Barack Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize

[malana1]

What next?

http://www.kcci.com/politics/21246443/detail.html

[ScareCrow57]

What next?

http://www.kcci.com/politics/21246443/detail.html

Take this with a grain of salt. these are the same idiots who Gave Al Gore a prize for creating mass hysteria over a non-issue. :rolleyes:

[GeorgeWendtCFI]

Read the first sentence of the article:

President Barack Obama won the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize on Friday in a stunning decision designed to encourage his nascent initiatives to reduce nuclear arms, ease tensions with the Muslim world and replace unilateral American action with international diplomacy and cooperation.

The award has NOTHING to do with any accomplishment. It has everything to do with ADVANCING A POLITICAL AGENDA.

This is a complete joke. We will begin to see how much of a joke in November. The laughter will grow louder come Nov. 2010. The laughter will be loudest in Nov. 2012.

One term. That's it.

[DaSharkie]

This is MSN's article.

I highlighted the most incredible part from the twits in Norway.

It is not for any specific accomplishments, only because he brings "hope." I have to ask......"Hope" for what? Increased debt for our nation? Lack of will to take on rogue states in violation of the U.N.?:rolleyes:

Next year Amadinajad will win for making the bomb so his country will be safe. :eek:

‘Humbled’ Obama wins Nobel Peace Prize
Committee says president gives world’s people ‘hope for a better future’
NBC News and news services
updated 7:47 a.m. ET, Fri., Oct . 9, 2009
OSLO, Norway - President Barack Obama won the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize on Friday for "his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples," the Norwegian Nobel Committee said, citing his outreach to the Muslim world and attempts to curb nuclear proliferation.

The stunning choice made Obama the third sitting U.S. president to win the Nobel Peace Prize and shocked Nobel observers because Obama took office less than two weeks before the Feb. 1 nomination deadline. Obama's name had been mentioned in speculation before the award but many Nobel watchers believed it was too early to award the president.

Speculation had focused on Zimbabwe's Prime Minister Morgan Tsvangirai, a Colombian senator and a Chinese dissident, along with an Afghan woman's rights activist.

The Nobel committee praised Obama's creation of "a new climate in international politics" and said he had returned multilateral diplomacy and institutions like the U.N. to the center of the world stage. The plaudit appeared to be a slap at President George W. Bush from a committee that harshly criticized Obama's predecessor for resorting to largely unilateral military action in the wake of the Sept. 11 terror attacks.

NBC News reported that White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs called Obama with the news just before 6 a.m. Aides said the president felt "humbled" by the committee's decision.

'Captured the world's attention'
Rather than recognizing concrete achievement, the 2009 prize appeared intended to support initiatives that have yet to bear fruit: reducing the world stock of nuclear arms, easing American conflicts with Muslim nations and strengthening the U.S. role in combating climate change.

"Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future," Thorbjoern Jagland, chairman of the Nobel Committee said. "In the past year Obama has been a key person for important initiatives in the U.N. for nuclear disarmament and to set a completely new agenda for the Muslim world and East-West relations."


He added that the committee endorsed "Obama's appeal that 'Now is the time for all of us to take our share of responsibility for a global response to global challenges.'"

President Theodore Roosevelt won the award in 1906 and President Woodrow Wilson won in 1919.

The committee chairman said after awarding the 2002 prize to former Democratic President Jimmy Carter, for his mediation in international conflicts, that it should be seen as a "kick in the leg" to the Bush administration's hard line in the buildup to the Iraq war.


Five years later, the committee honored Bush's adversary in the 2000 presidential election, Al Gore, for his campaign to raise awareness about global warming.

The Nobel committee received a record 205 nominations for this year's prize though it was not immediately apparent who nominated Obama.

"The exciting and important thing about this prize is that it's given too someone ... who has the power to contribute to peace," Norwegian Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg said.

Nominators include former laureates; current and former members of the committee and their staff; members of national governments and legislatures; university professors of law, theology, social sciences, history and philosophy; leaders of peace research and foreign affairs institutes; and members of international courts of law.


The Nelson Mandela Foundation welcomed the award on behalf of its founder Nelson Mandela, who shared the 1993 Peace Prize with then-South African President F.W. DeKlerk for their efforts at ending years of apartheid and laying the groundwork for a democratic country.

"We trust that this award will strengthen his commitment, as the leader of the most powerful nation in the world, to continue promoting peace and the eradication of poverty," the foundation said.

In his 1895 will, Alfred Nobel stipulated that the peace prize should go "to the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between the nations and the abolition or reduction of standing armies and the formation and spreading of peace congresses."

Unlike the other Nobel Prizes, which are awarded by Swedish institutions, he said the peace prize should be given out by a five-member committee elected by the Norwegian Parliament. Sweden and Norway were united under the same crown at the time of Nobel's death.

The committee has taken a wide interpretation of Nobel's guidelines, expanding the prize beyond peace mediation to include efforts to combat poverty, disease and climate change.

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[MalahatTwo7]

Read the first sentence of the article:

President Barack Obama won the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize on Friday in a stunning decision designed to encourage his nascent initiatives to reduce nuclear arms, ease tensions with the Muslim world and replace unilateral American action with international diplomacy and cooperation.

The award has NOTHING to do with any accomplishment. It has everything to do with ADVANCING A POLITICAL AGENDA.

This is a complete joke. We will begin to see how much of a joke in November. The laughter will grow louder come Nov. 2010. The laughter will be loudest in Nov. 2012.

One term. That's it.

George and I are in 100% agreement with this one. I almost choked on my toothbrush when I heard it on the radio this morning. After I calmed down I realized that this is politics, pure and simple and as Scarecrow wrote, taken with a grain of salt.... well ok maybe a bucket load but its not worth much more than that. Except maybe the book rights at the end of his term.

[Bones42]

Ya know what...if getting this award makes/helps ANY country agree to something through democracy instead of weapons....I am all for it.

Of course...I am not holding out any hope for that.

[MarcusKspn]

Out of all the prizes, the Nobel Peace Price has become very political. This is really no different than Al Gore scoring the win for his little movie. He didn't have any concrete results with the movie, he just raised awareness. Seems like pretty much the same concept here.

I don't think that something like a Peace Price should be given to any sitting head of state. It just seems like it would create unneeded tension with other countries.

Another thing that sticks out is this paragraph:

President Barack Obama won the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize on Friday in a stunning decision designed to encourage his nascent initiatives to reduce nuclear arms, ease tensions with the Muslim world and replace unilateral American action with international diplomacy and cooperation.

It almost sounds like they gave him the price because he is the anti-Bush. And that would be a pretty stupid reason.

My biggest surprise though is that nobody has pointed out that Adolf got a peace price too :p

[GeorgeWendtCFI]

Unless you are talking about something pother than the Nobel Peace Prize, Hitler was nominated in 1939, but the nomination was withdrawn.

The Nomination Database for the Nobel Prize
in Peace, 1901-1956
Year: 1939
Number: 9-1

Nominee:
Name: Adolf Hitler
Gender: M
Year, birth: 1889
Year, death: 1945
Profession/Category: Chancellor and Führer of Germany (1933-1945).
City: Berlin
Country: DE (GERMANY)

Motivation: Hitler was the leader of the German Nationalist Socialist Party.

Nominator:

Name: E.G.C. Brandt
Gender: M
Profession/Category: Member of the Swedish parliament
Country: SE (SWEDEN)

Evaluation: No

Comment: The nomination was withdrawn in a letter of February 1, 1939.

[MarcusKspn]

Unless you are talking about something pother than the Nobel Peace Prize, Hitler was nominated in 1939, but the nomination was withdrawn.

Darn my crappy memory.

I think I got the nomination mixed up with the Time Man of the Year.

(Remind me not to post without my morning dose of coffee.)

[Golzy12]

Well he must be doing something right.

[GeorgeWendtCFI]

Darn my crappy memory.

I think I got the nomination mixed up with the Time Man of the Year.

(Remind me not to post without my morning dose of coffee.)

It's understandable. You were in the Academy in 1939, weren't you? :D

[GeorgeWendtCFI]

Well he must be doing something right.

Name it. Better yet, name one tangible thing.

[jasper45]

The award has NOTHING to do with any accomplishment. It has everything to do with ADVANCING A POLITICAL AGENDA.


Well, considering that the nominations were made for this prize last February, it is an absolutely useless and meaningless accomplishment. If we can even call it an accomplishment.

February – Deadline for submission. The Committee bases its assessment on nominations that must be postmarked no later than 1 February each year. Nominations postmarked and received after this date are included in the following year's discussions. In recent years, the Committee has received close to 200 different nominations for the Nobel Peace Prize. The number of nominating letters is much higher, as many are for the same candidates.

http://nobelprize.org/nomination/peace/process.html


This award means nothing at all and is purely political.

[Firemedic 61]

Silly me, I thought he won for that magic spray he invented........ You know the one that keeps ***** from sticking to him in the media(except Fox that is). I feel bad for the people who won Nobles for legitimate reasons because this makes the whole process a real sham. Nothing like an international hand job!

[DaSharkie]

Of course...I am not holding out any hope for that.

At least you won't be disappointed then. :D

[MarcusKspn]

I feel bad for the people who won Nobles for legitimate reasons because this makes the whole process a real sham. Nothing like an international hand job!

Hey, I'll put up with a lot on these forums, but I will not stand by while you badmouth hand jobs :mad:

[GeorgeWendtCFI]

This just in...

David Gregory just announced on Joe Scarborough's show that Pres. Obama has been awarded the 2009 Cy Young Award.

[GeorgeWendtCFI]

Read the next-to-last sentence...

Obama Accepts Nobel Peace Prize as a 'Call for Action'
President Becomes Third Sitting U.S. President to Win the Nobel, After Theodore Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson
By HUMA KHAN, YUNJI de NIES and KAREN TRAVERS
Oct. 9, 2009

Acknowledging that he was "surprised and deeply humbled" by the news that he had won the Nobel Peace Prize, President Barack Obama today urged the international community to work together on addressing the challenges of the 21st century.

The Nobel committee cites his efforts to strengthen international diplomacy."I do not feel I deserve to be in the company of so many transformative figures who have been honored by this prize," Obama said in brief remarks at the White House. "I do not view it as a recognition of my own accomplishments but rather as an affirmation of American leadership on behalf of aspirations held by people in all nations."

The president said the prize will be used as a means to give momentum, but that no one person or one administration alone can solve all the problems.

"All nations must take responsibility for the world we seek," the president said. "We cannot tolerate a world in which nuclear weapons spread to more nations. ... We cannot accept the growing threat posed by climate change, which could forever danger the world we pass on to our children. ... We cannot allow the differences between people to allow the way we see one another."

Stressing the work he has done as commander-in-chief in pulling back forces from Iraq, Obama said that "some of the work confronting us will not be completed during our presidency" and that some work "may not be completed during my lifetime." But he added that he was hopeful the challenges will be met.

"This award is not about the efforts of my administration, it's about the efforts of people around the world," he said.

Obama, the third sitting U.S. president to win the prestigious award, will travel to Oslo in December to accept the prize in person.

The news that Obama was awarded the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize came as a surprise, even to the White House. Press aides said they had heard from news reports weeks ago that the president was nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize but they do not believe Obama himself knew of his nomination.

The deadline for nominations is Feb. 1, meaning the president was nominated after being in office for just 11 days.

Geir Lundestad, director of the Norwegian Nobel Institute, told "Good Morning America" the decision to pick Obama was unanimous.

[MarcusKspn]

Great response from Huckabee (http://www.huckpac.com/?Fuseaction=Blogs.View&Blog_id=2842):

There will be an outcry from those on the right who will say that Obama's nomination, made two weeks into his Presidency, is impossible to justify but I think such an outcry will sound like right-wing whining. The better response is simply to allow those on the left to explain what he did in his first two weeks as President that merited such recognition.

[jasper45]

Great response from Huckabee (http://www.huckpac.com/?Fuseaction=Blogs.View&Blog_id=2842):


I agree that it is a great response. I just wonder just how many people understand how the selection process goes for the prize, the time line involved, etc...

The way the story is implied is that the president was nominated and selected based on his actions of the past few months.
When the reality is that he was nominated very shortly after his election. So hopefully showing the selection process isn't considered to be whining.

[MarcusKspn]

I agree that it is a great response. I just wonder just how many people understand how the selection process goes for the prize, the time line involved, etc...

The way the story is implied is that the president was nominated and selected based on his actions of the past few months.
When the reality is that he was nominated very shortly after his election. So hopefully showing the selection process isn't considered to be whining.

My biggest question would be how far ahead do they actually vote? I understand the nomination came way early. But when do they decide who wins?

[len1582]

I'll bet Jimmy Carter is so proud.

[GeorgeWendtCFI]

I agree that it is a great response. I just wonder just how many people understand how the selection process goes for the prize, the time line involved, etc...

The way the story is implied is that the president was nominated and selected based on his actions of the past few months.
When the reality is that he was nominated very shortly after his election. So hopefully showing the selection process isn't considered to be whining.

That doesn't matter. He accomplished the same thing in the last few months that he did in the first 280 hours: NOTHING!

One term, folks. One term.

[DaSharkie]

I'll bet Jimmy Carter is so proud.

One twit who screwed the citizenry to another.

Incidentally, here is his quote on MSN.....I highlighted it along with several other notable twits. I can't fathom that some people actually think that this means anything.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33240807/ns/politics-capitol_hill/

GOP, even some liberals, dismiss Obama's prize
'What has President Obama actually accomplished?' asks RNC chairman
msnbc.com staff and news service reports
updated 3:02 p.m. ET, Fri., Oct . 9, 2009
WASHINGTON - Gee, you'd think a U.S. president who won the Nobel Peace Prize might get rave reviews from his party's activists and polite congrats from top Republicans.

But news of Barack Obama's award Friday drew a rebuke from the Republican Party chairman, ridicule from conservative bloggers, and even gripes from some liberals who think he hasn't done enough to wind down the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Top Democrats congratulated Obama, of course, but critics abounded on the left and right.

"What has President Obama actually accomplished?" said Michael Steele, chairman of the Republican National Committee.

Steele, who took over the reins of the party earlier this year, said he thought it was "unfortunate that the president's star power has outshined tireless advocates who have made real achievements working towards peace and human rights."

He said he doesn't think Obama will be "receiving any awards from Americans for job creation, fiscal responsibility, or backing up rhetoric with concrete action."

Praise from Dems
There was praise from two Democrats who also have won the Nobel Peace Prize.

Former President Jimmy Carter, who won in 2002, called Obama's selection a "bold statement of international support for his vision and commitment."

And former Vice President Al Gore, who won two years ago, said Obama's prize was "extremely well deserved."

"I think that much of what he has accomplished already is going to be far more appreciated in the eyes of history, as it has been by the Nobel committee," Gore said.

And some Republicans had kind words, too.

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., Obama's presidential rival last year, told CNN he could not divine the Nobel committee's intentions, "but I think part of their decision-making was expectations. And I'm sure the president understands that he now has even more to live up to. But as Americans, we're proud when our president receives an award of that prestigious category."

Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty said, "under any circumstances I thought an appropriate response is congratulations."

But GOP Rep. Gresham Barrett, who is running for governor of South Carolina, mocked Obama's prize.

"I'm not sure what the international community loved best; his waffling on Afghanistan, pulling defense missiles out of Eastern Europe, turning his back on freedom fighters in Honduras, coddling Castro, siding with Palestinians against Israel, or almost getting tough on Iran," Barrett said.

Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, was more diplomatic, saying on Fox News that he was "pleased" that a U.S. president had won, and that he hoped the award would be "an incentive" for Obama to work hard on global issues, especially humanitarian ones.

Congress' top Republican leaders — Sen. Mitch McConnell of Kentucky and Rep. John Boehner of Ohio — were silent on Obama's award Friday.



Several commentators challenged the value of the Peace Prize, noting that Palestinian President Yasser Arafat shared it in 1994.

"What's Obama done?" asked Rick Moran in his blog on American Thinker, a strong advocate of Israel. "What peace has he negotiated? ... I suppose an organization that thought Yasser Arafat worthy of the same prize can't be taken seriously anyway. But they are."

Erick Erickson, writing on the conservative RedState.com, suggested Obama won in part because he is black.

"I did not realize the Nobel Peace Prize had an affirmative action quota for it, but that is the only thing I can think of for this news," Erickson wrote. "There is no way Barack Obama earned it in the nominations period."

On foxnews.com, conservative columnist Tommy De Seno chronicled the 12 days that Obama had been in office before the deadline for the Nobel Peace Prize nominations.

"So there you have it," he wrote after listing a brief summary of Obama's workflow over those days. "The short path to the Nobel Peace Prize: Party, go to meetings, skip church, release federal funding to pay for abortions in foreign countries, party some more."

Liberal bias?
Fox News host Chris Wallace noted on television that the Nobel committee represents a "left-wing" parliament in Norway.


Hatch echoed that view, saying that "we never expect a conservative Republican" to receive the peace prize.

Obama himself said he felt humbled and undeserving, declaring in a Rose Garden statement: "I do not view it as a recognition of my own accomplishments."

The reaction was only slightly warmer on some liberal Web sites, where some writers said Obama should end the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan before being awarded such a prize.

To be sure, some groups and politicians gave Obama full-throated congratulations.

Global Zero, comprising political and military leaders from around the world, applauded Obama's award, which was "in part based on his leadership to achieve the elimination of nuclear weapons."


Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine, who chairs the Democratic National Committee, called the award "an affirmation of the fact that the United States has returned to its long-standing role as a world leader."

Sen. Debbie Stabenow, D-Mich., chastised the GOP's Steele for his remarks, and noted that conservative activists had cheered when Obama failed last week to bring the 2016 Olympic Games to Chicago.

"I find it very very disappointing for the chairman of the Republican Party — after the cheers that went out when America lost the Olympics — to now be attacking our president, everyone's president in our country, at a time when he is being recognized on the world stage," Stabenow said.

The award appeared to be at least partly a slap at former President George W. Bush from a committee that harshly criticized Obama's predecessor for his largely unilateral military action in the wake of the Sept. 11 terror attacks.

"People can read into it whatever they want," said former Bush spokesman Tony Fratto. "But when you're awarded a Nobel Peace Prize and the first question everyone asks is 'for what?' then you have to question what the motives of the Nobel committee are in making the award."

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[DaSharkie]

Also kind of funny that we haven't seen scfire86 and the other libs around here defending the Chosen One's selection.

Been kind of quiet from the left side of the aisle here lately.

[MarcusKspn]

Also kind of funny that we haven't seen scfire86 and the other libs around here defending the Chosen One's selection.

Been kind of quiet from the left side of the aisle here lately.

Have I become the most Liberal poster here? I always thought of myself as being more moderate than that.

[ScareCrow57]

Name it. Better yet, name one tangible thing.

Easy...We are One Trillion dollars further in debt. It's tangible, just on the wrong tangent

[ScareCrow57]

Great response from Huckabee (http://www.huckpac.com/?Fuseaction=Blogs.View&Blog_id=2842):

Its kind of funny. We have a couple of big Obama supporters in the office. Even they thought is was a joke. Was funny watching people come in this AM. They would see the headline on the TV and then instantly ask....What has he done? I don't think it is so much whining as people saying wait a minute. Let the man accomplish something first.

[ScareCrow57]

My biggest question would be how far ahead do they actually vote? I understand the nomination came way early. But when do they decide who wins?

Huh. Speaking of votes. He won A Nobel Peace Prize vote and lost an Olympic vote. One has substance and means something, the other is just a peace prize.

[eng451]

I have only one question to those who voted for this.... Why?

I can think of other people who have done more than Mr. Obama.

[DrParasite]

well, he did negotiate the peace settlement between the harvard professor and the police office over a few beers....

[txgp17]

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[FIREMECH1]

The true culprits are the members of the Nobel Prize committee, Obama will get the attention for accepting an award that most do not see him as worthy of. I rather he acknowledge this fact, and say, "I reject this award on the reason that I feel many others deserve this award for their lives work for peace, I am just beginning." In my opinion such action of valor will gain him much more favor with many people worldwide and put the Nobel Peace prize committee to shame, and they will think twice next time they hand a free gift to a non-deserving person.

We know the date he was nominated, but what was the date of the final vote??? When N. Korea actually launched a missile???


FM1

[ScareCrow57]

Well TX, that is a good video and points out something. Awards are normally given in recognition of accomplishing something. They only thing Barry has accomplished is the duping of a majority of Americans.

[edpmedic]

By not turning it down he effectively endorses the decision, acknowledging that he deserves the Prize more so than anyone else (many of who are far more deserving by evidence of their past actions). He'll have to live with the stigma and negative political ramifications that goes along with that then, seeing that his actions haven't caused any real change, at least not at the close of the nomination period, 11 days into his term and all.

Ideas and thoughts of peace are great. Really. I wonder then why the Ms America or Ms Universe winners of days past haven't monopolized the Nobel Peace Prize every year. You know, when they ask the contestant to state what they would wish for, with the generic response of world peace, or an end to world hunger or something.

[doughesson]

The Nobel Prize Committee's decision to make this award to our President just goes to show how low the bar has been lowered for him.

Someone once told me that the reason we only have four years for anyone to be President is so that he cannot do irreparable harm to the country before being voted out of office.
I'm not so sure about that anymore.The way this guy spent money in his first few months in office will be harming the nation's finances long after he is gone.Most of the bills will come due AFTER his term is up.


This is a complete joke. We will begin to see how much of a joke in November. The laughter will grow louder come Nov. 2010. The laughter will be loudest in Nov. 2012.

One term. That's it.

[doughesson]

I don't think he has that much honor.Since swearing in to office,he has denied being at fault for anything that happened before his watch began,even though he is responsible for it,his fault or not and still has yet to take blame for anything that has gone wrong ON his watch.

The true culprits are the members of the Nobel Prize committee, Obama will get the attention for accepting an award that most do not see him as worthy of. I rather he acknowledge this fact, and say, "I reject this award on the reason that I feel many others deserve this award for their lives work for peace, I am just beginning." In my opinion such action of valor will gain him much more favor with many people worldwide and put the Nobel Peace prize committee to shame, and they will think twice next time they hand a free gift to a non-deserving person.

We know the date he was nominated, but what was the date of the final vote??? When N. Korea actually launched a missile???


FM1

[ScareCrow57]

I don't think he has that much honor.Since swearing in to office,he has denied being at fault for anything that happened before his watch began,even though he is responsible for it,his fault or not and still has yet to take blame for anything that has gone wrong ON his watch.

He did nothing as a senator, so how can he be blamed for anything? Then again, if you chose not to decide you still have made a choice.

[FIREMECH1]

Hitler gets the news.....

http://www.teezplace.com/Cat%20Walk/Obamas_Nobel_Prize.swf

FM1

[fireinfo10]

Also kind of funny that we haven't seen scfire86 and the other libs around here defending the Chosen One's selection.

Been kind of quiet from the left side of the aisle here lately.

Soros drop his pay for blog posting project? Perhaps they are figuring out the Perception Management is BS.