Here is another WWYD ?

[Weruj1]

Here is what you see when you pull up.............not a Haz-Mat....

[FDWhitey]

Upon arrival I would go home sick! LOL

First, determine number of pt,injuries and pt location.
I would call for a heavy duty tow truck...

Plan A:

Side-out on the passanger side of vehicle if there is enough room between the vehicle and the rear tires of the cab. This would most likely give you the best access.

Plan B:

Depending on the amount of roof damage, ram the roof as much as possible and tunnel through the rear of the vehicle.

Either way this will be a time and man-power consuming task. If you can get the tow truck there quickly...lifting the rear of the trailer and pulling the vehicle out from under it would be the easiest. Then it is a roof removal.

This mvc would be a challenge for anyone!

Whitey

[Weruj1]

another view..........

[FDWhitey]

Well, by the look of the vehicle, I'd say the driver climbed out of the rear window. Or, was extricated through the rear window. I think I stil would have gone with the side-out or you could do a partial roof removal and take the pt out from the top. You might even be able to get good access to the pt with a simple door removal.

Whitey

[fdnyvet]

The first thing to do would be to chock the wheels of the tractor and trailer with big enough chocks on the drivers side of the truck. Next would be to crib the car on the drivers side. Send in medic through rear window to make good PT contact.
Remove the rear passenger side door, remove front passenger side door. If need be remove B post passenger side. Slide out PT.

Plan B is a liitle more involved if plan A is not an option. Chock the wheels of the tractor and trailer drivers side, crib the car with box cribbing on the drivers side. Then build a box crib under the trailer passenger side to use as platform for high pressure air bags. Air bag trailer, and then work the car from the drivers side.

[firenresq77]

Well, first I would see what city it's in. Since this picture is from an MVA in my fair city, I would walk over to the police cruiser (or wherever the pt. was)to talk to the him/her and have them sign the AMA.

This was the second of this same scenario for us in probably the last 6 months on Interstate 75, and a 3rd one was on a 4 lane road. No major injuries in any of them. We've come to the conclusion that there is a big bubble over our city and also the neighboring jurisdiction when it comes to MVAs on the Interstate.......

[firenresq77]

Here is a picture of the other one on the Interstate........
http://www.northwoodfire.com/Scene%20Photos/NEON5.JPG

[firenresq77]

Check out these links and you will see where our bubble comes into play..........

Rollover (http://www.northwoodfire.com/Scene%20Photos/13Marchmva.html)

Other Scenes (http://www.northwoodfire.com/Scene%20Photos/Scene%20Photos.html)

[lutan1]

Now knowing what Grandmaster101 has taught me with BRR, I'd put a block of hardwood under the fifth wheel and use a Heavy Salvage Tow Truck on the front of the prime mover and lift it up, then using either a winch or another tow truck (standard one this time), pull out the car from under the trailer....

Extricate as you would for any other car on it's wheels;)

[Rescue101]

Good call Luke,but this one's even easier.See how the car is nearer the frt axle of the trailer than the tractor?Block/chock the tractor wheels and airbag the right side of the trailer axle.Something in the area of a 12-18"lift SHOULD free the car.Roll it out from under the trailer and continue with a normal extrication.The red car in the next shot is a bit more challenge.It's hard against the trailer x but could be done in similar fashion.Expect to see more of these as the intelligence level continues to rise on our nations highways.To those who have yet to sponsor/attend a BRR class;ARE YOU READY? T.C.

[WTFD10]

My plan would be to stabilize the trailer and the car, remove both right side doors and the B pillar.



Originally posted by firenresq77
Check out these links and you will see where our bubble comes into play..........

Rollover (http://www.northwoodfire.com/Scene%20Photos/13Marchmva.html)

There was such a great initital response from the WTFD Whacker Patrol on that one, there wasn't much left for E9 to do let alone you guys. :p

[Bones42]

Oh, this brings back memories...happened back in 1993. 2 girls in car drove under a 18 wheeler backing into a side street, about 3 am. The trailer was loaded with The Commodores band equipment. Passenger climbed out of car and sat on curb, driver scrunched down at last second and got stuck under steering wheel - had very minor injuries. 1 Big tow truck, 1 standard tow truck (had to wait 45mins for big truck). Built a cribbing tower at back end of trailer, disconnected tractor and had big tow truck lift front end of trailer. Let the air out of the tires and little tow truck pulled car from under trailer (with some help disentangling metal). Then it was a simple roof removal.

[Rescue101]

Why ANYONE who has ever worked around a tractor-trailer would pull the pin(unhook)on an accident of this type just mystifies me.What has more strength to lift against,that spidery little landing gear or 4 22.5 tires attached to a big steel frame with two big pins holding a plate designed to pull/carry over 150,000 pounds?Just lift the trailer,remove the casualty and when it's over the truck drives away.No rehooking,no wasted time,just drive away.Same with rollover recovery,recover the unit AS A UNIT.Pulling the pin just causes problems,plain and simple.Lots of good ideas being batted around here,I prefer to move the causualty from under the truck to work it, some of you may be more "comfortable"working UNDER a truck.As long as the outcome is favorable,it matters little how the job is accomplished.But new approaches can and will make your jobs a bit easier.T.C.