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LVFD301

06-04-2009, 10:07 AM

Got a call this morning, advising me they had my application in front of them, but I needed to get my 2007 operations grant closed out....

Working on that now - but it sounds like we have movement.

DFDcar1, Capt4nocfa and Kurt, THANKS for your help!

wfdmilo

06-14-2009, 09:09 PM

Are there any DJ's for FP&S yet?

SLY4420

06-15-2009, 04:47 PM

Nope. :)

travmcgee19

06-25-2009, 11:19 AM

To take the topic slightly astray for a moment or three - has anyone been successful in the past with FP&S grants on a regional level? Looking for some advice.

BC79er_OLDDELETE

06-25-2009, 02:06 PM

Done some like that with regional benefits, since county fire marshal's and associations can apply it's still a single applicant just a larger area affected by the project.

ducky1710

06-29-2009, 02:16 PM

just checking if the fire prevention grant is still going through review i still have not heard anything as of yet ?

BC79er_OLDDELETE

06-30-2009, 02:01 PM

Review is done, they're slowly making notifications on the recommended awards.

7Stones

06-30-2009, 02:35 PM

Thanks for the update BC79er. I was thinking we should hear something soon. Success with the FPS grant this year would be a huge boost for us.

Good luck everyone.

HazmatLT50

07-02-2009, 02:14 PM

Anyone get a DJ for Fire Prevention yet?? I got two apps in with no movement yet... getting antzy

BC79er_OLDDELETE

07-02-2009, 02:20 PM

Those won't start for at least a couple of weeks.

FireCoordinator

07-03-2009, 10:50 AM

We got our 1199a update on FP several weeks ago but still no 10 questions. Just wondering if anyone else has received their 10 q's yet?

jhl81791123

07-03-2009, 02:05 PM

We got our 1199 update and we submitted 8 questions last week.

Looks like we are getting our knox box -KeySecure systems!

FireCoordinator

07-03-2009, 03:06 PM

Well I don't know, Maybe our narrative was just so good that there was no need to ask any questions (LOL). I am just getting impatient, wonder when they will announce the first round?

befferk

07-07-2009, 07:29 AM

We got our 1199 update and we submitted 8 questions last week.

Looks like we are getting our knox box -KeySecure systems!

Would you mind sharing your narrative? We went for that this year, and in case we are unsuccessful, I want to compare to see where ours fell short.

Thanks
Beth
bethkayhart@hotmail.com

Catch22

07-07-2009, 10:36 AM

We got our 1199 update and we submitted 8 questions last week.

Looks like we are getting our knox box -KeySecure systems!

I'd be interested in seeing that one as well, if you don't mind letting a guy have a look.

ncfirfighter

07-07-2009, 06:55 PM

Would also like to see the narrative.

bshaw1202@embarqmail.com

Thanks!

FireCoordinator

07-08-2009, 05:28 PM

Got a call from FEMA today saying that they emailed me the 10qs in June and I did not respond. I explained to her that I never received their email. She was a very nice lady and resent them to me while we were on the phone. I got them answered and sent back. Well actually it was 8 Qs. Now I am getting excited waiting for them to start announcing. I asked if she knew when they would start but she didn't.

wfdmilo

07-10-2009, 01:45 AM

Great news FireCoordinator! I'm glad to hear some action is coming down the pipe.

ducky1710

07-13-2009, 10:36 AM

I was wondering about the Fire prevention and safety grant any word on when the DJ's are coming out ? Thanks

JRCjersey

07-13-2009, 11:30 AM

So does no email/questions/call mean no award?

BC79er_OLDDELETE

07-13-2009, 11:38 AM

They haven't even really started so there won't be any DJs for at least another 4-6 weeks. No news is exactly that at this point. Patience young grasshoppers. :D

Fightin23rd

08-05-2009, 11:29 AM

Bump to the top. Still waiting on word for 2008 awards. Why is this taking SO Long.

BC79er_OLDDELETE

08-05-2009, 12:07 PM

Handling FSC first since it's 2-3 year projects, they want to get people moving on awards so they can go to bid since most areas that's a 60 day process by law at minimum.

jmurphy139

08-05-2009, 12:20 PM

Just got off the phone with Senator Schumer's office, looks like round 1 is coming out this Friday.

BC79er_OLDDELETE

08-05-2009, 12:33 PM

Sweet. Wonder if more 1199As are going to flow soon. Not much chatter from people with them around here, usually we get a good forum crowd of folks pending.

sandy3810

08-05-2009, 02:58 PM

Just got call from Congressman Steve Latourette's office. We will be announced on first round on Friday. $73,055 for dual function smoke detectors and CO detectors (battery and electric)
WhooHoo; we are happy dancing here.

LVFD301

08-07-2009, 01:10 AM

They are on the FP&S web page now. There we are! 6k for a sign project.

k3twpfire

08-07-2009, 01:34 AM

Doesn't look like much more need for 1199As... 216 awards @ $34 million

LVFD301

08-07-2009, 02:20 AM

The first part of the story says 149 grants announced, yet the
award list says 216. State breakdown says 6 in Missouri, yet the
award list only says 3.

Now, I know I am not the smartest guy around (Depending on my killer good looks and not my brains) but those figures don't add up.

Fightin23rd

08-07-2009, 08:40 AM

Is that all there is going to be??

FireCoordinator

08-07-2009, 08:45 AM

Anyone have any emails yet. I see our name on the awards list but have not received an email nor has it been updated in the drop down box. Maybe they have not had time to get them all updated yet. Well at least they got the awards list out. Time to go shopping.

sandy3810

08-07-2009, 09:07 AM

We haven't gotten our award package yet either, or email. But I am shopping! Congrats to all who got announced. I have really appreciated all the information and support from this fine group of grant writers. Thanks to all for your continued help.

jhl81791123

08-07-2009, 08:56 PM

Hello from Waterford, Michigan. We just got our award announcment today. $4840 for Keysecure boxes for each truck. We have needed this project for a long, long time. The Fire Marshal will be very pleased.

I will get that narrative to those that asked during my shift tomorrow.

Not to brag, but that's 4 for us in the last 10 months. I had a 2 year dry spell for 2006 and 2007. Kurt Bradley - you have kept encouraging me to keep on keepin on. That's what I have done! Thank you Kurt!

Lt. John Lyman
WTFD

SLY4420

08-07-2009, 09:43 PM

Looks like someone made a boo-boo on the awards site and released the full award list this morning. It has been corrected, (now only showing $16M worth of awards) so those of you that showed up this morning aren't official awardees if you don't have your Award Notification in the portal. Make sure you don't make purchases until you have that! :)

SLY4420

08-07-2009, 09:52 PM

I see our name on the awards list but have not received an email nor has it been updated in the drop down box.

Just was curious about this...you don't have an 1199A posting for the award yet?

And like I said, use caution shopping until you get that award notification.

Oh, and did anyone save that list from this morning? ;)

LVFD301

08-08-2009, 12:04 AM

Just was curious about this...you don't have an 1199A posting for the award yet?

And like I said, use caution shopping until you get that award notification.

Oh, and did anyone save that list from this morning? ;)

Every list I saw this morning that actually listed names was the
correct list with 149 agencies.

The award list and the excel spreadsheet at just after midnight only
showed the 149 departments.

When you click on state breakdown, there it shows 216 and 34,014K awarded. Still does right now.

LVFD301

08-08-2009, 12:04 AM

LVFD301

08-08-2009, 01:07 AM

Late night updates hit, and there is my dropdown and award email! Yipeee!

State breakdown still shows 216!

wtfd2940

08-08-2009, 02:38 AM

Every list I saw this morning that actually listed names was the
correct list with 149 agencies.

The award list and the excel spreadsheet at just after midnight only
showed the 149 departments.

When you click on state breakdown, there it shows 216 and 34,014K awarded. Still does right now.

The 216 and 34,014k numbers are the 2007 numbers not the 2008 numbers. They haven't updated it to reflect the 2008 numbers yet.

LVFD301

08-08-2009, 05:24 PM

The 216 and 34,014k numbers are the 2007 numbers not the 2008 numbers. They haven't updated it to reflect the 2008 numbers yet.

Yep. Thats the deal. Funny how they are labeled 2008, but they are the identical figures to 2007, and everything else except the year is the same
as the 2007 page.

Thanks.

jhl81791123

08-08-2009, 05:53 PM

I'd be interested in seeing that one as well, if you don't mind letting a guy have a look.

Catch, give me an email so I can send that.

mwtetreault

09-14-2009, 09:02 AM

Just got my Dear John on 2008 FP&S. Made it to peers though.
Mark

Limeforever

09-14-2009, 09:31 AM

Must have just came out, I checked at 0800 this morning, and nothing there, and just rechecked and found mine as well. Same thing made it to peer, and needed to explain in greater detail how we were gonna measure the effectiveness of the program, and identify measurable goals. Oh well, just have to rehash and apply again in a few weeks.

PRRESCUE

09-14-2009, 10:39 AM

Just got my Dear John on 2008 FP&S. Made it to peers though.
Mark

We got it too.

BC79er_OLDDELETE

09-14-2009, 10:42 AM

so far every denial has had the same wording. not sure they put the same scrutiny to the DJs this time around. progress is nice but a little info would be a nice thing.

hinesfire

09-14-2009, 10:45 AM

Also received my FP&S DJ email this morning 0523 hrs. If i'm not mistaken all FP&S apps go to peer.
In my state, only 2% of the applicants were awarded.

shinds

09-14-2009, 10:56 AM

Got my FP&S DJ also, as I was reading it got the e-mail from AFG Program Office comcerning the application period for the 2009 program. What a coincidence...I think

jasnic0510

09-14-2009, 11:14 AM

My DJ stated the need for more detail in the evaluation of the grant and the long term affects. My evaluation consisted of a detailed three stage evaluation program. Very in depth! Also had a great ending with long term effects and how the program will maintain itself in the future. Very odd!!!!

BC79er_OLDDELETE

09-14-2009, 11:39 AM

See my above post jasnic, they all say the same thing regardless of the detail in the app. Probably like yours puts a couple of the funded ones I've seen to shame. C'est la vie.

mmcneill

09-14-2009, 12:16 PM

I'll add our "got mine today also" to the thread.:mad:

hotwire

09-15-2009, 08:46 AM

OK! I have tried and tried to get a fire prevention grant. If anyone has a narrative that has received a grant and they will share it. I sure will take it! Thanks!!!

LVFD301

09-15-2009, 10:23 AM

OK! I have tried and tried to get a fire prevention grant. If anyone has a narrative that has received a grant and they will share it. I sure will take it! Thanks!!!

Uh, narrative for what?

hotwire

09-15-2009, 11:56 AM

I was looking for a narrative for a smoke house trailer.

Fortsutphen

09-17-2009, 04:36 PM

OK! I have tried and tried to get a fire prevention grant. If anyone has a narrative that has received a grant and they will share it. I sure will take it! Thanks!!!

While I have never tried a FPS safety grant, I'm gonna give s hot this year. Yea, I know nothing like waiting to the last minute but what the hay. So if anyone has anything they would to share a Knox Box Program, House Numbering Signs, Prevention Programs for children and the elderly, or for that matter anything. Please send to:

mmpwfireco@mmpw.comcastbiz.net

Thanks,

Dusty

wtfd2940

09-19-2009, 01:12 PM

I have tried to get a fire extinguisher prop for the last two years and both times fell short. The first time it was part of a CO detector program and was pulled out, with the detector program awarded. The second time I reworked it as a stand alone project.....no luck. I know props seem to be an uphill battle, but I think I am going to try again. My thought was to add some 2.5 lb ABC extinguishers for residents into the program to give to residents who are trained. Has anyone ever received funding for fire extinguishers. I have aleady been successful with smoke detectors, CO detectors, and several other fire prevention items. Was just curious because I believe home fire extinguishers can be just as beneficial in trained hands.

Or should I just give my department an nice new name.....ya know like some big organization and just ask for a million dollars!! On a side note I am getting frustrated with this program and its perceived objectives. Part of me thinks it is easier for them to give a million to one organization than 10 grand to 100.....much less administrative work.

islandfire03

09-19-2009, 07:01 PM

WTFD : We have tried three times for a fire extinguisher training system along with us providing extinguishers to the elderly and the boating population as a targeted population. We have had several marine fires with loss of fishing vessels and several cases where elderly folks had stove fires that might have seen less damage if they had extinguishers and been trained to use them.
We have been DJ'd 3 times
Our total request was under 20k and the reasoning given was the long term measurability of success & positive outcomes of the program.
I don't know how to crack this grant to make it a winner.

BC79er_OLDDELETE

09-19-2009, 07:22 PM

They're very specific about the extinguisher projects on how they have to be written and who for. Don't hit it and it's out, and it's very easy to stray without realizing it.

wtfd2940

09-19-2009, 08:57 PM

I would guess that nobody knows where that target is exactly. I know it is a little tricky and I have always tried to thread that needle, but apparently with no success. You have to keep it to adult high risk populations so how far could you stray? Should those with disabilities be trained in extinguisher use? Do I hit the adult high school population or is it too close for comfort? If they are looking for a specific group they should tell you, and if you have a need in that group and have a large population in that group then go for it.

BC79er_OLDDELETE

09-19-2009, 10:23 PM

Why do you have to limit your application to high-risk groups? Don't remember reading that in the guidelines....;)

Not2L84U2

09-19-2009, 10:36 PM

Anybody have any tips for an inspection program? Going after mobile data collection device as well as software to use with our existing program. Would it help or hurt to mention that we have not had any incidents involving commercial structures in over 5 years since our current program has been in place? The problem with the current program is it is highly time consuming and hard to get people to volunteer to help with it. That coupled with the hard copies of the pre-plans performed during the inspection are in the station in a drawer and not on the rigs. Any input from someone with experience in this program area would be appreciated.

timg71

09-20-2009, 11:04 AM

looking for someone to share a narrative on an adult (elderly) fire prevention education program. Thanks. please send too info@orleansfirerescue.com

Catch22

09-21-2009, 10:55 AM

JRCjersey

09-22-2009, 04:40 PM

Looking for a extinguisher narrative that was awared so I can revise my 2008 and resubmit.
Thanks,
-JRC
carty16@gmail.com

utfd704

09-23-2009, 09:11 PM

I was kicking around the same thing. We're starting to see a bit of a rise in kitchen fires the senior citizen housing, and in the homes of the elderly. Just gotta figure out how to go about it.

It's between that or a Knox Box program right now.

Not sure on the how many units question that comes to mind, but there are some newer small hod systems that I have seen introduced that may address your problem, contact me directly if u wish.

utfd704

09-23-2009, 09:17 PM

To anyone building a station or remodelling, I have contacts with a company that provides both design as well as third party inspection services for alarm, sprinkler and security/cctv/ access. There has been a growth of these third party services for both budgetary requirements as well as a libability, fox watching the hen house mentality, if interesed please contact me directly.

hoserbt

09-28-2009, 03:11 PM

I am thinking of replacing smoke detectors and installing exit signs in our older business that are grandfathered from the new standards. If anyone can share a narrative so that I can see the layout and understand the requirments.

Any samples would be great.

Thanks

Bryan

btello@wauwatosa.net

SWFD22

09-28-2009, 04:20 PM

WTFD : We have tried three times for a fire extinguisher training system along with us providing extinguishers to the elderly and the boating population as a targeted population.

That's not encouraging. I did not submit a grant app for last year's program, but the year before I though I had a winner to continue a program that we have been funding to post "Meeting Place" signs at our Condo complexes for each building. That way when we get there the occupants have not scattered into the parking lot intermingled with the crowd. Funds were for the signs, and a small budget for the Saturday program orientation that we put on for the comples. It was only $10K for three complexes.

For this year I was going to put in for an extinguisher program to run education at the Assisted Living and Nursing Homes for the staff.

I'll have to check the past awards to see if an extinguisher program has ever been awarded.

Brian

BC79er_OLDDELETE

09-28-2009, 04:28 PM

Plenty have been funded for extinguisher trainers. They just won't fund handing out extinguishers since they're required in all high occupancy residencies, over the road trucks, and on marine vessels by the Coast Guard. Low income residents maybe, but in most cases won't do it. Liability of providing something fight fire versus just educating how if they choose to purchase their own is another potential issue there.

volff1170

09-29-2009, 05:11 AM

Ok, here are some of my ideas for my first fire prevention and safety grant... Please let me know if these are good or bad ideas.

A fire extinguisher simulator
Reflective address signs
smoke detectors
educational materials or brochures

Any other ideas out there?

Has anyone considered or tried a reverse 911 service or system... or does that not apply?

wtfd2940

10-01-2009, 02:42 PM

Looking for a extinguisher narrative that was awared so I can revise my 2008 and resubmit.
Thanks,
-JRC
carty16@gmail.com

I am also looking for a fire extinguisher trainer prop narrative that was actually awarded. Tried two other times and can't seem to figure out what part I am missing. If anyone has been successful my email is below.

RsnFyr77@comcast.net

jandrewsmith

10-05-2009, 04:01 PM

Looking for an example FP&S grant for smoke detector or Knox boxes. Any help would be helpful.

Thanks

Andy Smith
jandrewsmith@ymail.com

RES81CUE

10-13-2009, 03:08 PM

I am looking on an awarded narrative for a fire safety trailer and if anyone has a awarded fire extinguisher training prop award similar to the bullex type products.

ktb9780

10-17-2009, 09:12 AM

I am looking on an awarded narrative for a fire safety trailer and if anyone has a awarded fire extinguisher training prop award similar to the bullex type products.

I have a recent one that incorporates and addresses all the things that FPS has been fussing about in granting funding for these things. Give me a shout offline!;)