Nice ride Northwood

[WTFD10]

Your temporary replacement for 806 looks pretty good. How is it?

[firenresq77]

Originally posted by WTFD10
Your temporary replacement for 806 looks pretty good. How is it?

Well, we can't mount equipment, have to hook our radio up via the cigarette plug, brakes take a while to get used to and stink like crazy. Will get up and go, but it takes a lil bit just because it shifts through the gears quick. It does turn excellent though. Still not sure the size of tank on it. Pump is very loud when it is throttled up.

It's not too bad. It runs and will work for the daytime crew. I'd like to see how she works on a fire. (Since we finally got to use the Mini-Pumper last week on our fully-involved mattress fire)

Moe, don't it look like a tanker???????

[WTFD10]

A little bit. I think it's a cool truck. 730 liked it too.

Anybody gonna have it at Station 2 tonight? I'd like to get a closer look.

[firenresq77]

I doubt it. Will be around all day tomorrow, putting in the radio. Also, I am working on Thursday, so will be around all day.......

[NFD159]

Moe, don't it look like a tanker???????

I think so too!

I don't like it. It's gonna suck if we have to keep it for a long time. There's no generator or outlets, no rear discharges, no air horns, and if we can't mount anything on it, the compartments will be a mess. The SCBA's have to be kept in there cases, and put in a side compartment.

'77 have you figured out what kind of shore plug that is?

No stereo either, how am I gonna listen to Bob and Tom in the mornings?

I guess it's better than nothing and it is brand new. I guess will see.

[firenresq77]

Originally posted by NFD159
Moe, don't it look like a tanker???????

I think so too!

I don't like it. It's gonna suck if we have to keep it for a long time. There's no generator or outlets, no rear discharges, no air horns, and if we can't mount anything on it, the compartments will be a mess. The SCBA's have to be kept in there cases, and put in a side compartment.

'77 have you figured out what kind of shore plug that is?

No stereo either, how am I gonna listen to Bob and Tom in the mornings?

I guess it's better than nothing and it is brand new. I guess will see.

It's a goofy shoreline plug....... that's what it is.

I just talked to 103 and we are going to have to contact them tomorrow to make sure that is the intent of it. If so, we'll have to make a pigatil to plug into the shoreline to use........

Maybe we can use that bracket in the center of the seat for the SCBA?!?!?!:D :D

[NFD159]

I could be wrong, but I don't think it has AC either.:(

[firenresq77]

Originally posted by NFD159
I could be wrong, but I don't think it has AC either.:(

It does have AC. I was using it today on my travels in it. Lack of power windows and locks sucks, also.........

And I've been thinking about the lack of Stereo init......... I wonder if one of our peoples' kids have one of them lil boom box looking things that are kinda small and can maybe be velcored to the dash........ How about one of your, 159??? And no Hello Kitty, either!!!!

[WTFD10]

Originally posted by firenresq77
And no Hello Kitty, either!!!!

How about the Powerpuff Girls :p

[Weruj1]

I saw "it" today form a distance and wondered what it was .......then I got wind it was the loaner from the produce stand (a fresher lemon). Definetly boxy .............but a goodtime for a websirte update ! .......the new 806 "ALS pumper /tanker" ! That Chief was smart to get 3 vehicles in one ! YEAH YEAH !

[WTFDChief730]

I like it, the only thing is the two person cab, what the heck is two guys going to do with a truck that big. If it had a four man cab that would be great. I like it better than the mini-pumper only if it had a four man cab, I'm not a mini-pumper fan anyway. It does look like a tanker, maybe you guys can start a new ALS Rescue-Tanker concept like the Rescue-Engine.

How do you guys utilize that unit anyway? How will it respond and to what type calls.

[firenresq77]

Originally posted by WTFDChief730
How do you guys utilize that unit anyway? How will it respond and to what type calls.

It responds to all calls in the city M-F 0800-1700. On EMS runs, initiate pt. care until your transport unit arrives. On fire runs, use your common sense. If it's something small (i.e. car fire, dumpster, outdoor, etc.) start extinguishment/containment and use the volunteer back-up as needed. If it's a structure, just do what you have to do. Lay supply line, get SCBA on, pull attack lines, be ready to start attack when your next in arrives. If people trapped, do what you gotta do.

As bad as it sounds, much of it will depend on the crew and their confidence in their ability to make the decisions on what they can and cannot handle on their own.

[ff7134]

Well lets see some pics...I have to see this tanker-Rescue concept:D

[PFD109NFD107]

The other thing we have to eventually think about is placement of ALS equipment in the winter months. I assume it doesn't have heated compartments.

As far as the "boombox" goes I have bring one on Thurday.

I agree that the two-person cab is not ideal. I suppose I am in the minority but I like the mini-pumper concept (as long as you can get a mini-pumper that works).

[firenresq77]

Originally posted by PFD109NFD107
The other thing we have to eventually think about is placement of ALS equipment in the winter months. I assume it doesn't have heated compartments.

As far as the "boombox" goes I have bring one on Thurday.

I agree that the two-person cab is not ideal. I suppose I am in the minority but I like the mini-pumper concept (as long as you can get a mini-pumper that works).

No heated compartment. Hopefully they will decide what they are going to do and get us one that works before it gets too cold.

I like the IDEA of a mini-pumper, but they just can't handle the weight for what we are doing with it. I still say we get an urban-interface type unit........

[mvbn001]

So ... where is this beast? I'd like to check it out next time I'm in the area.

[firenresq77]

It is housed out of Station #1 near I-75. Hopefully I will be able to get a pic taken soon and post it on here........

[NFD159]

It looks a lot like this:

[NFD159]

Too bad it dosen't look like this:

[firenresq77]

Originally posted by NFD159
It looks a lot like this:

It doesn't just look a lot like that......... It IS that truck. Had to go and look at it on their site, but that is the truck. I guess we know how big the tank is now.........

Nice job doin the searchin, 159!!

[firenresq77]

Originally posted by NFD159
Too bad it dosen't look like this:

Why couldn't they give us one of those?????? Maybe we'll have see if we can get the specs and check one of them out........

[WTFD10]

Just keep the one you've got and put some tailboard straps on it. You'll be all set.

You workin' tonight 77?

[firenresq77]

Yes I am, Moe. Unfortunately........

[firenresq77]

ffsmromstadt13 printed off the second one and he wrote "Repaint the white areas red, and put a city patch on the door and we'll take it." Believe it's going in the Chief's mailbox. I left him a voicemail to call me. We'll see if he calls me back.

[Fire40man]

Bad luck with the New rig, Radiator leak yesterday, and the roll up door alarm keep going off. Maybe the 3rd vehicle is the charm.

[firenresq77]

Originally posted by Fire40man
Bad luck with the New rig, Radiator leak yesterday, and the roll up door alarm keep going off. Maybe the 3rd vehicle is the charm.

It's a shame the 806.5 replacement truck is back in service. So much for trying to get the other one to utilize.....:mad: :(

[NFD159]

Just wanted to let everyone know the rescue/pumper/tanker is gone.

The original lemon mobile is back!!:rolleyes:

[Weruj1]

WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!! its back ? is it fixed ? er .....no no .........is it running ?

[firenresq77]

Well, I think I'll hold off on lettin everyone know the plan for now. At least until something is in writing


**EDIT**
Sorry, was busy when typing this the first time.

Yes, the Mini is back for now, but there is a plan in place on what is going to happen, but I think it might be best if we wait until we have it in writing what is going to happen.

[Weruj1]

so is it functional ?

[firenresq77]

Originally posted by Weruj1
so is it functional ? So far...... We'll see how long it lasts.....

[WTFD10]

159 pointed out the fresh lemon scent that was in the air at Station 2 this morning.

Good luck on the plans for this, hope it works out for the best for you guys.

[firenresq77]

Originally posted by WTFD10
Good luck on the plans for this, hope it works out for the best for you guys.

I'll keep my fingers and toes crossed, but, just like our new fire station, I'll believe it when I see it....... or at least some substantial progress....

[NFD159]

so is it functional ?

So far...... We'll see how long it lasts.....

Not very long it's broke again. alternator blew AGAIN! :mad:

[firenresq77]

Originally posted by NFD159




Not very long it's broke again. alternator blew AGAIN! :mad:

Yep. New alternator was delivered to the city today by UPS. We'll see when it gets put in and by who........

[NFD159]

Maybe we can get ARMS to install it.:D

[firenresq77]

Originally posted by NFD159
Maybe we can get ARMS to install it.:D
LOL!!:eek: :p

[Weruj1]

if ARMS did that, it might expedite the "option" already on the table ? ..........and thanks for using Hilljack Mobile Generators !

[ff7134]

Don't get me started on ARMS!!!:mad:

[firenresq77]

Originally posted by ff7134
Don't get me started on ARMS!!!:mad:

That's funny, that you've had issues with them, too!!

[ff7134]

Lack of Service and other things is why we didn't buy a Luverne!

[PFD109NFD107]

I talked to Jerry today out here in the big city. He said we are up to alternator #8. I wonder what the record is?

[firenresq77]

Actually, I believe that was #8 that just blew. #9 is getting installed now.

As for ARMS, we had some issues with them installing our Hydraulic Generator. We weren't very happy at all with them...........

[NFD159]

I talked to Jerry today out here in the big city. He said we are up to alternator #8. I wonder what the record is?

Actually, I believe that was #8 that just blew. #9 is getting installed now.

Well, that one blew also, so now we are in double digits!

[firenresq77]

Originally posted by NFD159




Well, that one blew also, so now we are in double digits!

And what's even better is that 159 just burnt up #10 a little bit ago, so we're on #11!! What's the lucky number is going to be???

FYI.......... We picked up the truck on June 12, 2003........ Is it bad to go through that many alternators in a LIFETIME of a truck, much less a YEAR?!??!

[Weruj1]

uhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm IS THERE ANYONE ALIVE ? it has been almost a week since anyone posted here ..............

[firenresq77]

806 is actually still running!!!!

[Weruj1]

could be on a........................ nope nope .not gonna say it .

[firenresq77]

We'll put her to the test again tomorrow.......... Me and Fire40man and Pony Boy.......

[bhedick]

hello fellow ohioans!


just dropped in to say hi, i'm in the process of hopefully joining a vol. department near me, i find these forums very useful. thanks.

[firenresq77]

Originally posted by bhedick
hello fellow ohioans!


just dropped in to say hi, i'm in the process of hopefully joining a vol. department near me, i find these forums very useful. thanks. Welcome to the forums and good luck in joining a FD........ Pay attention here and you will learn a lot......

[PFD109NFD107]

It should run as long as sleepy and the cop aren't the ones responsible for filling the tank with fuel.:p

[firenresq77]

Originally posted by PFD109NFD107
It should run as long as sleepy and the cop aren't the ones responsible for filling the tank with fuel.:p Now THAT is hilarious!!!!!!!!

[NFD159]

It should run as long as sleepy and the cop aren't the ones responsible for filling the tank with fuel.

Hey, we made it to a gas station. It isn't my fault they were closed!:D

[firenresq77]

Originally posted by NFD159


Hey, we made it to a gas station. It isn't my fault they were closed!:D You should have known better than to listen to the cops!!!!!!!!:p ;)

[PFD109NFD107]

Originally posted by NFD159


Hey, we made it to a gas station. It isn't my fault they were closed!:D

A good skipper should know when the gas station closes.

[Fire40man]

Yeah, but sleepy doesn't like to pay $2.58 for gas either. (tight *****)

[firenresq77]

Originally posted by Fire40man
Yeah, but sleepy doesn't like to pay $2.58 for gas either. (tight *****) He better get used to it with the new truck and the Hemi........

[Weruj1]

is it still running ..........?and where is everybody ?

[PFD109NFD107]

It is quite since 77' has left the state. Is he stiring things up on the Georgia forums?

[RspctFrmCalgary]

and where is everybody ?

Hey Joshieeeeeeeeeeeeeee, BOO!!!! :D :cool:

Joel, are you saying Brian has a big mouth and the only way to shut him up is send him on an out-of-state holiday??!! hehehe *snicker* :p ;) :D Oh I'm sure I'll pay for that when he gets back

[Weruj1]

you guys are being kinda rough on a guy who isnt even here to defend his outa state self ............man .......:D

[PFD109NFD107]

Originally posted by Weruj1
you guys are being kinda rough on a guy who isnt even here to defend his outa state self ............man .......:D


....and you darn well he is just the kind of guy to do a sneak attack on you... especially when you are on a lunch break.....

[RspctFrmCalgary]

Originally posted by PFD109NFD107



....and you darn well he is just the kind of guy to do a sneak attack on you... especially when you are on a lunch break.....

Talking from experience? :D :p

[PFD109NFD107]

Originally posted by RspctFrmCalgary


Talking from experience? :D :p


No but I believe Weruj1 has had some experience with '77 backdooring him.

[RspctFrmCalgary]

Ohhhhhhhh sure ;)

Comments, Joshie???? :D

[firenresq77]

Wow!! All this while I was gone. I guess it just shows that I'm loved after all!!!

[RspctFrmCalgary]

LMFAO!

Welcome back. Have a good time?

[firenresq77]

Originally posted by RspctFrmCalgary
LMFAO!

Welcome back. Have a good time?

Yep. It was good to get away for a few days.

[PFD109NFD107]

Originally posted by firenresq77
Wow!! All this while I was gone. I guess it just shows that I'm loved after all!!!
I wouldn't go that far...

[RspctFrmCalgary]

Oh let him live in his dream world HAHAHAHA ;) :D :D :p

[firenresq77]

How about a little update on our truck..........

Not looking good for replacement anytime soon. The wonderful people at the manufacturer have offered us a whopping $94,000 for our not-even-14-month-old truck that hasn't been right since it was purchased and we paid $138,000+ for. Then the replacement one would cost us $151,000........ Aren't they generous????

[WTFD10]

If you guys end up having to do this the replacement will be from a different manufacturer right?

[firenresq77]

Originally posted by WTFD10
If you guys end up having to do this the replacement will be from a different manufacturer right?
Moe, I'm just guessing, but if they can get it worked out where it's an even-up trade (or at least pretty close) it will still come from the same manufacturer. If, however, it can't get worked out and has to go through the court system, you can almost guarantee we'll never get another vehicle from that manufacturer........

[WTFDChief730]

:D See...should have went with an E-One.

[firenresq77]

LOL! I think anything would have been better than this one.

What's even funnier is the fact that at the Ohio Fire Chiefs Conference, this manufacturer was directly across the aisle from a company called ARMS, who we had put a hydraulic generator on our Engine at Station #1, which we are also in the process of litigation with to get our money back due to the problems we had with it........

[firenresq77]

Another update........


Apparently we have come to an agreement with the manufacturer.......

They are giving us $125,000 for our truck. They are building us a new one on a 2005 GMC 5500 Chassis. This is a 4-door chassis that will seat 4 people. There are a list of changes/upgrades (which I can't remember all of them)

- Will have GVW of 26000 instead of 19000

- Will have 400 gallon tank instead of 300

- Pump is still 500gpm, but will be a different type and will have pump and roll capabilities (not that we'll use it)

- Compartments will be 26" deep instead of 24"

- Generator will be 8KW hydraulic instead of 5KW Auragen-type

- Compartments will be 61" tall instead of 51"

- Initially had 3 pack seats, but I think we may get rid of the officers seat.....

- Will include hose-bed covers.......

- Will have storage in running boards (for lack of better description) below the pump panels.

- Will have an extended front bumper with a storage compartment and plumbed for a trash line.......

- All lettering is supposed to be actual Gold Leaf instead of pseudo gold leaf


I can't remember the rest right now.......

We will have to come up with $26,000 and some change to pay the difference, which the city has already approved. We are trying to talk the Chief into re-numbering the new one to 803 instead of 806. (for those who don't know our system, a rig ending in 6 is a mini-pumper and one ending in 3 is a back-up engine or a tanker). This will not be a Mini pumper...... More like a full-size engine.

The chassis is on order but won't come in until December, which I don't understand why it takes that long........ We should have the truck by March or April 2005........

[WTFD10]

Light at the end of the tunnel!

Congratulations

[firenresq77]

Originally posted by WTFD10
Light at the end of the tunnel!

Congratulations I'm not getting my hopes up yet....... Who knows what the city will do after their realization of the budget woes......... (See the thread in Illinois forums about Station Construction. There's an article I posted a link for in there. It's actually a hilarious article.)

[firenresq77]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again.

ALL MANUFACTURERS WILL MAKE A "BAD" TRUCK EVERY ONCE IN AWHILE. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU ARE PIERCE, E-ONE, KME, SUTPHEN. AMERICAN LAFRANCE, OR ONE OF THE SMALLER MANUFACTURERS LIKE 4-GUYS....... IT HAPPENS.

The bottom line is that as long as the manufacturer stands by it's product and is willing to make things right with the truck, everything should be OK.........

[PFD109NFD107]

Somebody must have urinated in your Wheaties....

[Fire40man]

I thought it was OK to eat yellow snow.

[PFD109NFD107]

Originally posted by Fire40man
I thought it was OK to eat yellow snow.


Snow yes...Wheaties no!!!!

[firenresq77]

Originally posted by PFD109NFD107
Somebody must have urinated in your Wheaties.... No, no........ Apparently I did it to someone else.....:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[ffsmromstadt13]

You better watch it I'm gonna tell on you.

MINI-ME

[firenresq77]

Originally posted by ffsmromstadt13
You better watch it I'm gonna tell on you.

MINI-ME Tattle tale!!!!!!

[Fire40man]

If a chicken and a half can lay an egg and a half in a day and a half, how long would it take a one legged grasshopper to kick the seeds off a pickle??????????

[firenresq77]

Originally posted by Fire40man
If a chicken and a half can lay an egg and a half in a day and a half, how long would it take a one legged grasshopper to kick the seeds off a pickle?????????? Who was sleeping when you were sleeping???????????

[Fire40man]

The peanut butter bandit, he naps alot.

[firenresq77]

Originally posted by Fire40man
The peanut butter bandit, he naps alot. Why did you have to bring Bou into this?? ;) :eek:

[Weruj1]

Will it shed alternators faster than rattlesnake molting in the desert ? Arriving soon at a repair shop near you ................stay tuned for the new 6' arrival. (pumper tanker 806 ?)

[firenresq77]

Monday night should be the night......

[WTFD10]

WHICH Monday night? :D

[firenresq77]

Well, hopefully THIS Monday night....... :eek: ;) :D

[WTFD10]

You can definitely color me jealous :D

Congratulations Northwood brothers on a very nice new rig. I hope it gives you years and years of reliable service.

[Weruj1]

Itssssssssssssssssssssssssssss ssssssss Here ! ( or is it back?>) at any rate looks more better than the lemon ..........hope it holds up better.

[firenresq77]

Thanks, guys. So far, I haven't heard too many complaints. Hopefully it will be in service shortly.

[Weruj1]

well ya gonna let the rest of the world see it ?> (pssssssst post a pic or sumpthin')

[firenresq77]

Originally posted by Weruj1
well ya gonna let the rest of the world see it ?> (pssssssst post a pic or sumpthin') I will when I get one........

Waiting to take one with all of the decals on it........

[Weruj1]

well I hope thats soon just in case it breaks down ! :p

[Weruj1]

Todd what are trying to do ?

[firenresq77]

Originally posted by Weruj1
Todd what are trying to do ? Looks like he's havin some issues posting a pic........ Must be a sizing problem.......

[NFD159]

Here she is:

[NFD159]

Wow I'm kind of Rusty at that!!!

A bigger picture is on www.northwoodfire.com

[Weruj1]

hey is that unit 806 ? :D :p :D

[firenresq77]

Originally posted by Weruj1
hey is that unit 806 ? :D :p :D yep UNIT 806....... Although the UNIT is only on there like 4 times, but 806 is on there 7....... :rolleyes:

And Yes, Todd, you are a bit rusty....... ONly took you 6 times??

[NFD159]

I think so, it says so seven different places on the "unit" so it must be!

[Weruj1]

all ball bustin aside ..........pretty nice rig callers !

[NFD159]

How'd you fellas know I was having some problems with the size of my unit?

[NFD159]

I tried to post it on the Fools website also but couldn't figure out how.

[firenresq77]

Originally posted by NFD159
I tried to post it on the Fools website also but couldn't figure out how. Moe had your back!!!

[WTFD10]

I am occasionally useful...

This is a really nice rig. I think with some changes to pump size and a way to mount ladders we could replace our old E-One with something like this for alot cheaper than a full size engine.

Glad everything worked out the best after all the hassles.

[RFRDxplorer]

Congrats.

That's a real nice looking rig.

[firenresq77]

Did anyone watch the NASCAR race today??? Fire40man called saying he thought he saw 806 in one of the shots. I turned it on and saw something that looked like it, but, obviously, the shot didn't last long. He reminded me that I had TiVo (I always forget how great it is) so I rewound it and paused it to watch it frame by frame..... I believe it was the old 806 truck there in the Poconohs. (sp??) I had to record it to show others who want to see it in slow motion. It looked like it still had all the same decals on it, even.....


Can any of the guys from KME that watch this thread verify if it was the same rig?? 2003 Ford F-550 Mini-Pumper.........

[WTFD10]

Originally posted by firenresq77
Can any of the guys from KME that watch this thread verify if it was the same rig??

ROFLMAO :D :D :D ;)

[firenresq77]

Originally posted by WTFD10


ROFLMAO :D :D :D ;) I know they are here........ Just thought I'd check to see if that is in fact the rig!!!! Come out, come out, wherever you are!!!! :eek: ;)

[Weruj1]

Hey if it is good enough for Northwood..................... it HAS to be good enough for NAY-CE-CAR !

[RFRDxplorer]

Thanks Northwood for bringing 806 to our muster and allowing us to practice waterball with it at station 2.

[firenresq77]

Originally posted by RFRDxplorer
Thanks Northwood for bringing 806 to our muster and allowing us to practice waterball with it at station 2. Not a problem........

[Fire40man]

Of what, the hole they dug?

[firenresq77]

I think I forgot to mention it.......... The old rig has been sold......... Probably a month ago or so..........

[Weruj1]

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