Running led lights on my pov

[Lebanonsproby]

Alright i am 16 years old and i am training to be a firefighter through explores as well as a career center program with chief Hayes as my instructor, this may sound stupid, but i really want to know. I am a certified first responder and i have a scanner for my county, i was wondering since i am a first responder can i run green led lights on my pov, since i tend to hear calls come out around me and i usually go help. The local fire dept. know me from riding out and have no problem with me arriving on scene to lend a hand. I understand the lights are simply a courtesy light, and that i must follow all rules of the road. I was simply just curious cause it would be nice if i could have the possability of drivers pulling over so i can get to the scene faster. Yesterday was a great example i heard a call go out for a serious PI by my house, i attempted to go help but traffic was to heavy and i didn't get there in time, a 3 yr. old little girl was thrown from the vehicle and was DRT, the local fire dept. was already on a call and didn't get there in time either. I was just thinking if maybe i got there sooner maybe i could of saved that little girls life. Go head and say what u will, trust me your not going to hurt my feelings, i already know i am not a firefighter yet and i am unexperienced and probably dont desearve to use a light on my pov, i was just asking. If i can use a light on my pov how do i do it and who do i need to talk to to get it approved, thx for reading this thread i greatly apperciate it.

[nmfire]

Its nice to see a well thought out question about this for once. Though I'm sure someone will make this into a big deal.

Blinking lights are regulated by state law and local department rules. Your state law may or not allow you to do it. It depends on how it is worded. Department rules must also allow you to do it. The state law might not prohibit it but your department can certainly say that Explorers can not use flashing lights. Your department may also not have any rules written about it at all, in which case it is your chief's decision most likely.

So the best thing for you to do is ask your department the same thing you asked here. They're the only ones that can accurately answer you.

[rescuedawg]

Stop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!

[cozmosis]

Alright i am 16 years old and i am training to be a firefighter through explores as well as a career center program with chief Hayes as my instructor

In all seriousness, go ask Chief Hayes (whoever he may be) and not some random guys on an Internet message board. He knows your department and your laws and you. No need to ask strangers.

Yesterday was a great example i heard a call go out for a serious PI by my house, i attempted to go help but traffic was to heavy and i didn't get there in time, a 3 yr. old little girl was thrown from the vehicle and was DRT

That seems like an awfully flippant comment for a 16 year old... and maybe I'm just reading too much into it... But it concerns me.

[GeorgeWendtCFI]

...this may sound stupid...

Ya hit that one on the head.

[mcfdrichey25]

Just remember man, since you're so young you're held to closer scrutiny if something happens. Being a young driver, although your intentions are admirable, I recommend holding out for as long as possible no matter what your FD allows. No matter what the outcome, just remember, you can't help the people if you never make it there (better to get there late than never). Good luck and stay safe brother!

[ChiefKN]

Check with your chief.

However, I don't think you should be driving with any lights or signals until you are over 18. In all honesty, it should probably be even later then that, but that's a good place to start.

The reality is that the few minutes it *might* buy you are not likely to make a difference.

.

[Cappy05]

Lebanonsprobie,

It sounds to me that there may be a deeper issue you are dealing with. The death of a child brings up many questions in your head about what you could have done. Trust me anyone that has been on a department for awhile has dealt with these same questions and there is that call that you can never get out of your head.

Young man, there is nothing you could have done to save that child. We as firefighters always feel there is something we could have done but sometimes there is nothing we could have done to change the outcome. It is very unfortunate this happened and even pulls on me that a 3 year old has died.

I would suggest you have a good talk with your department chaplain or someone you trust completely and get what you can off your chest.

Now for your question. In my opinion and on my department noone other than the Chief has lights on their vehicle. It is forbidden.

1st off I do not believe your insurance company is going to ceover you with lights an sirens on your vehicle even if you had an accident where you were not driving with them on and probably would not cover anyone else on the policy. Remember it is not your policy it is your parents or guardians.

Secondly, you may want to check your first responder status. In my state(I am assuming your state is Ohio) you must be 18 to be considered a first responder. Just because you have had the classes does not mean you have the cert.

Thirdly, I have been guilty of this too but please do some searching on this question on these forums. This particular one has been asked and discussed many times.

But as I said I think there is something more behind your question. It is extremely important that you talk with someone about your experience. I have been on several deaths of children and I always talk to my chaplain because I trust him completely.

Continue your education in the fire service. You seem to be very dedicated at looking at this as a career. Learn all you can but remember there are some things you can not be in control of.

[EastKyFF]

So you're asking if we think it's OK to be a freelance emergency responder?

The answer is, "Noooooooooo."

The reasons are:

1. Probably illegal for you to run lights because
a. You're underage and
b. You're NOT PART OF AN EMERGENCY SERVICE.

2. Probably illegal for you to scanner hop, and maybe even to own the scanner because of 1b

3. You have no worker's comp coverage because of 1a and 1b


As far as this "DRT" crap, that is whacker terminology that I highly suggest you abandon immediately. To be that coarse about a 3-year-old child's death suggests that either you are far too heartless for this kind of work or you made the whole thing up to rationalize this goofy idea because you want rationalization for doing it despite 1a and 1b.

Clear? Crystal.

[FWDbuff]

this may sound stupid

You think so?

[DFurtman]

I answered your same thread in the explorers forum.

-Damien

[GeorgeWendtCFI]

I answered your same thread in the explorers forum.

-Damien

Stunning as that may be...

[Dickey]

Like all the others have said, check with your Chief.

ALSO....The Boy Scouts, who govern the Explorer posts, have a rule that explorers MAY NOT use any sort of emergency lights regardless of what the host department says. This is for insurance purposes. If something would happen, you are an EXPLORER, not a firefighter, so you would be only covered under the Boy Scouts insurance.

Check with your local Boy Scout office for the rule.

[GTRider245]

As others have said, check with the chief. But I can almost assure you the answer will be no, for a few reasons.

1. You didnt mention being affiliated with a department. As mentioned above, you are pretty much freelancing if that be the case.

2. No individual, regardless of age or cerification level, should be able to run lights and sirens in a POV before taking some kind of emergency vehicle driver's training program. Have you?

I dont know of any department or organization that would allow explorers or cadets to run lights and sirens in POVs. It is way too much of a liability. Do your time as an explorer and then worry about this when you are a member of a department.

[ltkeith25]

If you are not licensed by the state as a first responder with a service, but passed a course as a first responder, you are still not a first responder.
Does your state have graduated drivers licensed program-in Wisc. there are certain things young drivers can & cannot do.


What does DRT stand for? I never heard that in my neck of the woods.

[GeorgeWendtCFI]

If you are not licensed by the state as a first responder with a service, but passed a course as a first responder, you are still not a first responder.
Does your state have graduated drivers licensed program-in Wisc. there are certain things young drivers can & cannot do.


What does DRT stand for? I never heard that in my neck of the woods.

DRT stands for Dead Right There.

I have actually used the term myself. But it is not right for someone who has most likely not yet seen a dead body to use it.

[ltkeith25]

Thanks for the definition. I googled it too and found what it stood for.
Not the best choice of wording for a victim.

[CaptOldTimer]

Alright i am 16 years old and i am training to be a firefighter through explores as well as a career center program with chief Hayes as my instructor, this may sound stupid, but i really want to know. I am a certified first responder and i have a scanner for my county, i was wondering since i am a first responder can i run green led lights on my pov, since i tend to hear calls come out around me and i usually go help. The local fire dept. know me from riding out and have no problem with me arriving on scene to lend a hand. I understand the lights are simply a courtesy light, and that i must follow all rules of the road. I was simply just curious cause it would be nice if i could have the possability of drivers pulling over so i can get to the scene faster. Yesterday was a great example i heard a call go out for a serious PI by my house, i attempted to go help but traffic was to heavy and i didn't get there in time, a 3 yr. old little girl was thrown from the vehicle and was DRT, the local fire dept. was already on a call and didn't get there in time either. I was just thinking if maybe i got there sooner maybe i could of saved that little girls life. Go head and say what u will, trust me your not going to hurt my feelings, i already know i am not a firefighter yet and i am unexperienced and probably dont desearve to use a light on my pov, i was just asking. If i can use a light on my pov how do i do it and who do i need to talk to to get it approved, thx for reading this thread i greatly apperciate it.




Your first priority in life as it is today is to stay in school pay more attention and learn correct grammar, sentence syntax and grow up.

When you become of age and maybe after serving the armed services for two years or so, come back and apply for a job in a paid department.

Oh, by the way, forget about the lights on your pov, If you were my kid I'd take the keys away from you for a while!!
;)

[nmfire]

I don't know why some of you have to be so hard on this kid. He actually presented a well thought out question with reasoning and logic. As opposed to some of the more typical ones which are incompetent and useless. And he seems to be very clear that his priority is helping people, not having a bunch of cool lights (again unlike the typical kids).

While most 16yr olds with cars are out partying whenever possible, at least he's trying to do something good for his community and use his training. The least you could do is not treat the kid like dirt when you give him your opinion on the matter.

[CALFFBOU]

Your first priority in life as it is today is to stay in school pay more attention and learn correct grammar, sentence syntax and grow up.


Lebanonsproby- COT made some good points.

Please let me expand- You are only 16 once in your life. Be an Explorer and enjoy the experience. But you should make school, friends and growing up a priority. Just enjoy life, your family and other activities as well.

Why am I telling you this? I was in the same boat at 16, minus the lights on my POV. I knew I wanted to pursue the fire service and got my start in the Explorer program.

I wish I would have goofed off a little more and just put the career on hold as well. Please just take it easy, the fire service will always be there when you get out.

Good luck.

[hwoods]

I think this might have been mentioned, but if so, I'll reinforce it.....

You have a way to go yet. Relax a bit. The most important thing you can do at this point is LEARN. Make it a Strong, Positive, Habit to Learn something new every day.

One Lesson that I would offer is ENGLISH. You speak it, but you aren't putting it into print very well. A couple of points to consider............

Text Messaging and "The Forums" - Discussion Forums such as this one ARE NOT A TEXT MESSAGE. Different Rules apply, one of them regarding the letter "I" A small "i" Never Stands Alone, such as "i went home". Standing alone, an "I" is always Capitialized. Another is "You", the use of "u" where "You" should be is unacceptable.

In my book, and probably a lot of other folks as well, using "Textspeak" on here will identify someone as a clueless teenybopper with zero credibility.

[pgfd65]

Ok kid. I took you seriously when you posted this in the explorer forum but now I'm beginning to wonder if you just want attention. There was no reason to post this in 3 forums. You're 16, you're not a firefighter, relax and take advantage of the learning experience. You're only 16, you're not ready to be a "hero" because it will go to your head and you will think that you are the best person in the world. Yes were here to save people but it's because it's our job not because we want the fame that I feel you're seeking. If the incident you mentioned is really bothering you then seek the attention of a chaplain or counselor. I know those incidents are hard but this is not your answer.

[CaptainGonzo]

Alright i am 16 years old and i am training to be a firefighter through explores as well as a career center program with chief Hayes as my instructor, this may sound stupid, but i really want to know. I am a certified first responder and i have a scanner for my county, i was wondering since i am a first responder can i run green led lights on my pov, since i tend to hear calls come out around me and i usually go help. The local fire dept. know me from riding out and have no problem with me arriving on scene to lend a hand. I understand the lights are simply a courtesy light, and that i must follow all rules of the road. I was simply just curious cause it would be nice if i could have the possability of drivers pulling over so i can get to the scene faster. Yesterday was a great example i heard a call go out for a serious PI by my house, i attempted to go help but traffic was to heavy and i didn't get there in time, a 3 yr. old little girl was thrown from the vehicle and was DRT, the local fire dept. was already on a call and didn't get there in time either. I was just thinking if maybe i got there sooner maybe i could of saved that little girls life. Go head and say what u will, trust me your not going to hurt my feelings, i already know i am not a firefighter yet and i am unexperienced and probably dont desearve to use a light on my pov, i was just asking. If i can use a light on my pov how do i do it and who do i need to talk to to get it approved, thx for reading this thread i greatly apperciate it.

Damn... these kids are like the Hydra from Greek Mythology... get rid of one, another pops up in its place... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

A 16 year old "wannabe a hero" needs lights on his POV like a fish needs a bicycle.

[hwoods]

a fish needs a bicycle.


:D :D :D :D :D

[TheNewGuy71]

At 16 you do not have enough driving experience to be driving with emergency lights. You will end up injuring/killing yourself or someone else.

[FireRescue61]

Lebanonsproby, If you can not get green (or blue) try getting amber lights. At least you will be more visible even if you can not move traffic.

[Lebanonsproby]

To things i deeply respect u guys and yes i will use text this is a forum if i wanted to use correct grammar i would, but this is a type fast type of communicating, and the amber lights are not a bad idea, oh and no im not in it for the fame and the only reason i posted it in 3 forums was because i wanted to get an answer, for some reason, one of the replys i sent has not been added so i will say it again, i have talked to my chief that is in charge on the local department and he said that it was ok and that he believes that i am responsible enough for the lights, but i have decided myself i don't need the lights and i am not putting lights on my pov, and also for the individual that stated it was illegal for me to have a scanner, it was given to me by the chief so if something does happen in my area i can respond to simply assist, and you have to be 15 to become certified as a first responder in my state. So yes i am certified, and for future reference when u r talking to a explorer or anyone that is attempting to make something of himself and help people don't put them down, but i can't say i didn't expect it. I may be young but i have been around the fire service my whole life. I AM NOT SOME KID THAT WANTS TO PLAY FIREMAN! I want to end this by saying i deeply respect all of u and respect as well as thank you for what u r doing out there, but seriously like one of the post said that i will think that i am the best or whatever, the way u guys r talking makes u sound very arrogant. For the few of u that responded to this post in a positive way i thank you, i also thank you for seeing me as a future firefighter/EMT (maybe Firefighter/PM) i really haven't decided yet lol, but thank you for not seeing me like many other individuals that responded to this post say me. Once again i thank ALL OF U for your service! STAY SAFE!!!!

[1nvestigations]

I would put no lights on my vehicle unless I had permission to do so from my chief.
He never said anything about a siren but green lights, which I guess are used by volly ff there are a courtesy light.
If you get caught with amber or any other color and you are not authorized to have it you can be arrested.
I doubt your chief would allow you. What happens if you get into an accident. Under who's auspices were you responding as?
Then the lawyers get involved. Chief, why did you authorize this guy who is not a member of your dept. to equip his vehicle? Was he responding as a member of your company? He must have cause his green lights were on and he was going to the scene.
Keep the lights off your vehicle. You don't need them. Wait until you are 18 then join as a full member, wait out your probation then ask if you can put lights on your vehicle.

[CaptainGonzo]

To things i deeply respect u guys and yes i will use text this is a forum if i wanted to use correct grammar i would, but this is a type fast type of communicating, and the amber lights are not a bad idea, oh and no im not in it for the fame and the only reason i posted it in 3 forums was because i wanted to get an answer, for some reason, one of the replys i sent has not been added so i will say it again, i have talked to my chief that is in charge on the local department and he said that it was ok and that he believes that i am responsible enough for the lights, but i have decided myself i don't need the lights and i am not putting lights on my pov, and also for the individual that stated it was illegal for me to have a scanner, it was given to me by the chief so if something does happen in my area i can respond to simply assist, and you have to be 15 to become certified as a first responder in my state. So yes i am certified, and for future reference when u r talking to a explorer or anyone that is attempting to make something of himself and help people don't put them down, but i can't say i didn't expect it. I may be young but i have been around the fire service my whole life. I AM NOT SOME KID THAT WANTS TO PLAY FIREMAN! I want to end this by saying i deeply respect all of u and respect as well as thank you for what u r doing out there, but seriously like one of the post said that i will think that i am the best or whatever, the way u guys r talking makes u sound very arrogant. For the few of u that responded to this post in a positive way i thank you, i also thank you for seeing me as a future firefighter/EMT (maybe Firefighter/PM) i really haven't decided yet lol, but thank you for not seeing me like many other individuals that responded to this post say me. Once again i thank ALL OF U for your service! STAY SAFE!!!!

It's not arrogance... it is years of experience dealing with arrogant children like you who ask for advice, then ignore it if it is something you do not want to hear. There are enough of these types on the forums right now.. we don't need another! :rolleyes:

You had better get used to using proper spelling, syntax and grammar now, as that is how the "real world" communicates.

Try using textspeak on a patient care report or fire incident report; it will be kicked back to you until you do get it right.

A PCR and FIR is a legal document that can and will be used in court depositions, lawsuits and other legal matters.

[rm1524]

Capt -

For him to understand you need to reply to him in his high school textspeak.

Lebanon -
It may be easier for you to type in text but it makes it hard for us to understand what you mean. If you don't want to put forth the effort to do it right what makes you think these guys are going to cut you any slack. Another thing if you want to half-*** type/text then that tells be you are just another lazy kid that thinks that everyone owes you something. Best of luck. For all you text people - bst of lck.

[CALFFBOU]

Wow, this is the future thats going to be running the country?

Bad grammar, sentence structure (I hate one like long paragraph), excuses, mixing in a scanner, vehicle lights and "I want my answer now" attitide...We are in trouble.

OP- Please don't ever come to California, you wont make it here.

Gonz- Thanks for stepping up and laying it down for this "youth".

[FireEeyore]

The continued use of commas cracked me up...

I will reply in his speak to match his context

"l00k okay dude, u r 2 newb to do this on ur pwn, ok. You say like orly, and I am like , ami rite dude? u need to gain some exp b4 u try to be an pwnerer. keep lving up and come back to the fyre service."

[haligan155]

Give the kid a break, he’s a CHILD. We were there once too. Knew everything, could save the world, invincible. Just close your eyes and try to remember.
For the kid, Chillax, chase girls, have fun. You’ll understand in 15 years, trust me. You may think I am full of it now, but I’m not. I know this, because I did the same thing when I was 16.

[tajm611]

I understand its faster. But why do you want to be? Wouldn't you want to take your time and be a little more articulate? Don't get me wrong, I'm barely 5 years your senior but even then, I at least made myself presentable.


Think of it this way, if you are incapable of putting together a coherent post/mono-paragraph, which is a skill bested as a 6th grader, it would give me little reason to believe you are capable of understanding a skill bested as an adult.


Make yourself better, learn everyday and let the tombstone be your diploma. Lights are not important. Driving with your flashers would be more effective. You need your nose in books, not the firestore.com's light inventory.


Lights don't go on a resume'.

[CALFFBOU]

Lights are not important. Driving with your flashers would be more effective. You need your nose in books, not the firestore.com's light inventory.


Lights don't go on a resume'.

Wow, one of the best postings in the history of FH.com

Thank you.

[ChiefKN]

If you want to be taken seriously, you have to write like an adult.

Your post is unreadable.

[tajm611]

Wow, one of the best postings in the history of FH.com

Thank you.

Thank you. I am only 22 so I am still considered a "spring chicken" to most of you, but please realize that there are many young ones who do not follow the dogma of our peers.


A handful of us listen more then we talk and when we talk we are respectable.

[MarcusKspn]

I understand its faster. But why do you want to be? Wouldn't you want to take your time and be a little more articulate? Don't get me wrong, I'm barely 5 years your senior but even then, I at least made myself presentable.

Heck, I'm 29, and I grew up typing on a keyboard. How much time does anybody really save by not hitting the shift key while pressing the "i" key? How much time does anybody really save by typing "u" instead of you? If typing three extra letters slows down anybodies efficiency by that much, then he needs to take some remedial typing classes.

What a lot of kids also don't understand is that a forum such as this is a lot different than posting on 4chan. This is a professional forum (at least it's supposed to be :D ), and people expect to read proper grammar. Text-speak is fine, if you are texting. If you are posting to adults, then you should type like adults.

At the risk of looking like a jerk I will say this: After reading one sentence of the original post I already know that I am dealing with a kid who does not have the maturity to properly address adults while using proper English. If you cannot be bothered to make your post easy to read, then I don't see any reason for me to read it.

Using "Text-speak" on here is no different than walking up to me and using "skater talk" or "stoner talk". Speak proper English and type proper English, it will get you far in life.

[tajm611]

I think my generation has a problem with not being catered to. When asking a question, they seem to already know the answer and just want it reaffirmed. They want to hear you agree with them and if you don't, then there's excuses or reasons you are wrong.


I see that a lot know of days. I didn't grow up in the best home but my mom busted her *** to send me to a decent school and I am grateful enough to put my education to good use.


In regards to OP, we are not anon. We are not your friends on xbox live. We are not the guys in the band you like. I play xbox, I was in a band for years, I have many tattoos, but when addressing other adults, I let my intelligence and respect show.

Learn. You are not smart enough to teach.

[Dickey]

Lebanonsproby...

Let me make this as perfectly clear as possible.

The BOY SCOUTS of AMERICA have a rule that fire fire explorers are not allowed to be in a vehicle responding with lights and sirens and a high rate of speed. Regardless of approval of your chief, you CANNOT do it according to the Boy Scout rules.

Learn to text like a person reads or types.

You want to be treated like an adult then start acting like one.

[Dickey]

I think my generation has a problem with not being catered to. When asking a question, they seem to already know the answer and just want it reaffirmed. They want to hear you agree with them and if you don't, then there's excuses or reasons you are wrong.




I see this as a rising trend everywhere, not just the fire service. These attitudes in the fire service are very bad news. This needs to be corrected and fast!



Taj....

You have more respect from me by recognizing this and by your comments. I wish all young firefighters coming in would have the same attitude. I can already see a great firefighter in you just from your comments.

A tip of the leather to you sir.
(ok plastic, but it has the same meaning:D)

[hwoods]

Taj....

You have more respect from me by recognizing this and by your comments. I wish all young firefighters coming in would have the same attitude. I can already see a great firefighter in you just from your comments.

A tip of the leather to you sir.
(ok plastic, but it has the same meaning:D)


I'm with Jason. You represent the type of attitude that I'm trying to find in recruits for my Department.


And, Am I the only one who caught that the O.P. created A ONE HUNDRED NINETY TWO WORD SENTENCE a few posts back............ I Would imagine that the Period storage capabilities of his Computer are being stretched real bad right now...... :eek: :D

(The "i" Bin is probably empty though......:p )

[CaptainGonzo]

I'm with Jason. You represent the type of attitude that I'm trying to find in recruits for my Department.


And, Am I the only one who caught that the O.P. created A ONE HUNDRED NINETY TWO WORD SENTENCE a few posts back............ I Would imagine that the Period storage capabilities of his Computer are being stretched real bad right now...... :eek: :D

(The "i" Bin is probably empty though......:p )

As is the "u" and "r" containers! :p

[Sparky79]

This is the OP's post on EMTLife.com

I am a new member on here and i thought this might be a good time to introduce myself, i am 17 years old and my name is Ryan, I have my Firefighting 1 and 2, and i am a first responder, and by the end of this year i will have my EMT-B. I ride out a lot with local fire departments and am currently trying to become an EMT on an ambulance in a neighboring county. I come from a family of police officers, firefighters, and military personnel. I am from Indiana and live in Hamilton county, unfortunately every fire dept. here has there own ambulance so i am attempting to get on an hospital ambulance in the next county over. (Yes, i do know i basically just repeated myself) I love the medical aspect of being a firefighter, i am training hard and studding to become a great FF/EMT. I have recently got my LED Lights on my POV and yes i did go through my chief, and homeland security. I do understand that i have to obey all laws while my lights are on, i also understand that my lights are nothing more then courtesy lights. I am not a freelancer, and i do not listen to the scanner turn my lights on and just go. I only respond to calls if i know that the department needs an extra pair of hands or if for some reason the department can't get there. Also in advance i will apologize if i use such terminology like DRT or DOA which seems to frustrate some people, i am not cold hearted it's just that my local department use that terminology so it is pretty much second nature to me. In case u are wondering y i am explaining myself so much, it is because on a FF forum some individuals got angry at me for alot of reasons, i think it was simply because of my age and they saw me as a little kid. I promise i am responsible and do take my future profession very seriously, i am not in it for the glory, i am in it to help people and make a difference, as well as be there when people need it most. One more thing u probably have noticed that while i type i text as in i use u instead of you and r instead of are and you get the idea. I also do not use correct grammar while typing. I do this because forums are made for typing quickly and getting a point across, forums are not meant for grades (this is not grammar class) reason i mention this is because i got trash talked by alot of FF's on the other forum because of it. Well anyways its great to meet u all and i am looking forward to have in depth discussions about the job as well as anything else that may be brought up.

Apparently he wasn't satisfied with the responses he received here!

Also I find it pretty amazing that 2 days ago on this forum he was a fire explorer in training to be a firefighter, and today on EMTLife he's got his firefighter I+II. WTF?!

[BULL321]

To things i deeply respect u guys and yes i will use text this is a forum if i wanted to use correct grammar i would, but this is a type fast type of communicating, and the amber lights are not a bad idea, oh and no im not in it for the fame and the only reason i posted it in 3 forums was because i wanted to get an answer, for some reason, one of the replys i sent has not been added so i will say it again, i have talked to my chief that is in charge on the local department and he said that it was ok and that he believes that i am responsible enough for the lights, but i have decided myself i don't need the lights and i am not putting lights on my pov, and also for the individual that stated it was illegal for me to have a scanner, it was given to me by the chief so if something does happen in my area i can respond to simply assist, and you have to be 15 to become certified as a first responder in my state. So yes i am certified, and for future reference when u r talking to a explorer or anyone that is attempting to make something of himself and help people don't put them down, but i can't say i didn't expect it. I may be young but i have been around the fire service my whole life. I AM NOT SOME KID THAT WANTS TO PLAY FIREMAN! I want to end this by saying i deeply respect all of u and respect as well as thank you for what u r doing out there, but seriously like one of the post said that i will think that i am the best or whatever, the way u guys r talking makes u sound very arrogant. For the few of u that responded to this post in a positive way i thank you, i also thank you for seeing me as a future firefighter/EMT (maybe Firefighter/PM) i really haven't decided yet lol, but thank you for not seeing me like many other individuals that responded to this post say me. Once again i thank ALL OF U for your service! STAY SAFE!!!!

I think that I just went blind and lost 10 IQ points trying to read this crap.

Stay Safe
Bull

[CaptainGonzo]

This is the OP's post on EMTLife.com



Apparently he wasn't satisfied with the responses he received here!

Also I find it pretty amazing that 2 days ago on this forum he was a fire explorer in training to be a firefighter, and today on EMTLife he's got his firefighter I+II. WTF?!

Wowsers! Alex Yates has returned!

[BULL321]

This is the OP's post on EMTLife.com



Apparently he wasn't satisfied with the responses he received here!

Also I find it pretty amazing that 2 days ago on this forum he was a fire explorer in training to be a firefighter, and today on EMTLife he's got his firefighter I+II. WTF?!

The way he speaks out of both sides of his mouth, maybe he should become a lawyer and then run for president. He is nothing but a punk kid and an out right liar!

Stay Safe
Bull

[rm1524]

That is one hell of a FF I&II that Indiana has. A two day class, think of all the time I wasted sitting in class so many years ago. I could have took a trip east on the weekend and been done with it in a weekend. LMAO.

Saprky - Please tell me you posted his post from here on the other forums.

Bull - Please send me a yard sign for our new president hopeful.

[EastKyFF]

I think Woody is back. W.A.T.W. Fan Club in the Hoouuuuse!

[Firegod343]

i am training hard and studding to become a great FF/EMT.

Man, I remember those days of studding in the Fire Service. Now, I have to keep a bottle of little blue pills around to reminisce. :rolleyes:

FG

[ScooterUMT56]

We all know he's lying to begin with but it's impossible for him to be fire 1 qualified anyway because don't you have to be 18 for a live burn?

[CaptainGonzo]

sparky 79..can you post a link to the thread on emtlife.com? I need a good laugh, and a pup needs a swat on the snout.

[EastKyFF]

This is true, Encyclopedia Brown!

Busted!

[pgfd65]

We all know he's lying to begin with but it's impossible for him to be fire 1 qualified anyway because don't you have to be 18 for a live burn?

I don't want to give this kid any possibility of being honest but you only need to be 16 for a training burn as long as you are with a state fire instructor. That is for NY at least. However, it doesn't matter because this kid was an explorer a few days ago and f/f 1 takes a couple months to complete. I think it's time we all give up on this discussion as it is obvious that the kid lied from the beginning.

[MarcusKspn]

sparky 79..can you post a link to the thread on emtlife.com? I need a good laugh, and a pup needs a swat on the snout.

Here you go: EMTLife Thread (http://emtlife.com/showthread.php?t=15391)

[haligan155]

I wonder why we have grammar class; Maybe because grammar is important? I mean why do we have hose class, we don’t have to operate them properly unless it is a test right?
Man, I know I was this dumb when I was 16, but it sure is hard to admit it!

[rm1524]

hwoods - So good to see you on the emt forums. What a foolish foolish boy.

[Sparky79]

What a foolish foolish boy.

Yep, all he needed to do was come to these forums (Firehouse and EMTLife), treat people with respect, be honest, ask intelligent questions, keep his eyes open and mouth shut, and he could have learned a lot. My issue (and I think most of yours) has nothing to do with age, we were all young and excited about becoming firefighters/EMTs at one point, my issue is with the lack of respect and obvious immaturity he shows not only to the professionals on these forums but also to the general public whom he puts at unnecessary risk with his actions.

If he would step back, accept his position as a student, and learn he would be fine. Instead he lies about his qualifications and acts like he knows it all when in reality he doesn't know his ***** from his elbow.

Here is another one of his posts from EMTLife for your enjoyment, I nearly ****ed myself when I read it!

It sucks that these sort of things have to happen, but it isn't normal to have tragedy after tragedy happen either, and that is petty much our job.

But my worst one was actually last night, we got a call of person not breathing, when we got there we found out the person was a 3 month year old little girl. The grandparents fell asleep with it, and well u can guess what the result was. It wasn't my first, but at the same time you never get use to it.
STAY SAFE!!!!

[MikeWard]

For those of you who did not wander over to EMTLife ...

from RuralEMT

As I am from Indiana I will settle an issue here:

You can begin classes for FR, EMT, mandatoy fire, ect at the age of 17. However, as mentioned before the state will not issue any form of certification until you are 18. Honestly I am quite sure that you can not even start the process of state testing until you are 18 years old. Fire I and II? By the time the state has taken the ridiculously long time to proccess your mandatory fire, and you go through your fire I and II training, you will be lucky if you are not 19 by the time you recieve your certification.

This guy's hero complex is through the roof. Honestly I would be surprised if hes even 16.
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[BULL321]

I would like to thank Sparky79, for tracking this mute down, and bring to light on both forums what a lying tick turd this kid really is. Thanks again, good job.

Stay Safe
Bull

[Tooanfrom]

Gentlemen,please--who really gives a rotund rodents rectum if he covers his "broom-broom" in Christmas lights,plugs the whole lot into the national grid and disappears in a puff of smoke? C'mon hands up

[EastKyFF]

Gentlemen,please--who really gives a rotund rodents rectum if he covers his "broom-broom" in Christmas lights,plugs the whole lot into the national grid and disappears in a puff of smoke? C'mon hands up

Well, there are people who would LOVE that, but they don't frequent a nice family forum like this one.