View Full Version : The Forums, The Post & Courier Articles, Hot Potatoes
legeros
07-22-2007, 05:15 AM
Has anyone else noticed a seemingly near absence of forums threads or comments discussing the continuing Charleston Post & Courier articles (http://www.charleston.net/news/firefighters/)? Judging by the user comments in the P&C articles, there is no shortage of online opinion out there. Hot potato, perhaps? FH forum members steering clear of starting threads? FH administrators preemptively deleting such threads, if they are started?
Is discussion of discussions also considered risky? Might be. Such threads, such as this, also risk being hijacked to directly discuss the once-removed subject.
Wonder what the safest distance is for comfort? Discussing the discussions of discussions?
Discussing the discussing of discussing discussions?
It is very interesting.
mjl
malana1
07-22-2007, 05:28 AM
huh???????
sconfire
07-22-2007, 06:54 AM
Mike,
I even have to ask... WHAT?!
PaulGRIMWOOD
07-22-2007, 07:51 AM
The absence of discussion of the Charleston Post & Courier articles-- or even solicitation of discussion from the main site-- suggest that the forums Powers That Be are steering clear of conversational hot potatoes.
Wonder if there's a safe distance that everyone can be comfortable with.
mjl
Legeros I don't believe we have debated before so welcome .... Obviously Grant knows you so that sits well with me.
Firstly, what is there to discuss? We all have our opinions based on incomplete evidence but that is it .... some video .... on-scene images .... news reports and some hearsay. Some other stuff is known by a few here but is not generally up for discussion at this time.
Any discussion based on incomplete evidence is disrespectful to all those involved. These forums generally adopt this approach and you know such discussion about an incident of this nature, as may go on in other forums, would not go far here before losing direction.
I am of the opinion (some here are not) that it is respectful and correct to immediately refresh ourselves tactically, of the 'types of fire' and the 'common hazards' we may encounter at such incidents, as a stark reminder of the precautions we might/should take and the risk control measures we should put in place. Therefore if nine brothers tragically lose their lives in a superstore, we should all take a close look at our own approaches, just to make sure we have all bases covered. Why wait for the official reports to do this!
We have surrounding discussions based on LODD that get pretty heated and these are not generally incident specific but more broadly based across all types of LODD.
When nine brothers lose their lives so tragically it raises the emotions on this forum to the extent that there are clashes between forum members depending on what stance or view they might show. In general, such discussion will go nowhere here .... except into an ever decreasing spiral of gibberish and taunts ....
So what is there to discuss!
legeros
07-22-2007, 08:01 AM
Original posting rewritten to be more clear, more direct... Done over space of 15-20 minutes, with a couple iterations.
mjl
GFDLT1
07-22-2007, 08:24 AM
Mike you need to look around, it has been discussed. Just look at the thread Cars, kitchens and bedrooms oh my. There have also been other threads, but most of the members here on the forums agreed right off the get go that Charleston's tactics wouldn't really be debated much until some of the official findings come out. There was actually a thread earlier about was it too soon and too fresh to debate it yet.
So before jumping to conclussions do a search.
ElectricHoser
07-22-2007, 09:18 AM
Original posting rewritten to be more clear, more direct...
I came in after the apparent rewrite, nonetheless the first thing that came to mind (even before I knew it was edited) was also
huh???????
legeros, what are you getting at?
hwoods
07-22-2007, 12:03 PM
As you can see by my join date and post count, I've been here for a while (some say too long :D ) And I'll give you a hard, fast answer to one point:
The Administrators of This Forum Will Not Block Discussion of a Subject.
That's a fact. Persons who become disruptive will be dealt with, and if something is too far out of hand, it will be locked. But, there will be discussion. In fact, there is a recent thread that I participated in, which discusses the use of Booster lines (or Red Lines) This discussion sprang up as a result of an article somewhere about wether using those small lines contributed to the tragedy.
GeorgeWendtCFI
07-22-2007, 01:52 PM
Has anyone else noticed a seemingly near absence of forums threads or comments discussing the continuing Charleston Post & Courier articles (http://www.charleston.net/news/firefighters/)? Judging by the user comments in the P&C articles, there is no shortage of online opinion out there. Hot potato, perhaps? FH forum members steering clear of starting threads? FH administrators preemptively deleting such threads, if they are started?
Is discussion of discussions also considered risky? Might be. Such threads, such as this, also risk being hijacked to directly discuss the once-removed subject.
Wonder what the safest distance is for comfort? Discussing the discussions of discussions?
Discussing the discussing of discussing discussions?
It is very interesting.
mjl
I'm sorry, I missed it in the beginning...what paper are you a reporter for and looking to stir up trouble?
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