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Box2565
11-30-2001, 07:00 PM
Hi! You might want to check the Photo Post section on the web site Rescue Net at <a href="http://www.rescue-net.com/" target="_blank">http://www.rescue-net.com/</a> You can post photos of apparatus, fires, stations, etc. at this site. There are many unusual rigs from many parts of the U.S. shown there.
Box2565
12-18-2001, 02:29 AM
Lot's of new pictures on the Rescue-Net web site. ARFF rigs, industrial apparatus, quads, quints, engines, rescues, etc. from many parts of the U.S. Well worth the visit to see such a nice variety of apparatus from different manufacturers and departments.
pafirefighter
12-28-2001, 08:40 AM
The ultimate in interesting can be found in the extreme apparatus section on pafirefighter.net. Other sections include “wild” apparatus graphics<br /><a href="http://www.pafirefighter.net" target="_blank">Pa Firefighter</a>
Box2565
01-31-2002, 10:14 AM
Just bumping this up since it has disappeared into the murky depths of page 2!
fcvfd
01-31-2002, 11:36 AM
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fcvfd
01-31-2002, 11:36 AM
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fcvfd
01-31-2002, 11:37 AM
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fcvfd
01-31-2002, 11:57 AM
All 6 stations have the same engine and a new type of light mast
fcvfd
01-31-2002, 11:57 AM
All 6 engines arehoused with one of these 3
fcvfd
01-31-2002, 11:59 AM
Their neighbors run 7 of these
fcvfd
01-31-2002, 12:05 PM
They follow those 7 with one or more of these packing 6000 feet of 6 inch hose, 3500 gallons of water and a 3500 gpm pump.
fcvfd
01-31-2002, 12:06 PM
Off the shelf 3500 gpm pumpers with 8 inch supply hose and 3000 gallon foam tanks
fcvfd
01-31-2002, 12:07 PM
3500 gpm pump 2000 gallons of foam and a 5000 gpm waterway
Box2565
01-31-2002, 12:07 PM
Hi fcvfd!
Some really interesting photos that you've posted. I'm curious about the last 3 pictures. The FL pumper/tanker, the quints, and the custom pumper tanker. Could you tell us what department(s) they are with, and what the basic specs are (pump/tank/aerial/manufacturer)?
I'll check back later!
Thanks....
fcvfd
01-31-2002, 12:08 PM
Low end rerhab unit.
fcvfd
01-31-2002, 12:12 PM
Pumper 1500/750 series 40 engine, 2000' 5"
Tankers 750/3000 cummins 2000 feet 5" two 3500 drop tanks
Quints 2000 gpm 550 hp 220 cu ft caf 50 gal foam 450 water 2000' 5" full ladders, two monitors, 5 attack lines, turbo draft and 7 foot front hard suction pre-con
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01-31-2002, 12:14 PM
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01-31-2002, 12:18 PM
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fcvfd
01-31-2002, 12:22 PM
Simple in cab kitchen, in every rig in the FD. two 2400 cup per hour coffee makers, instant hot and cold water, two hot plates, Two 1.5 gallon hot beverage holders, microwave, refrig with ice maker that hold 144 cans of soda, 11 gallons in cab drinking water, 21 cubic feet of in cab food storage.
fcvfd
01-31-2002, 12:25 PM
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apatrol
01-31-2002, 12:53 PM
I love this pic!http://www.cypresscreekvfd.com/equipment/night.jpg
fcvfd
01-31-2002, 01:10 PM
SImple quint
fcvfd
01-31-2002, 01:14 PM
12,000 foot 6 inch supply hose wagon, lays four lines at once.
fcvfd
01-31-2002, 01:20 PM
Small and medium size fire hydrant.
fcvfd
01-31-2002, 01:22 PM
Typical 14,000 gpm portable monitor with 10 5 inch inlets and two 4 inch supply lines to recieve 840 gallons of foam concentrate a minute costing $21,000 A MINUTE TO USE.
fcvfd
01-31-2002, 02:35 PM
A wonderful alternative to a freightshaker or cornbinder chassis, a Sterling
fcvfd
01-31-2002, 02:41 PM
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01-31-2002, 03:10 PM
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fcvfd
01-31-2002, 03:32 PM
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LS, you've made a whole bunch of posts in this forums, conveying a lot of information, without ****ing anyone off. Congratulations, and I mean it. Keep it up, and people might actually listen to you BEFORE they get defensive. Your pictures of the sterlings (fords) didn't come through though.
Have you been able to play with the Angus "fetch" system? Does it work? I don't mind having to pick up hose, but 2 1/4 miles of 6" might just wipe me out for the rest of the tour.
fcvfd
01-31-2002, 03:37 PM
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01-31-2002, 03:51 PM
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DonRobbie
01-31-2002, 07:44 PM
I recall Columbus had some Sutphen's on a GM of Chevy cabover chassis with a frontmount pump. What I never could figure out was hw they did the regular srvice on the engine (seems like the pump would limit the cab tilting)
http://www.rescue-net.com/images/nr-sutphen.jpg
This image taken from http://www.rescue-net.com
I have a photo somewhere of Bartlesville, OKs Smeal pumper tanker on a high cabover chassis, I'll post it f I can find it.
HFDCLanger
01-31-2002, 10:29 PM
DCFF:
liquidtrans.com (http://www.liquidtrans.com/)
It is easily adaptable between 4-12" hose, has a retractable hose recovery head, and is already being marketed in the U.S.
There aren't really any good pictures on the site, but I'm sure they would be happy to send you more information: (800)447-5669.
We have already talked with them since we are investigating the use of 6" ourselves.
Berkeley, CA has already put the system in to service.
Angus seems to have a nice system, but they have to launch a good marketing campaign U.S.
fcvfd: I like all the pictures, it's about time we got some good ones on the forums. Are the refinery rigs from Deer Park?
mike021c
02-03-2002, 10:00 PM
http://www.nfco1.freeservers.com/images/021-g.jpg
2001 Pierce Lance. 10 man cab, 1000 gal. water, 30 gal. of class A foam for first and only CAFS in county. Fully equipped for engine and ladder ops.
Dalmatian90
02-04-2002, 12:04 AM
Mortlake Fire Co. 1986 Mack
5000' 5", 1500gpm pump, 30' 6" Squirrel Tail. Hydraulic driven primer primes truck in 10 seconds from 10' draft
http://www.mortlakefire.org/Mortlake/Photos/E190rear.jpg
Oh well, technology goes on...in 10 or 15 years when it's time to replace this truck, hopefully we'll use a Fetch or the system HFD posted above with a conventional bed to allow dual lays. Some turbodrafts, maybe a small squirrel tail so you don't find yourself caught with an empty tank, and a nice 3000gpm pump.
Dalmatian90
02-04-2002, 12:17 AM
Hampton, CT 1996 (?) Spartan/Marion Single Rear Axle
6 man short cab, 1500gpm rear mount pump, 1500 gallon water tank...40,000lb GVW and meets CT's Bridge Law axle weights.
Pumps already weigh less than water for their volume. Putting it on the rear further reduces plumbing needs making it lighter, plus it lets the water tank be positioned further ahead, shifting more of the load to the front axles for better weight distribution. Our '95 Marion with very similiar specs but a midship pump hits bridge law limits at 1200gallon water tank.
http://www.mortlakefire.org/Mortlake/DrillPics/069907.gif
In case your wondering...during this drill our Mack (above) laid a 2500' line and inserted a Humat Hydrant valve at the halfway mark. Line is charged delivering about 1100-1200gpm initially. Another incoming mutual aid pumper like Hampton hooks into the Humat as if it was at a hydrant. No interuption in water supply to insert a pumper, but squeezes another 300gpm out of the lay.
At Hartsfield Int'l Airport, Atlanta...
Will24
02-20-2002, 12:05 AM
What's the last time you saw a 500 cummins powered 4 door FL112 pumper tanker?
http://www.willburns.com/Untitled_Directory/geiger01.jpg
cuffs71
03-03-2002, 09:02 PM
This is a picture of our new Pierce Lance heavy rescue. It will be in service in March. It replaces our 1968(refurbished in 1983) Seagrave.
cuffs71
03-03-2002, 09:14 PM
Our new rescue is in the February 2002 showcase. http://www.firehouse.com/hotshots/apparatus/2002/2/bladesde.html
Mike C
03-03-2002, 11:19 PM
WillB
Hey we are thinking of buying 4 or 5 of your new rig. Can you tell us the loaded weight of the unit?
Man 1800 gallon water tank, big hose bed, generator, seating for 5. What did you pay for it? 1250 pump. How big is the motor? New lexington is due here the 17th with a proposal.
What would you have changed if you did it again?
We are considering the following:
To new Lexington:
CHANGES
*Cab controlled 15 KW Hydraulic pto generator instead of gen set with hot shift.
*Four 2000 watt FRC floods on FRC non-adjustable under aerial brackets one above windshield, one each side of cab roof and one rear facing on back of rig. Flood light controls in cab labeled Front, Rear, Driver and Officer.
*1500 gpm DSD pump with stainless plumbing, fullpump and roll
*Eliminate all 12 volt scene lights.
*No rear discharge
*What is an automatic tank fill?????? MAYBE YOU CAN TELL US WHAT THAT IS.
*Eliminate pull out steps all around the rig.
*No in hose bed compartment for ladders and drop tank … become more 5” hose bed, ideally 2500 feet in split bed of 5” with hose bed going all the way to the body sides. Two hose bed dividers.
*No folding steps use side pool ladder instead.
*Drop tank 3500 gallons on drivers side Zico rack in lieu of hard suction with three pike poles on top.
*Two 3” squirrel tail Kochek flexible suctions 20 feet long n trays mounted above the ground ladders hooked to a pair of 2 ½” gated suctions with exterior thread on NST valves both to rear of pump, with low lift foot valve strainer attached to each suction line for 15 second drafting without using the primer and while supplying attack lines off tank water.
*Air horns on fenders.
*75 (in lieu of water as needed) gallon foam tank.
*Robwen Model 500 Hydro Flo foam system plumbed to attack lines and deck gun via manifold and just one foam pickup supplying all.
*Front and rear FDNY look down fisheye mirrors.
*Turbo Draft (www.turbodraft.net) preconnect on tail board.
*Meyers Quick drop (sold by Neidner fire hose) to lay hose with Carlin Valve automatically from the cab.
*Zico ladder rack with 10 foot folding ladder and long pike poles on top.
*Four Large water level lights on the left and right side of the rig.
*Rear vision camera with LCD display and talk back.
*Shorten roof and extension ladder to fit body sides.
*Akron Black Max valve on each side with 5” storz fittings in lieu of MIVs.
*Move cross lays to back of cab and to top of pump, no preconnect valves, hook attack lines directly to water thiefs on each side panel. Two 300 foot 1 ¾”, one 300’ 3 inch and one 300 foot 1” bed. Bring crosslay beds out all the way to running boards. Leave room between dividers for nozzles on end. To allow one firefighter loading.
*Front bumper water transfer preconnect on a extended bumper with trough for two 50 foot 2 ½” donut rolls , 150 feet of 1” hose and a front water thief.
*Dead space under cross lays to frame rails on each side for four 1 ¾” donut roll preconnects with swing doors over hose loads.
*Dunnage area to hold hydraulic generator and the 220 volt extrication tool simul-pump.
*Space under cab steps to hold:
-Three 150 foot manual rewind cord reels 12 gauge, 3 conductor
electrical cable installed on the reel with a Tele-Lite model PR portable quartz light base shall be supplied and mounted as directed Mounted to base shall be a Kwik-Raze model 27 Alpha 2000 750 with an on/off switch on the light head. Light shall include a model PB-103 portable light mounting base. Base of light shall include an outlet with weatherproof cover and recessed plug. The cord reel shall be pre- plumbed to the generator.
-One 100 foot manual hydraulic extrication reel plumbed hot to the
hydraulic pump on each side with a bracket to hold a pre-connected
cutter on one side and a spreader on the other. Provide remote
diverter valve controls. On/off switch for pump in cab.
-Air reel 150 feet of 3/8 inch hose supplied off the vehicle air brakes and shall be equipped with a manual crank rewind system. A tray shall hold a preconnected air chisel and four 20 ton air bags, carrying chain, two 16 foot hoses and controller.
*SMART GOLD Style reflective lettering shall be provided. Four 12" x 18" removable aluminum lettering panel with aluminum
bracket shall be provided. Bracket shall be constructed from
smooth plate 1/8" aluminum. Lettering panel shall be
constructed from 1/8" smooth plate aluminum and slide into
bracket.
*Pump panel:
-Two FRC EDGE governors one each side.
-3” exterior ball valve on officer side with 5” adapter
-Two Elkhart water thiefs on each side on ungated discharges.
-No drains
-1200 gpm Fire Pro monitor with top mounted swing type gate valve and auto drain and automatic nozzle.
-Power tank to pump with controls on each pump panel
-Power 3 inch tank filler with controls on each pump panel
-Primer control on each side pump panel
-No tank to pump check valve 4 inch tank suction
-Foam panel, percent all other controls behind panel, foam supply always open, no need to flush.
Stainless diamond plate versus aluminum.
CollegeBuff
03-04-2002, 02:38 AM
Sounds like a Stevens Special!!! ;) :D ;) :D
Will24
04-12-2002, 12:44 AM
coming back from the dead... this is for mike
The truck weighs 44,000 loaded with 1800. It has 800ft. 5" 500' 3" 1200' preconnected 1 3/4" etc. If we didn't have the foldatank and hard sleeve below the hose bed we could probably easily do 2000+ feet like our engine has. Also, if you go with an FL112, GET THE PULL OUT STEPS! they are a godsend, I am 6'2" and I use them ALL THE TIME!
-Will
FirefighterDan
04-12-2002, 11:17 AM
These pictures you are showing are nice and all, but the only truck there is, is the quint with Blue! Oh man how can you people stand all Red/Amber/Clear?????? Add some blue and add some life!
Stay Safe
davidhwebb
04-14-2002, 03:57 PM
Oldie, but goodie...
1968 Dodge Power Wagon
www.saltsburgvfd.org
davidhwebb
04-14-2002, 04:13 PM
Eureka Fire-Rescue-EMS
Tarentum, PA
Rescue Squad 125
e-mail: eureka@salsgiver.com
Comm35
04-19-2002, 02:41 PM
Originally posted by dhw01
Oldie, but goodie...
1968 Dodge Power Wagon
www.saltsburgvfd.org :D
1967 Dodge "W300" Power Wagon
Military Issue Bought NEW with only 26000 miles
500 gpm pump
250 gallon tank
10,000 pound P.T.O. winch
Carries Class A Foamhttp://wagontownfire.com Click on Brush 35
CAPN22
04-19-2002, 07:34 PM
TIMBERLINE FERNWOOD AZ
CAPN22
04-19-2002, 07:37 PM
EAST SIDE WA
CAPN22
04-19-2002, 07:39 PM
TIPTON PA
CAPN22
04-19-2002, 07:43 PM
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CAPN22
04-19-2002, 07:46 PM
CALGARY AB CAN
CAPN22
04-19-2002, 07:55 PM
SMOKEY SERIES Oil Field Fire Fighting.
2500 gpm 1500 gallons 250 foam. 1500lb dry chem. 6 man D-con shower, Tank water and pump heated to withstand -35 temps at 65 mph.
gilamonster
11-26-2003, 02:12 AM
Who makes it? Where can I get info on it?
Be Safe and grow old.
Bulldog
11-26-2003, 09:03 PM
Gila:
The truck you're asking about is especially designed for fire fighting in one of the long tunnels in the Alps (I forget which one). It's designed that way so if everything goes to HE............. you just get in the other end and drive out instead of having to turn around or back out. If I remember correctly it also has a pressurized cab to keep smoke and fumes out and has a foam system!
Jay911
11-27-2003, 03:53 AM
Here's some of ours - they're not terribly striking visually, but every one was built and refurbished by our department members, then certified by both the government (i.e. roadworthiness) and the local fire apparatus manufacturer.
50 Pump
http://www.redwoodmeadows.ab.ca/fire/images/50-pump-1.jpg
1993 Navistar 4900, 1000 gallons, 1050 gpm pump
Cab/Chassis bought new
Aluminum fire body swapped off older 1985 rig
50 Engine
http://www.redwoodmeadows.ab.ca/fire/images/50engine-5.jpg
1976 Hendrickson Super Pumper, 700 gallons, 1750 gpm pump, 54' Squrt tower
Cab/Chassis bought from Calgary Fire Department - most recent use as #27 Pump (South station of the Calgary International Airport)
Aluminum fire body swapped off older 1985 rig and cut to fit the Squrt
Squrt device swapped off older 1986 rig formerly in use by Syncrude refinery in Fort McMurray, AB
50 Tank
http://www.redwoodmeadows.ab.ca/fire/images/50tank-2.jpg
1986 Ford C8000, 2500 gallons, 500 gpm pump
Cab/Chassis bought at auction, former City of Calgary garbage truck
Tanker unit bought at auction, former Esso home oil heating tanker
Fire service body/compartments and 500gpm PTO (pump and roll) pump added by Superior Emergency Vehicles.
Jay911
11-27-2003, 04:01 AM
50 Rescue
http://www.redwoodmeadows.ab.ca/fire/images/50-rescue-1.jpg
1996 Road Rescue E350 ambulance, written off by Calgary EMS, refurbished by RMES
Carries medical equipment as well as vehicle rescue and some technical rescue equipment.
50 Bush Buggy
http://www.redwoodmeadows.ab.ca/fire/images/50bb-10.jpg
1990 GMC 2500 pickup with new fire service body. Designed by RMES staff to fight brush fires as well as carry additional rescue, forcible entry, and scene safety equipment, the latter of which allows it to cover crews working on high-speed roadways. Also has 300 gallons of water and a 150gpm portable pump.
--j.
ff7134
11-27-2003, 03:06 PM
FirefighterDan,
In Ohio the only vehicle allowed to display Blue lights are Vehicles for Law Enforcement use IE the Cops. So our stuff is all Red and White with some Amber.
k1500chevy97
11-28-2003, 10:08 PM
Originally posted by ff7134
FirefighterDan,
In Ohio the only vehicle allowed to display Blue lights are Vehicles for Law Enforcement use IE the Cops. So our stuff is all Red and White with some Amber.
Ditto WA also
k1500chevy97
11-28-2003, 10:18 PM
Originally posted by Jay911
50 Bush Buggy
http://www.redwoodmeadows.ab.ca/fire/images/50bb-10.jpg
1990 GMC 2500 pickup with new fire service body. Designed by RMES staff to fight brush fires as well as carry additional rescue, forcible entry, and scene safety equipment, the latter of which allows it to cover crews working on high-speed roadways. Also has 300 gallons of water and a 150gpm portable pump.
--j. [/B]
Are you sure this is a 2500 or is it a 3500 as far as i know gm did not make 2500 duallys and only 3500 and 3500hd had dual rear wheels
Nice rig though we got a few like that here but we recently started switching our brush units over to ford 550s :)
heres sort of a pic of one of our older GM 3500 4x4s
http://photos.imageevent.com/k1500chevy97/fireapparatuspicture/websize/IM000983.JPG
k1500chevy97
11-28-2003, 10:24 PM
Heres a goodie for intresting apparatus ...
An old army ammo carrier converted for our wildland firefighting use
has a water and foam tank with its own pump
http://photos.imageevent.com/k1500chevy97/fireapparatuspicture/websize/IM000927.JPG
http://photos.imageevent.com/k1500chevy97/fireapparatuspicture/websize/IM001045.JPG
http://photos.imageevent.com/k1500chevy97/fireapparatuspicture/websize/IM001042.JPG
http://photos.imageevent.com/k1500chevy97/fireapparatuspicture/websize/IM001069.JPG
Jay911
11-28-2003, 10:31 PM
You're right - my bad. Sorry. I'm not a Chevy man, and I confused the 2500/3500 designation with something else. :o
--j.
Weruj1
11-30-2003, 12:02 AM
just when you thought you had seen it all .............what an intersting vehicle. How often does it get used ? need to Lowboyed to scene ? how much water does it carry ?>
k1500chevy97
11-30-2003, 02:53 AM
Originally posted by Weruj1
just when you thought you had seen it all .............what an intersting vehicle. How often does it get used ? need to Lowboyed to scene ? how much water does it carry ?>
700 gallon water tank , it gets to the scene by lowboy just like our dozers , and it gets used well depends on how busy the wildland season is this year i think it got used on 20-25 fires
It even has a small dozer style blade in the front
Really comes in handy on fires like this ......
http://photos.imageevent.com/k1500chevy97/fireapparatuspicture/websize/1_DSC00036.JPG
gilamonster
12-02-2003, 01:28 PM
Thanks bulldog, but I was refering to those freaky lookin airport trucks. Sorry for not being specific, my bad. Those things look like they belong in a Robocop movie. Anyone know who builds them ?
That does'nt look like Hartsfield to me.
It looks like those are the engines in the rear bogie.
Sure look wierd.
Stay safe and grow old.
btrotta
12-09-2003, 12:07 PM
Those are the Jaguar KR-40 rapid intervention vehicles.
From the Atlanta FD website:
The KR-40 is a rapid intervention vehicle that carries 4000 gallons of water and 250 gallons of AFFF. Both vehicles carry sizable amounts of "Purple K" Potassium Bi-Carbonate. Each of the Airport Fire Stations contains a K-15 and a KR-40. Because speed is a valuable resource on any crash truck, both the K- 15 and KR-40 have top speeds of over 100 mph.
They're made by Colet. and can be viewed at:
http://www.coletsvd.com/jaguarseries/kr40.htm
usonian
12-11-2003, 04:43 PM
At first glance, St. Paul's new Spartan/Custom Fire Heavy Rescue rigs look like a standard walkthrough, but they actually have a rear-mounted 750gpm pump and 500 gallon tanks.
usonian
12-11-2003, 04:49 PM
Crew cabs have long been a necessity here in Minnesota (the Minneapolis FD had 4 door enclosed pumpers dating back to the '40's).
In the 1960's, when the StPFD switched over to their long running Ford/General Safety orders, they pioneered the "Telephone Booth" crew cab, which became popular on General Safety apparatus throughout the Upper Midwest (General's literature even called it the "St. Paul Cab").
Here is St. Paul's Engine 5 (1988 Ford/Custom Fire) showing its "Telephone Booth" cab
usonian
12-11-2003, 04:51 PM
Custom Fire Apparatus (and General Safety) began offering the "Full Response Cab" in the late 1980's.
St. Paul began specifying this cab with their orders beginning with this batch of 1992 Ford/Custom Fire rigs:
usonian
12-11-2003, 05:02 PM
St. Paul has 5 Squrt/Telesqurt pumpers.
The latest is this 1997 Ford/Toyne...the only Snozzle & only Toyne on the roster (note Toyne's full response/telephone booth cab):
http://www.toyne.com/deliveries/images/stpaul.jpg
usonian
12-11-2003, 05:35 PM
Many people are familiar with the Revell model kit of the Peterbilt/General Safety pumper.
Those rigs were the beginning of a major trend here in the Upper Midwest. Throughout the '90's to today, both Custom Fire and General Safety have built numerous rigs on Peterbilt chassis with their unmistakable Full Response enclosed cabs.
Here are jus a couple:http://www.mapleplain.com/FireDept/images/trucks/pete.jpg
http://www.ci.golden-valley.mn.us/publicsafety/images/station2.gif
Box2565
03-10-2004, 01:00 AM
I liked this simply becuase of the front mount pump.
Crystal River FL
1994 Freightliner/Southern Coach
1000 GPM - 750 Tank - Rescue
1000's of apparatus photos, odd color combinations, old and new, Ahrens-Fox to Zabek at:
Youngstown Fire Message Board (http://www.youngstownfire.com/phpbb/index.php).
SwampBox
03-16-2004, 11:36 PM
This isn't a pumper but thought you might like to see it. It's a 1945 Army DUKW. Used for times of flooding and the like. It doesn't get used very often anymore. Maybe once or twice every ten years. It is fully operational.http://www.reservevfd.com/dukw.jpg
firechiefkev
03-17-2004, 12:45 PM
Usonian,
Where I come from, we call those "Pope Mobiles"......
Weruj1
03-19-2005, 11:34 PM
bump
dwwm2c4
03-25-2005, 08:44 PM
Originally posted by Will24
What's the last time you saw a 500 cummins powered 4 door FL112 pumper tanker?
http://www.willburns.com/Untitled_Directory/geiger01.jpg
Well actually, she doesnt have 4 doors or a cummins motor but, she does have a 28" "day" cab with raised roof and a 525 Cat motor:D
dwwm2c4
03-25-2005, 08:46 PM
2000 pump with 1500 water and 30 gal class A foam
NobbiUSA
04-02-2005, 01:05 PM
Hi folks!
I'm a big fan of U.S. fire engines and saw a lot of cool pics in this thread.
I would be very glad if some of you could submit some photos for my emergency vehicle gallery.
More information here:
http://cms.firehouse.com/forums2/showthread.php?postid=515719#p ost515719
Greetings from Germany,
Tobias
fdmhbozz
04-02-2005, 03:20 PM
Just a note about Custom Fire...
The owner of Custom Fire is a former employee of General. CFA was incorporated in 1978.
The term Full Response Cab is a trademark of Custom Fire Apparatus, and was introduced in 1982.
npfd801
04-02-2005, 11:30 PM
I'll take this one step further:
The owner of Custom Fire, and the owner of General (yes, it is still owned by family with some control/investment by Rosenbauer) shared a common ancestor (father/grandfather). The owner of Custom, I suspect - was more than an employee at General though I don't know for sure.
General Safety history (http://www.rosenbaueramerica.com/AboutUs/RosenbauerAmerica/GeneralSafetyDivision/Index.cfm)
Custom Fire history (http://www.customfire.com/history.html)
There is a common Kirvida in there, grandfather or father to the ownership of both companies.
The two plants are less than 30 miles apart. You never know that there was a relationship between the two companies, as I think they each do things in a totally different way. Bozz is a big fan of Custom, I'm really liking General right now - and I know there are other builders out there much worse than either.
fdmhbozz
04-03-2005, 01:38 AM
Yes, I am a big fan of Custom. I guess being raised on their product will do that to a person.
It would appear that Jim Kirvida and Kevin Kirvida are brothers, but I might be mistaken.
I think this little quote from Wayde Kirvida (Jim's son) explains my thoughts on fire apparatus: "There's roughly 5,000 trucks sold each year, and three or four companies build about half of those. So the competition for the rest of the trucks is high. I envy the larger builders for the glamour. But I don't like what happens to the quality as they get larger."
bigjim1301
04-03-2005, 05:22 PM
Jim and Kevin Kirvida are brothers. They both started at General Safety when it was smaller and located in North Branch, Minnesota. At that time their late father, Mitch, was running the company. (The finest man in the business, ever). They split up many years ago and Jim created Custom Fire.
Rescue101
04-03-2005, 07:30 PM
Rosenbauer has "some"interest in General. Yes they do,and I believe that would be "controlling" interest.Same as Central and RK.Haven't seen a Custom built unit but I wouldn't mind. T.C.
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