefighter

08-24-2009, 07:32 PM

Jet and Northern, hope your polys went good. I had my background interview this morning and my poly is scheduled for Thursday 8/27...hope you guys did well!

Jetfan123

08-25-2009, 12:19 PM

Hey 3fire congrats on making it to the next step in the process. My poly went fine. I have my panel on 9/3. on the home stretch now. Im going to try to find that book that some of you guys were referencing on panel interviews. best of luck to everyone.

northernlights

08-26-2009, 11:01 AM

Jetfan123

08-26-2009, 02:32 PM

Hey Northern, Go ahead and send it to my email. Ganderson@jgr18.com

kyhunter42

08-26-2009, 03:40 PM

I got called for my background interview today. I've got it scheduled for next week. Another guy that I work with got called for his yesterday.

sbfd48

08-26-2009, 04:43 PM

Just got called for my background interview next week. Any advice from those who have gone through it? What to expect?

3firefighter

08-27-2009, 10:43 AM

Just had my poly...my panel is on 9/3 as well.

Good luck to everyone.

Background Investigator had said they will be making more cuts during the panel interview. Also, the first class should start mid-september then the next will be end of Dec/first of Jan. Probably a third class in April/May.

eljefespeaks

08-27-2009, 07:31 PM

Do you guys know whether they have already called everyone they will call for all three classes? Or do they recruit everyone for the first class then start calling people for the second class once that one is finished. Thanks.

vfd111

08-28-2009, 02:35 AM

Got a call about my background interview...it's the 1st.....

Jetfan123

08-28-2009, 11:57 AM

Hey El, this is just an idea. From everyone i have talked to at the CFD, they all claim that the applicants considered for hiring are put into an applicant pool and then decided on the best possible applicants to push through. It's a very generic answer they give, but im sure theres a little more to it than that. The first time i applied i never got an interveiw, and the year after that i got a call late in the year (November) I'm sure there going to be calling people up until January. Best of luck.

eljefespeaks

08-28-2009, 06:48 PM

Thanks Jetfan.

Awind25

08-30-2009, 06:17 PM

I had my background interview on Friday and got my poly scheduled for tomorrow!!

northernlights

08-31-2009, 01:44 PM

wow...theyre pushing a lot of people through the process.

3firefighter

09-03-2009, 04:50 PM

Just had my panel interview. 4 people (3 from CFD and 1 from HR). I think it went well...we will see what happens! Good luck to the other guys that had theirs today as well.

northernlights

09-04-2009, 10:26 AM

Just had my panel interview. 4 people (3 from CFD and 1 from HR). I think it went well...we will see what happens! Good luck to the other guys that had theirs today as well.

had mine as well. think it went fairly well. does anyone know if they were giving offers at the panel for this group?

Jetfan123

09-04-2009, 11:58 AM

Hey Guys i was offered my conditional Job offer yesterday after my panel interveiw. I believe there were a total of 4 who were offered jobs yesterday. when i went to get my medical physical i met an indiviaual who received an offer as well as when i went to get fitted for my turnout gear there had been 3 other guys there before me. Best of luck to everyone still in the process and those just starting theres!!!

mkb909

09-04-2009, 12:09 PM

Congrats Jetfan, bet you were excited when they told you. On your conditional letter, did it state when the earliest they could let you know you could recieve the final word from h.r?

Jetfan123

09-04-2009, 02:16 PM

Thanks MK, the letter stated October 6th for a date that they would tell me when i will be able to report to rookie school. They said November at the earliest. Have you heard when you will start yet? Shoot me an email if you like. Ganderson@jgr18.com.

kyhunter42

09-04-2009, 05:12 PM

I had my panel interview today. It was also followed with a conditional job offer. I asked about when the next class would start. The lady said one was set for Sept 21 and one is in Nov and the other in Jan. I heard the November one is supposed to start Nov 2. That is just what I heard. I also heard that they would do another round of interviews for the 3rd class.

Jetfan123

09-05-2009, 11:33 AM

Congrats KY!! Hopefully ill see you in Rookie School.

nctf8e16

09-08-2009, 09:37 PM

I just recently got my conditional offer, I'm thinking its for the November 2 academy. I'm looking for a roommate somewhere close to the training center. Any takers?

northernlights

09-11-2009, 12:07 PM

did everyone here who got offers get them right at the interview? just curious.

kyhunter42

09-11-2009, 01:52 PM

Everyone that I have talked to said that they were offered a conditional offer of employment after the interview. After the panel interview I was told to wait in the lobby in case they had additional questions. After about 5 to 10 minutes someone came in and talked to the receptionist. She asked me follow her to a back office. Once we were inside the office she told me that I was being offered a conditional offer of employment and that I needed to get my physical and get fitted for turnout gear and uniforms by Sept 18th. The letter that she gave me did not have a date for the academy or which academy that I would be in, but it did state that the earliest that I could recieve an official written offer of employment with a start date would be Oct 9th.

nctf8e16

09-15-2009, 08:13 PM

So me and KYhunter42 found an apartment literally right across the training academy so we can walk there. A third roommate would be awesome to split rent with for the academy. All together, three beds, two baths, utilities, cable and everything would be $1100 then split three ways. We got a conditional offer for the academy thats supposed to take place in Nov if all goes well. Let us know if you want in, no smokers though. Call me (John) at 919-723-6307 or email me at nctf8e16@aol.com

mkb909

09-15-2009, 11:08 PM

That would certaintly be nice being able to walk home after the academy, my wife and I looked at them when she was going through the academy. Has anyone heard anything else about if this second class is definitely starting in November and if the latest we'll know something is in october?

Jetfan123

09-16-2009, 10:03 AM

Hey Mk, they told me as well that i should know what class i will be in by October 9th. I hope that the classes start on time though. A buddy of mine got his conditional offer back in early August for a september class and he hasnt heard anything yet. i would be shocked if they actually start on time. when were you told you would hear something back? have you tried to contact them at all?

kyhunter42

09-16-2009, 03:12 PM

The letter I recieved said that the earliest I would hear something would be Oct 9th. I was told that this was because after the background checks were done everything had to be approved by the civil service commision and the earliest date that they could get an everything done and an answer back was Oct 9th.

cfish3321

09-16-2009, 09:18 PM

I still have yet to get a call. It is kind of a letdown. Are they all done with the callbacks? I passed the written and KILLED the CPAT and was told everyone that passed would get a call but I now wonder if anyone else has yet to get a call besides myself

mkb909

09-16-2009, 10:20 PM

I got the offer back in august and the letter said the earliest I could hear something by was September 3rd. Since I didn't hear anything back I know I didn't get into the september class, so hopefully I'll get the november class. I know they already have a roster made up for the first class. I haven't contacted anyone but I know I passed the physical so like everyone else I'm just in a holding pattern.

Jetfan123

09-17-2009, 03:42 PM

Hey Fish, It was the end of October when i got my phone call for my first interview last year. So don't throw in the towl yet, you still have some time. they havent sent you a letter saying that your out of it yet. A buddy of mine passed his written and his Cpat and they sent him a letter in August saying his application was not going to be processed any further. if they havnt cut you loose yet then you still have a chance. Just keep after it man, Good Luck.

kyhunter42

09-24-2009, 07:26 PM

mkb,
Do you know if they have checked you character or work references yet?

Does anyone know if the Sept class has started yet?

battlecomedown

09-24-2009, 08:13 PM

i don't know if the september class has started or not. i think there are a few of us given a conditional in august that are in a holding pattern. i know that the waiting game sucks, but it is what it is. we just gotta hang in there, and we should hear something soon.

CFDrecruit81

09-24-2009, 10:21 PM

Hey guys just to let you folks know. I am in class 81 we just started monday and were all hired from the 2009 process. I am one of the lucky ones that made it on first try. We started monday so tomorrow will make it our first full week. I believe the next class (82) is schedualed to start in 7 weeks. hope that helps you guys. Anymore questions ill try to answer them the best i can.

Jetfan123

09-25-2009, 10:46 AM

Awesome, I think were all pretty anxious to start. CFD81... how much time were you given between your final offer of employement and the acutual start date. I would like to work and give a notice to my current employer in a timely manner. How many guys out there have conditional job offers already? I know i have met a couple of you already. KY, i got a called a couple of weeks ago and the background investiagtor told me that they were checking my references. it was about a week after my conditonal offer.

kyhunter42

09-25-2009, 12:04 PM

Jetfan,
Thanks for the info. I've heard Nov 2 is the projected start date of Class 82. I've got a good friend that was in Class number 80, he got about 3 weeks notice before he started the academy. He had the conditional job offer for a couple of months and just had to wait to hear a start date. Things were done a little differnent in the 2008 process, or at least for him. He didn't get fitted for uniforms or gear until he got an official job offer and start date.

nctf8e16

09-26-2009, 08:06 PM

If you dont mind me asking, How many people are in class 81? And congratulations by the way!

mkb909

09-26-2009, 09:07 PM

I'm not in the class obviously, but I know there are 15 people in the class.

CFDrecruit81

09-28-2009, 07:04 PM

Yeah there are 15 people in the class now. We started with 16 but lost one in the first week due to a medical condition. I was given about a 2-3 weeks notice I think from official offer to start date. PS That is going to be one crowded locker room for 2 months with 3 classes in there all together.

Jetfan123

09-30-2009, 11:52 AM

Hope the academy is going well. Thanks for the info. I guess we all should be hearing something before too long. have you guys been doing a lot of P/T your first week?

CFDrecruit81

10-01-2009, 07:51 PM

Oh yeah we PT everyday, rain, sleet, snow or shine. Its been fun so far though i look foward to getting into the good stuff.

mkb909

10-01-2009, 08:54 PM

I had the lucky fortune of meeting one of the guys fresh from class 80 at my dad's station today. Here were some of the things he told me about going through the recruit class... and please don't hold me to this in case they have changed things. He was in the same boat as some us, he had to wait for a couple of months after getting his letter before they assigned him a class.

1. They would run 4-5 miles every 3rd day
2. There are two scheduled live burns and multiple simulations at gaston county college's burn building
3. Crawling through the 18" pipe above ground sucks but can be done (albeit with some pain involved)
4. We will do lots of push-ups and sit-ups
5. Our class seniority at the end is based on our academic score, physical score and final exam score.
6. We will be able to look at a sheet on what openings there are within CFD once we are done with the academy.
7. Hope everyone knows how to polish a boot, because we will be doing it.
8. It's a good idea to pack your lunch so you're not busting butt to get somewhere and back in 1 hour.
9. The runs are military style group marches
10. Class hours are approximately from 7-5, if we don't get our drills done after 5, we're staying later.

FFER55

10-01-2009, 09:56 PM

Maybe someone can give my the info on CFD retirement and pension. I could not pull it up online, almost as if the page has an error. How many years and at what percent? Also do you get health care after you retire and how much (if any) extra is family on your insurance.

Thanks for the info...

kyhunter42

10-01-2009, 11:08 PM

Here is the link again. I just pulled it up to make sure that it works.

http://charlottefireretsys.org/page.php?8.0

(1) The age and Membership Service Credit requirements for service retirement are as follows:
a. Any age and 30 or more years of Membership Service Credit;
b. Age 50 years or older and 25 or more, but less than 30 years of Membership Service Credit

(2) Effective July 1, 1998, upon retirement pursuant to the provisions of Section 15 of this act, a Member shall receive a monthly benefit equal to two and six-
tenths percent (2.6%) of his Final Average Salary multiplied by his Membership Service Credit, Salary limits imposed by section 415 of the Internal Revenue Code, as amended, but not
less than nine hundred two dollars and seventy-five cents ($902.75).

Basically you can retire with 25 years of service if you are 50 years old. The percentage is 2.6% for every year of service. 25 years = 65%, 26 years = 67.6%, and so on. I hope this helps.

mkb909

10-02-2009, 11:22 AM

What I understand from CFD is that we will not have health benefits when we retire, we just missed out on that deadline. They take two highest years of salary and that is what determines your monthly pension, so in effect you're earning less per year, but pulling in more monthly when you retire because at that point you're not paying 13% into your pension anymore.

FFER55

10-02-2009, 06:30 PM

Thanks for all the info. I know I'm a year ahead but how does the budget look next year and is there a set # of academies? I missed this years testing. Will you ever have ambos and transport or run als engines. Is there any extra points for medic or residency? Thanks again.

battlecomedown

10-02-2009, 09:45 PM

I'm not sure about next year's budget. Charlotte's economy has subsided somewhat in the past year, though the city is still growing. As for CFD running its own ambulance service (which is currently provided in Mecklenburg County by MEDIC), in the future, who knows?

As for residency/medic points, Charlotte uses a general applicant pool in its hiring process, which means that if you pass the written and physical, you are in the running for the job at no less or better a position than everyone else that passed the tests. I know that many cities use a ranked list, and award points for veteran's status, residency, etc., but Charlotte is not one of them.

From my experience this year, and I think many of the people who went through it will agree, the Charlotte process is efficiently and professionally run. Most of the questions you could have about it are answered here:

http://www.charmeck.org/Departments/Fire/Recruitment/Frequently+Asked+Questions+%28 FAQ%27s%29.htm

Good Luck.

-Dave

CFDrecruit81

10-05-2009, 06:43 PM

Just to let yall know, everyone says that they are going to run 4 classes off of this list. including my class. They will have two starting in November and then one more in January.

northernlights

10-06-2009, 05:13 PM

Just to let yall know, everyone says that they are going to run 4 classes off of this list. including my class. They will have two starting in November and then one more in January.

wow....wheres that info coming from?

kyhunter42

10-06-2009, 09:12 PM

I heard from a couple of guys that they got conditionals offers this week.

northernlights

10-07-2009, 04:35 PM

I heard from a couple of guys that they got conditionals offers this week.

was it right after thier interviews? or were they called?

kyhunter42

10-07-2009, 05:13 PM

The guy did his background and pannel interview in early Sept. He got the conditional offer Monday.

CFDrecruit81

10-07-2009, 07:20 PM

wow....wheres that info coming from?

All of the staff at the training academy. and the Fire Chief.

Class 82 is supposed to start early November, i cant remember the date they said. Then 83 is supposed to start after Thanksgiving. 84 will start in January. That is what they told us.

Jetfan123

10-08-2009, 12:23 PM

have any of you guys that have conditonal offers with the date of 10/9 hear anything yet? i believe they are going to mail information out to us

nctf8e16

10-09-2009, 09:56 PM

Haven't gotten anything yet. Figure they mailed it yesterday so depending where you live, you could get the letter tomorrow (saturday) or sometime next week.

sbfd48

10-10-2009, 12:32 PM

Have my poly in 2 weeks...How long does it last?

Do they let you add or change an answer on your questionnaire before you are hooked up. I remembered some further information than what i put down.

Anybody have any tips for passing this

mkb909

10-10-2009, 12:44 PM

A look back on this thread will give you more detailed answers on what the polygraph is like, questions that are on it, etc. But for your immediate questions, you should have looked at your questionare during your background interview, but he will ask you if you have remembered something or need to change something. The only way to pass it is to be completely honest with him and on your questionaire, if there's something you think might affect you, bring it up, I did and even though it was completely irrelevant, it's still good to get it out in the open.