It's Still Pres. Bush's Fault, Right?

[GeorgeWendtCFI]

Yeah. Right.

U.S. unemployment rate hits 9.8 percent in September, as 263K jobs are lost
By The Associated Press
October 02, 2009, 8:43AM
WASHINGTON -- The U.S. unemployment rate rose to 9.8 percent in September as employers cut far more jobs than expected, evidence that the longest recession since the 1930s is still inflicting widespread pain.

APIn this Sept. 25 photo, Melvin Winston fills an out application for positions at a new bar and restaurant in Detroit.The Labor Department said today the economy lost a net total of 263,000 jobs last month, up from a downwardly revised 201,000 in August. That's above Wall Street economists' expectations of 180,000 job losses, according to a survey by Thomson Reuters.

The unemployment rate rose from 9.7 percent in August, matching expectations.

If laid-off workers who have settled for part-time work or have given up looking for new jobs are included, the unemployment rate rose to 17 percent, the highest on records dating from 1994.

More than a half-million unemployed people gave up looking for work last month. Had they continued searching, the official jobless rate would have been higher.

All told, 15.1 million Americans are now out of work, the department said. And more than 7.1 million jobs have been eliminated since the recession began in December 2007.

Many analysts expect the economy grew at a healthy clip in the July-September quarter, technically ending the recession, but few think the recovery will be strong enough to lower the jobless rate. Most economists expect the rate to top 10 percent and keep climbing.

The economy has received a boost from the Cash for Clunkers auto rebate program and other government stimulus efforts, but many economists believe that growth will slow in the current quarter and early next year as the impact of those programs fade.

Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke said Thursday that even if the economy were to grow at a 3 percent pace in the coming quarters, it would not be enough to quickly drive down the unemployment rate. Bernanke said the rate is likely to remain above 9 percent through the end of 2010.

Persistently high unemployment could weaken the recovery as consumers, concerned about their jobs and incomes, restrain spending. Consumer spending accounts for about 70 percent of the nation's economy.

Hourly earnings rose by a penny last month, while weekly wages fell $1.54 to $616.11.

The average hourly work week fell back to a record low of 33 in September, the department said. That figure is important because economists are looking for companies to add more hours for current workers before they hire new ones.

[BULL321]

It must be Pres. Bush's fault. I mean the the new messiah on earth can not make a mistake. Even if he wants to spend all that money to fly to Europe so he and his wife can lobby for one city and leave all the rest of the counties problems on the back burner, so be it. The anointed one knows what is best. Well least he did not apologize for how over bearing the USA has been in the past for once. He just had his hat in hand and begged. Now that is presidential and that is change we can believe in.

Oh by the way, according to Fox News. If you count all the people who have lost their jobs and have only been able to obtain a part-time job the unemployment rate is at or around 19 %.:o The stock market is loving these new and improved numbers.

Stay Safe

Bull

[Mzanghetti]

It must be Pres. Bush's fault. I mean the the new messiah on earth can not make a mistake. Even if he wants to spend all that money to fly to Europe so he and his wife can lobby for one city
Bull

You mean they went to lobby for Rio De Janerio??? :)

[BULL321]

You mean they went to lobby for Rio De Janerio??? :)

Have you notice that everything that Mr. Obama touches turns to sh*t. We are so screwed!

Stay Safe
Bull

[FireMedic049]

Have you notice that everything that Mr. Obama touches turns to sh*t. We are so screwed!

Stay Safe
Bull

Did you notice that things were already "sh*t" before he took office?

[BULL321]

Oh yea things were already sh*tty, but instead of flushing the toilet, Mr. Obama just keeps on piling it on, all the while blaming the other guy for his problems that he said he was going to fix. Oh heads up, better put on your rubbers boots on, the toilet is getting ready to overflow.

Stay Safe
Bull

[ehs7554]

Oh yea things were already sh*tty, but instead of flushing the toilet, Mr. Obama just keeps on piling it on, all the while blaming the other guy for his problems that he said he was going to fix. Oh heads up, better put on your rubbers boots on, the toilet is getting ready to overflow.

Stay Safe
Bull

I couldn't agree with you more. At this rate we will need to go back to 3/4 boots!

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[MarcusKspn]

(CNN) -- Whenever President Obama has traveled overseas and offered pointed and direct assessments of the United States, some of them critical, Republicans have ripped him for criticizing America, saying a president should always defend the United States.

So I want to hear the explanation by these so-called patriots of their giddy behavior over the United States losing the 2016 Olympic Games.

Yes, the United States. The bid that was rejected Friday by the International Olympic Committee was not a Chicago, Illinois, bid. It was the official bid submitted by the United States Olympic Committee and was representative of the nation. Tokyo's bid was that of Japan; Madrid's was that of Spain; and Rio de Janeiro's was that of Brazil.

Republicans want to spin the decision as a massive loss by President Obama and the Democrats who have always controlled Chicago politics.

"Hahahahaha," wrote Erick Erickson on the conservative "RedState" blog, "I thought the world would love us more now that Bush was gone."

What the critics don't see is that Obama's loss on the Olympics is America's loss. Any red-blooded American who loves to see the American flag raised and the national anthem played when one of our own wins a gold medal should blast the Republicans' giddiness over the loss.

I can recall crying along with millions of Americans when our hockey team beat the Russians and won the hockey gold in 1980. Where were those games? Lake Placid, New York. Euphoria spread all across the nation, not only because we beat the mighty Russians, but also because it took place on American soil.

When Carl Lewis and Mary Lou Retton dominated the 1984 Olympic Games, we all beamed with pride because they represented the United States on American soil in Los Angeles, California.

And when Michael Johnson stormed around the track to obliterate the world record in the 200-meter dash (since broken by Jamaica's Usain Bolt), we relished the win as he took a victory lap around the stadium in Atlanta, Georgia.

Americans love home field advantage, and we always desire to show the rest of the world what we are made of.

I don't care if Republicans want to rip President Obama over going to Copenhagen, Denmark, to pitch for the games. This isn't about politics. It's not about ideology. This is about America. OUR pride. Our chance to shine. Our loss of the games.

So, to all the critics happy about us losing the 2016 games, turn in your flag lapel pins and stop boasting of being so patriotic. When an American city loses, like New York did in the the last go-round, we all lose. And all you critics are on the same level as the America haters all across the world.

You should be shouted down for not backing your own country. The next time any of you bang out a press release about "Buy American" or "Support our troops," remember this moment when your cynical, callous and small-minded brains happily rejoiced when America lost the 2016 Olympic Games.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Roland Martin.

[neiowa]

For a start, the Olympics in at least recent versions have been a black hole for public expenditures and infested with corruption. Take that to a city that owns President Obama (the poster child for public spending) and is in the top 5 for public corruption. Who would not celebrate the "loss" of the 2016 Olympics in Chicago? Likely save the US taxpayer $20B.

The gaggle of Chicago thugs currently infesting DC will find another way to line their pockets during their last 39months. The Obama library and ribs joint should be good for at least $5B.

[ScareCrow57]

Marcus my friend you left something out concerning that editorial

By Roland S. Martin
CNN Political Analyst

Editor's note: A nationally syndicated columnist, Roland S. Martin is the author of the forthcoming book, "The First: President Barack Obama's Road to the White House as originally reported by Roland S. Martin" and of two other books, "Listening to the Spirit Within: 50 Perspectives on Faith" and "Speak, Brother! A Black Man's View of America." Visit his Web site for more information.

Take the entire editorial with a grain of salt. This man has defended everything and anything Obama does. In my mind he lacks objectivity.

As for the Olympic boon-doogle, I said up front Obama had his priorities misplaced. I don't recall any previous president going to the IOC to try to get the Olympics in their home town. And he did this while the country is falling apart. Iran and Korea are building Nukes. He was handed a pretty stable situation in Afghanistan, that is deteriorating. His ill advised expansion of social medicine is on life support. His stimulus is not stimulating. Explain this while I think of it. How come it took until now to release $5 billion for medical research grants? To continue, his appointees seem to have more legal problems that the crooks locked up in the county jail. Honestly, he has his priorities all screwed up and isn't taking care of business.

And really, the Olympics in Chicago. I believe the athletes would be afraid for their lives. They need to clean that town up. To much corruption, kids beating kids to death, it isn't a model US city.

[ScareCrow57]

For a start, the Olympics in at least recent versions have been a black hole for public expenditures and infested with corruption. Take that to a city that owns President Obama (the poster child for public spending) and is in the top 5 for public corruption. Who would not celebrate the "loss" of the 2016 Olympics in Chicago? Likely save the US taxpayer $20B.

The gaggle of Chicago thugs currently infesting DC will find another way to line their pockets during their last 39months. The Obama library and ribs joint should be good for at least $5B.

The Olympics generate a lot of cash as well. However, there were held in LA in 1984, why not push to reuse those facilities? You are correct in one thing. They would be facilities for the athletes and officials and then turn it into public housing. A nice freebie for the city at the expense of the nation.

[DaSharkie]

Remember, Mr. Obama and Mr. Biden were clamoring that unless this ridiculous boondoggle known as the stimulus was passed unemployment would go above 8%. Ought to hit 10% in the next couple of months.

Meanwhile Cars for Clunkers obliterated auto sales last month while wasting $2,000,000,000. Congress wants to do the same thing for appliances now too. The Dems have added nearly $2,000,000,000,000 in deficit and debt in less than 8 months in office as POTUS.

Economists keep saying that we are coming out of a recession, and while I understand that jobless claims are one of the last indicators of this, unemployment is climbing, companies are closing, and now GM is going to kill another 13,000 jobs because they let the union and corporate morons dictate how they should run Saturn.......

[GeorgeWendtCFI]

Did you notice that things were already "sh*t" before he took office?

Remember this?

CHANGE!

What happened? Wait. I know. He couldn't (and won't) deliver the mail.

[GeorgeWendtCFI]

(CNN) -- Whenever President Obama has traveled overseas and offered pointed and direct assessments of the United States, some of them critical, Republicans have ripped him for criticizing America, saying a president should always defend the United States.

So I want to hear the explanation by these so-called patriots of their giddy behavior over the United States losing the 2016 Olympic Games.

Yes, the United States. The bid that was rejected Friday by the International Olympic Committee was not a Chicago, Illinois, bid. It was the official bid submitted by the United States Olympic Committee and was representative of the nation. Tokyo's bid was that of Japan; Madrid's was that of Spain; and Rio de Janeiro's was that of Brazil.

Republicans want to spin the decision as a massive loss by President Obama and the Democrats who have always controlled Chicago politics.

"Hahahahaha," wrote Erick Erickson on the conservative "RedState" blog, "I thought the world would love us more now that Bush was gone."

What the critics don't see is that Obama's loss on the Olympics is America's loss. Any red-blooded American who loves to see the American flag raised and the national anthem played when one of our own wins a gold medal should blast the Republicans' giddiness over the loss.

I can recall crying along with millions of Americans when our hockey team beat the Russians and won the hockey gold in 1980. Where were those games? Lake Placid, New York. Euphoria spread all across the nation, not only because we beat the mighty Russians, but also because it took place on American soil.

When Carl Lewis and Mary Lou Retton dominated the 1984 Olympic Games, we all beamed with pride because they represented the United States on American soil in Los Angeles, California.

And when Michael Johnson stormed around the track to obliterate the world record in the 200-meter dash (since broken by Jamaica's Usain Bolt), we relished the win as he took a victory lap around the stadium in Atlanta, Georgia.

Americans love home field advantage, and we always desire to show the rest of the world what we are made of.

I don't care if Republicans want to rip President Obama over going to Copenhagen, Denmark, to pitch for the games. This isn't about politics. It's not about ideology. This is about America. OUR pride. Our chance to shine. Our loss of the games.

So, to all the critics happy about us losing the 2016 games, turn in your flag lapel pins and stop boasting of being so patriotic. When an American city loses, like New York did in the the last go-round, we all lose. And all you critics are on the same level as the America haters all across the world.

You should be shouted down for not backing your own country. The next time any of you bang out a press release about "Buy American" or "Support our troops," remember this moment when your cynical, callous and small-minded brains happily rejoiced when America lost the 2016 Olympic Games.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Roland Martin.

Roland Martin is delusional.

[GeorgeWendtCFI]

For a start, the Olympics in at least recent versions have been a black hole for public expenditures and infested with corruption. Take that to a city that owns President Obama (the poster child for public spending) and is in the top 5 for public corruption. Who would not celebrate the "loss" of the 2016 Olympics in Chicago? Likely save the US taxpayer $20B.

The gaggle of Chicago thugs currently infesting DC will find another way to line their pockets during their last 39months. The Obama library and ribs joint should be good for at least $5B.

Imagine the $$$$$$ he could have funneled to ACORN if the Olympics were in Chicago?

[MarcusKspn]

Imagine the $$$$$$ he could have funneled to ACORN if the Olympics were in Chicago?

So Obama is pretty much exactly like Bush, and the Dems and Reps have the same talking points:

Obama is not a citizen vs. Bush had the SCOTUS steal the election

Obama is the money man for ACORN vs. Bush was the money man for Haliburton

I'm sure there will be more of these in the future.

[ScareCrow57]

So Obama is pretty much exactly like Bush, and the Dems and Reps have the same talking points:

Obama is not a citizen vs. Bush had the SCOTUS steal the election

Obama is the money man for ACORN vs. Bush was the money man for Haliburton

I'm sure there will be more of these in the future.

You got it, the new messiah is no better than the last one.

[MarcusKspn]

You got it, the new messiah is no better than the last one.

I didn't say that at all.

Actually what I said that Reps are no better than dems and vice versa. It is much more of a judgment of the electorate that the elected.

[GeorgeWendtCFI]

Now the Olympics are Pres. Bush's fault.

Chicago torpedoed by anti-U.S. sentiment?

October 3, 2009
BY ABDON M. PALLASCH Political Reporter apallasch@suntimes.com
Some Chicago officials say anti-American resentment likely played a role in Chicago's Olympic bid dying in the first round Friday.

President Obama could not undo in one year the resentment against America that President Bush and others built up for years, they said.

"There must be" resentment against America, the Rev. Jesse Jackson said, near the stage where he had hoped to give a victory speech in Daley Center Plaza. "The way we [refused to sign] the Kyoto Treaty, we misled the world into Iraq. The world had a very bad taste in its mouth about us. But there was such a turnaround after last November. The world now feels better about America and about Americans. That's why I thought the president's going was the deal-maker."

State Rep. Susana Mendoza (D-Chicago) said she saw firsthand the resentment against America five years ago when she was in Rio de Janeiro. "I feel in my gut that this vote today was political and mean-spirited," she said.

"I travel a lot. ... I thought we had really turned a corner with the election of President Obama. People are so much more welcoming of Americans now. But this isn't the people of those countries. This is the leaders still living with outdated impressions of Americans."

U.S. Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-Ill.) said she was approached by a consul general at the plaza as they waited for word Friday. "He said ... he was hearing that there wasn't enough time for Barack Obama to dispel the old image. ... But I don't know if that's it."

Presidential press secretary Robert Gibbs rejected the notion that the vote was influenced by the United States' standing: "No, I think you saw both at the U.N. General Assembly, you saw at the G20 last week ... I think virtually every measure of our standing in the world is different than it was just this time last year. So I don't read too much of that into this."

[neiowa]

Obama is the money man for ACORN vs. Bush was the money man for Haliburton


You lefties just can't keep your stories straight. Haliburton was Dick Cheney.

Haliburton would be a productive business that actually DOES things of economic value. Employing of thousands of individuals who use their talents productively and who are paid market wages for their labor. Impossible to find a bigger contrast to that than ACORN.

[MarcusKspn]

You lefties just can't keep your stories straight. Haliburton was Dick Cheney.

Haliburton would be a productive business that actually DOES things of economic value. Employing of thousands of individuals who use their talents productively and who are paid market wages for their labor. Impossible to find a bigger contrast to that than ACORN.

When was the last time we started a war for ACORN?

There are just as many crazy theories about the old administration than the current one.

[GeorgeWendtCFI]

When was the last time we started a war for Haliburton? Proof please, not inuendo and conspiracy theories.

[MarcusKspn]

When was the last time we started a war for Haliburton? Proof please, not inuendo and conspiracy theories.

Then I shoot the ball back into your court and ask where your proof is that ACORN got money because of Obama?

Haliburton got a crapload of defense contracts while Bush was in office.

ACORN got grants while Obama is in office.

Haliburton and other oil/energy cooperations have long ties to Bush/Cheney.

ACORN has long ties to Obama.

I am not insisting that we invated Iraq for the purpose of getting their oil. My point is that when Bush was in office the libs kept on making that argument, including on this board. Now that Obama is in office, the conservatives are making the argument that Obama is paying off ACORN.

My point is not that either side is right, my point is that both sides are embracing the exact same stupid arguments. And thats what they are, arguments, conspiracy theories, pulling straws from thin air.

[GeorgeWendtCFI]

Then I shoot the ball back into your court and ask where your proof is that ACORN got money because of Obama?

Haliburton got a crapload of defense contracts while Bush was in office.

ACORN got grants while Obama is in office.

Haliburton and other oil/energy cooperations have long ties to Bush/Cheney.

ACORN has long ties to Obama.

I am not insisting that we invated Iraq for the purpose of getting their oil. My point is that when Bush was in office the libs kept on making that argument, including on this board. Now that Obama is in office, the conservatives are making the argument that Obama is paying off ACORN.

My point is not that either side is right, my point is that both sides are embracing the exact same stupid arguments. And thats what they are, arguments, conspiracy theories, pulling straws from thin air.

You can't possibly be serious about this.

[MarcusKspn]

You can't possibly be serious about this.

I just want to make sure you understand that I think that both scenarios are crap. They are the product of conspiracy nuts. Both of them.

The circumstancial evidence that Bush used to have a connection to energy companies and that those energy companies benefited from the war in Iraq is just as much crap as the circumstantial evidence that Obama used to work for ACORN and now ACORN got some grant money.

If you truly belief that the case for the ACORN/Obama connection is any more solid than the case for the Haliburton/Bush connection then be my guest. I will stick to my theory that both camps are wrong here.

Once again, my case is not that both are right. My case is that your comments that Obama is in the pocket for ACORN is just as crazy as the case for Bush being in the pocket for Haliburton.

[GeorgeWendtCFI]

There are documented, substantiated connections between Pres. Obama and ACORN that you cannot deny.

When Acorn gets a $967K fire prevention grant, which is also completely documented, the circumstantial evidence is overwhelming. That is but one documented fact. Think about that for a minute-$967,000. To a non-fire service organization. The only possible explanation is interference from above.

I am not a conspiracy theorist. I deal in facts.

I realize what you are trying to do. The problem is you are dealing with apples and oranges.

[MarcusKspn]

There are documented, substantiated connections between Pres. Obama and ACORN that you cannot deny.

There are documented, sunstantiated connections between Pres. Bush and Haliburton that you cannot deny.

When Acorn gets a $967K fire prevention grant, which is also completely documented, the circumstantial evidence is overwhelming. That is but one documented fact. Think about that for a minute-$967,000. To a non-fire service organization. The only possible explanation is interference from above.

When Haliburton gets big chunks of non-bid government contracts, which is also completely documented, the circumstantial evidence is overwhelming. That is but one documented fact. thank about that for a minute. How many companies are in the oil business, and the one that has strong connections to the administration gets the contracts. The only possible explanation is interference from above.

I am not a conspiracy theorist. I deal in facts.

You are dealing in the same facts as the "Iraq/Haliburton" crowd.

I realize what you are trying to do. The problem is you are dealing with apples and oranges.

George, unless you have a paper in your hand where it says :Collect votes for me and I will slide you some money" You are dealing in theories.

If you don't see that these two situations are exactly alike, then you are as driven by blind ideology as you always accuse the liberals to be.

[GeorgeWendtCFI]

George, unless you have a paper in your hand where it says :Collect votes for me and I will slide you some money" You are dealing in theories.

If you don't see that these two situations are exactly alike, then you are as driven by blind ideology as you always accuse the liberals to be.

You are demonstrating zero grasp or understanding of these two subjects. I truly thought that you were smarter than this.

I'm done.

[ScareCrow57]

Now the Olympics are Pres. Bush's fault.

Un F***ing believable. BTW. I saw first hand the resentment against America in 1976-1978 while stationed in Germany. These dumbazz premadonnas need to get their heads out of the clouds.

[ScareCrow57]

I just want to make sure you understand that I think that both scenarios are crap. They are the product of conspiracy nuts. Both of them.

The circumstancial evidence that Bush used to have a connection to energy companies and that those energy companies benefited from the war in Iraq is just as much crap as the circumstantial evidence that Obama used to work for ACORN and now ACORN got some grant money.

If you truly belief that the case for the ACORN/Obama connection is any more solid than the case for the Haliburton/Bush connection then be my guest. I will stick to my theory that both camps are wrong here.

Once again, my case is not that both are right. My case is that your comments that Obama is in the pocket for ACORN is just as crazy as the case for Bush being in the pocket for Haliburton.

LMAO!! :D You said nuts and ACORN. ACORNS are nuts..... :D

But you are correct, both sides are dumb. War for oil...Yea right. As for ACRON, anyone paying attention will notice they have lost a ton of funding recently.

[ScareCrow57]

George, unless you have a paper in your hand where it says :Collect votes for me and I will slide you some money" You are dealing in theories.

If you don't see that these two situations are exactly alike, then you are as driven by blind ideology as you always accuse the liberals to be.

Not for nothing that happens all the time. Get me votes I get you a political appointment.

[MarcusKspn]

Not for nothing that happens all the time. Get me votes I get you a political appointment.

Or: Give me donations, and I'll give you contracts.

Politics in action.

[BryanLoader]

Marcus my friend you left something out concerning that editorial

By Roland S. Martin
CNN Political Analyst

Editor's note: A nationally syndicated columnist, Roland S. Martin is the author of the forthcoming book, "The First: President Barack Obama's Road to the White House as originally reported by Roland S. Martin" and of two other books, "Listening to the Spirit Within: 50 Perspectives on Faith" and "Speak, Brother! A Black Man's View of America." Visit his Web site for more information.

Take the entire editorial with a grain of salt. This man has defended everything and anything Obama does. In my mind he lacks objectivity.

As for the Olympic boon-doogle, I said up front Obama had his priorities misplaced. I don't recall any previous president going to the IOC to try to get the Olympics in their home town. And he did this while the country is falling apart. Iran and Korea are building Nukes. He was handed a pretty stable situation in Afghanistan, that is deteriorating. His ill advised expansion of social medicine is on life support. His stimulus is not stimulating. Explain this while I think of it. How come it took until now to release $5 billion for medical research grants? To continue, his appointees seem to have more legal problems that the crooks locked up in the county jail. Honestly, he has his priorities all screwed up and isn't taking care of business.

And really, the Olympics in Chicago. I believe the athletes would be afraid for their lives. They need to clean that town up. To much corruption, kids beating kids to death, it isn't a model US city.

Actually, I doubt very much that crime was anything that the IOC was worried about regards Chicago. There are places in Rio where even the army won't go, never mind the police. They are called FAVELAS
I think the deciding factor was simply that South America had never hosted the games before. Madrid probably had the best facilities and presentation but Europe and North America have hosted the games fairly recently.

[DaSharkie]

I think the deciding factor was simply that South America had never hosted the games before. Madrid probably had the best facilities and presentation but Europe and North America have hosted the games fairly recently.

I agree. Why should the United States or Europe be the only ones to host the Olympics? Asia just recently started to get into the act, and there is no reason why South America should not have a chance.

Ratings for the Olympics have been consistently decreasing which means less revenue from the networks as well.

And the Olympics are a money loser for the host city and host nation. Especially given the costs of construction in the U.S. and the cost of security enhancements in the new modern era - makes Munich seem like a walk in the park.

Then there is Chicago itself. Aside from my personal dislike of cities, Chicago is corrupt. Mayor Daley even told the people of Chicago tha tthey would not be on the hook for cost overruns, but then tells the IOC that costs would be covered. So if the city won't pick up the costs, then who will? Likely the Feds would have which is sad because why the hell should I pay for your city's incurred expenses?

[ScareCrow57]

Actually, I doubt very much that crime was anything that the IOC was worried about regards Chicago. There are places in Rio where even the army won't go, never mind the police. They are called FAVELAS
I think the deciding factor was simply that South America had never hosted the games before. Madrid probably had the best facilities and presentation but Europe and North America have hosted the games fairly recently.

I don't know what considerations they make, after the Munich games I would think security would be a concern.

[doughesson]

And George Bush got his job without the media backing him to the nth degree.
The problems this country faced on 19 January 2009 became Barack Hussein Obama's at 1200hrs,20 January 2009.He wanted the job so badly and now that he's gotten it,he wants to complain about what he has to do.
Instead of working to solve them,I have heard more
"It was like that when I got here" than I have "Okay,here's what we'll do.And it won't just be passed by people who haven't read the bill.Each yes vote must be justified by quoting a part that made the Congressman decide to vote in favor."
If a preceding shift leaves me work that they didn't do or problems made worse instead of solved during their 12 hours,I have to makee makee fixee and the boss doesn't want to hear me bitching about it.
Why can't our highest elected official adopt that work ethic?

PS. The modern Olympics are supposed to be held in different countries,not the same ones every year because the citizens are too lazy to book travel plans to other countries that don't speak English.

You got it, the new messiah is no better than the last one.

[doughesson]

George Bush and Dick Cheney had to cut their ties to halliburton and any other oils stocks that they had in the past to avoid accusations of conflict of interest.
I haven't heard that Barack Hussein Obama has disavowed any connections to ACORN since his election.Guess I must have missed the announcement,huh?

Then I shoot the ball back into your court and ask where your proof is that ACORN got money because of Obama?

Haliburton got a crapload of defense contracts while Bush was in office.

ACORN got grants while Obama is in office.

Haliburton and other oil/energy cooperations have long ties to Bush/Cheney.

ACORN has long ties to Obama.

I am not insisting that we invated Iraq for the purpose of getting their oil. My point is that when Bush was in office the libs kept on making that argument, including on this board. Now that Obama is in office, the conservatives are making the argument that Obama is paying off ACORN.

My point is not that either side is right, my point is that both sides are embracing the exact same stupid arguments. And thats what they are, arguments, conspiracy theories, pulling straws from thin air.

[DFDMAXX]

Now the Olympics are Pres. Bush's fault.

Are people forgetting that Chicago was named one of the top 4 finalists for the Olympics in June of 2008? When Bush was president? Before Obama was even named the Democrat candidate?

The bid was then lost under the Obama administration.

I'm not blaming Obama but if you just want to whine, bitch and point fingers over this issue, shouldn't you blame the guy who was in charge when it was lost, not the guy who was in charge when it was named a finalist?

[ChiefKN]

Want a laugh?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxwSUJ0iahI&feature=related

[BryanLoader]

Are people forgetting that Chicago was named one of the top 4 finalists for the Olympics in June of 2008? When Bush was president? Before Obama was even named the Democrat candidate?

The bid was then lost under the Obama administration.

I'm not blaming Obama but if you just want to whine, bitch and point fingers over this issue, shouldn't you blame the guy who was in charge when it was lost, not the guy who was in charge when it was named a finalist?

I was involved peripherally with the Athens Olympics and I'm pretty sure that neither Barrack Obama or Luis Dasilva had much, if any, effect on the outcome. I think the outcome was pretty well decided before the media splash. A countries leader is not going to have much of an effect on the decision to hold the games in a certain country, other than to pony up $$$

[DaSharkie]

Want a laugh?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxwSUJ0iahI&feature=related

And you expected what else from him or the Democrats? ACORN has been screwing people for years and the libs/Dems/progressives/whatever they are this year have always stood up and defended them and given them money.

Same with Planned Parenthood who has been shown to violate Federal law repeatedly after receiving money from us - the taxpayer. Yet, the libs/Dems/progressives defend them tooth and nail.

The Republicans do the same with their interest groups and causes they think are important.

It is the way business is done, and the electorate has short memories so they vote the same nitwits into office when they are up for re-election. This is why I don't put much stock in the statements that Obama will be a one-term President. I hope that he is (and a third party candidate will be elected), but 9 months into his Presidency I don't see it right now.

[DFDMAXX]

I was involved peripherally with the Athens Olympics and I'm pretty sure that neither Barrack Obama or Luis Dasilva had much, if any, effect on the outcome. I think the outcome was pretty well decided before the media splash. A countries leader is not going to have much of an effect on the decision to hold the games in a certain country, other than to pony up $$$

I know, I get it. I was just trying to point out the stupidity of blaming one person over another for an even more stupid reason.

Some folks have a grudge against certain people, and will aim that blame in their direction every chance they get. Even when they look like idiots doing it.

Good god, someone tell our "leaders" that whining like bitches and finger pointing isn't doing anything to improve our image to the world either.

Better yet, send them home. Elect a replacement.

[ScareCrow57]

Are people forgetting that Chicago was named one of the top 4 finalists for the Olympics in June of 2008? When Bush was president? Before Obama was even named the Democrat candidate?

The bid was then lost under the Obama administration.

I'm not blaming Obama but if you just want to whine, bitch and point fingers over this issue, shouldn't you blame the guy who was in charge when it was lost, not the guy who was in charge when it was named a finalist?

So we should blame Peter Ueberroth

[ScareCrow57]

I know, I get it. I was just trying to point out the stupidity of blaming one person over another for an even more stupid reason.

Some folks have a grudge against certain people, and will aim that blame in their direction every chance they get. Even when they look like idiots doing it.

Good god, someone tell our "leaders" that whining like bitches and finger pointing isn't doing anything to improve our image to the world either.

Better yet, send them home. Elect a replacement.

Tuesday, November 6, 2012 you will get your wish.

[doughesson]

Did you notice that things were already "sh*t" before he took office?

He hasn't fixed them yet nor does he seem likely to accept responsibility for things that turned to skit since 1-20-09 at 1200 hrs.
Does anyone else get to blame the previous shift when equipment isn't ready to go when the tones drop?
C'mon,Barry.Man up!

[doughesson]

Maybe Haliburton and KBR got contracts because they had the experience and logistical presence in the SW Asia theater.They supported troops in the field when Clinton had troops in Somalia in October 1993.
President George Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney were required by law to divest any stocks which could lead to conflict of interest while in office.If they hadn't,the news media which hated them would have been all over them worse than a stain on Monica's dress.
I have long said that if we had invaded Iraq for cheap oil,we'd be getting free gasoline stipends instead of $3.00 a gallon fuel and geologists would be worrying about the sand dunes collapsing as we sucked that country dry of petroleum.


Then I shoot the ball back into your court and ask where your proof is that ACORN got money because of Obama?

Haliburton got a crapload of defense contracts while Bush was in office.


Haliburton and other oil/energy cooperations have long ties to Bush/Cheney.



I am not insisting that we invated Iraq for the purpose of getting their oil. My point is that when Bush was in office the libs kept on making that argument, including on this board. Now that Obama is in office, the conservatives are making the argument that Obama is paying off ACORN.

My point is not that either side is right, my point is that both sides are embracing the exact same stupid arguments. And thats what they are, arguments, conspiracy theories, pulling straws from thin air.

[rm1524]

Good god, someone tell our "leaders" that whining like bitches and finger pointing isn't doing anything to improve our image to the world either.

Better yet, send them home. Elect a replacement.

Well said.

The president is a very small part of the problem with out government, the problem lies within the United States Captial. We need term limits on these clowns that go to DC and don't leave. When you spend 10, 15, 20 or more years in congress you lose touch with what is happening outside the beltway. We need people in congress that are businessmen/women and run our country like the business it is. Do you think Bill Gates or any other CEO with half a brain in his head would still be in business if they acted like our government does.

[doughesson]

According the the cover of "People" magazine,Michelle Obama says that it's Oprah's fault the Olympic Committee passed over the United States for a host city in 2016,four years AFTER the Annointed One leaves office.Guess we can scratch Mrs. Obama's name off the guest list for Oprah's show.I'd like to see that first show after that remark reaches her ears.

Are people forgetting that Chicago was named one of the top 4 finalists for the Olympics in June of 2008? When Bush was president? Before Obama was even named the Democrat candidate?

The bid was then lost under the Obama administration.

I'm not blaming Obama but if you just want to whine, bitch and point fingers over this issue, shouldn't you blame the guy who was in charge when it was lost, not the guy who was in charge when it was named a finalist?