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cbblood
01-16-2007, 07:41 AM
dose any one else ride on the buper what do you think a bout it do you think it works beter that whaking on the fire ground
fire0099881
01-16-2007, 02:03 PM
dose any one else ride on the buper what do you think a bout it do you think it works beter that whaking on the fire ground
Well first off I think you need to go take a spelling class! as it is hard to read what you put here. but I don't think you should be riding on a bumper of a truck at anytime, whether it be on a brush fire, or parade or anything. That is one of the most unsafe things that is done if you ask me.
dday05
01-16-2007, 02:40 PM
dose any one else ride on the buper what do you think a bout it do you think it works beter that whaking on the fire ground
We have a pick up with a high pressure pump unit in it . Depending on the situation we will ride in the back or we'll drag the line off the truck or what not. We don't get very large brush fires around here like out west. I think the largest brush fire I've been on was about 120 acres. And most of that was using indian cans. Our usual brush fires range from 1-5 acres. Our system works well for us.But as I've said earlier what we respond to is completely different than out west, with open areas etc. I'll put a pic of our brush truck on sometime this week.
doughesson
01-16-2007, 04:09 PM
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doughesson
01-16-2007, 04:09 PM
My old department's Jeeps were rigged with a tee on the pump discharge side so the guy in the shotgun seat could spray water without leaving the safety of the roll cage.
Anyone caught riding the bumper of anything got a cruel and unusual punishment:no responding for two weeks and no invite to the Christmas dinner.Since the points checks were paid then,we tried to avoid that sentence.
Further offences could result in the death penalty,literally or in that they'd be booted off the department and not able to rejoin.
CaptOldTimer
01-16-2007, 04:16 PM
dose any one else ride on the buper what do you think a bout it do you think it works beter that whaking on the fire ground
I never did that, I did whack on the ground before. Got my foot caught under a old tree limb. :eek: ;) :rolleyes:
Bushwhacker
01-16-2007, 11:33 PM
Kinda hard to walk and drag hose on a 1000 acre+ sized fire, for 3 days. As far as riding on the front bumper, I hate the idea, it is a bad idea. Riding on the App. on the other hand is, in my area, a neccisity. There have been advancments to make it safer but it will never be completly safe.
The jeep idea is a great idea but, can you stuff 400 gallons of water, all of the tools and equpiment, and a 3 man crew for a full blown type 5 rig? Have heard of dragin' the hose in the cab with you, but i dunno how well that would work.
Deck-guns, are almost 2 exspensive to fully out-fit a complete fleet of grass rigs with. I have also seen deck-guns get the **** beat out of them in heavy brush to.
I will post some pictures, of what we have done to help out with that, not sayin that we are the do-all end-all to everything but I think Its a Good idea.
RitzvilleFD
01-17-2007, 01:44 AM
Riding bumpers is a very, very, very bad idea. Not the way that I want to go out.
We have a nice set up. Our county district is all fields and scab-rock range land. Our county engies are built on heavy chassis, 4x4, carry 1,000 gallons of water and a foam injection sytem, and have a seperate 4 cylinder pump engine independent of the drive engine. We ride up top on the fires, our floor being the top of the tank. We have 3 1/2 foot padded sidewalls all around our working area, with nozzles mounted on swivels for ease of control. We have control of the pump throttle from where we stand. I'll get some pics and try to get them posted tomorrow.
ntmd8r38
01-17-2007, 07:49 AM
Have heard of dragin' the hose in the cab with you, but i dunno how well that would work.
I've done that many times, we're a small volunteer dept. and sometimes weekday response is 2-3 guys, I lay the nozzle over the mirror bracket and just aim and shoot :D
LVFD301
01-17-2007, 10:41 AM
Kinda hard to walk and drag hose on a 1000 acre+ sized fire, for 3 days. As far as riding on the front bumper, I hate the idea, it is a bad idea. Riding on the App. on the other hand is, in my area, a neccisity. There have been advancments to make it safer but it will never be completly safe.
The jeep idea is a great idea but, can you stuff 400 gallons of water, all of the tools and equpiment, and a 3 man crew for a full blown type 5 rig? Have heard of dragin' the hose in the cab with you, but i dunno how well that would work.
Deck-guns, are almost 2 exspensive to fully out-fit a complete fleet of grass rigs with. I have also seen deck-guns get the **** beat out of them in heavy brush to.
I will post some pictures, of what we have done to help out with that, not sayin that we are the do-all end-all to everything but I think Its a Good idea.
I have done it on 600 acres, that took us one day to put out. That, ground
crews with indian pumps, flails, rakes, leaf blowers, etc.
We also use 5/4 ton trucks with 100-200 gallon tanks. CAFS can make that water stretch much longer, meaning lower consumption. Hell, Joy in the water tank makes for lower consumption.
I have worked many a wildland fire using the hose stretched up to the window.
I am not saying that my solutions work everywhere, but I am saying that
riding the bumper is nuts, and should be outlawed.
Bushwhacker
01-18-2007, 01:58 AM
As I said before Riding on the front bumper is a horrible idea, I will post some pictures of what we use. I would Like to see your opinons on them.
devildog4
01-18-2007, 02:53 AM
I can't believe how many people thought that post was real...
k1500chevy97
01-18-2007, 03:02 AM
Riding bumpers is a very, very, very bad idea. Not the way that I want to go out.
We have a nice set up. Our county district is all fields and scab-rock range land. Our county engies are built on heavy chassis, 4x4, carry 1,000 gallons of water and a foam injection sytem, and have a seperate 4 cylinder pump engine independent of the drive engine. We ride up top on the fires, our floor being the top of the tank. We have 3 1/2 foot padded sidewalls all around our working area, with nozzles mounted on swivels for ease of control. We have control of the pump throttle from where we stand. I'll get some pics and try to get them posted tomorrow.
Our newer rigs have that setup where you are up on top of the tank just behind the cab with a padded enclosure. Its a lot better than riding on the rear end strapped into the cage.
http://photos.imageevent.com/k1500chevy97/firepictures2/websize/IM003988.JPG
http://photos.imageevent.com/k1500chevy97/firepictures2/websize/IM004010.JPG
Bushwhacker
01-31-2007, 02:13 AM
Which Bumper are you guys talking about? The front or the rear? I can understand the front, but we have always ran on the rear.
cbblood
01-31-2007, 08:24 AM
Our newer rigs have that setup where you are up on top of the tank just behind the cab with a padded enclosure. Its a lot better than riding on the rear end strapped into the cage.
http://photos.imageevent.com/k1500chevy97/firepictures2/websize/IM003988.JPG
http://photos.imageevent.com/k1500chevy97/firepictures2/websize/IM004010.JPG
we have a truck like that but there are not a lot of truck makers out there that make them that way
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