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Firedan38 · 01-12-2004, 07:09 PM

does anyone know anything about a rule limiting part time firefighters to 1500 hours per year?....i have looked in the ORC and the OAC and OP&F, FLSA wage and hour, no one seems to know anything about it. we have a problem at my dept. with part time being disciplined for going over 1500 hrs a year, the previous dept. i worked for had no such rule you signed a waiver of benefits for part time and you could work 48 hours a week, my current dept. says 52 per week or 124 a month, which stays below the supposed rule of 1500 hours per year, i want to try and change it to 36 per yeek or 132 a month, it will put us over the 1500 but if i can find where the rule doesnt exist i may get it passed. if any one can help i would sure appreciate it!!!!!!

firenresq77 · 01-12-2004, 07:28 PM

I vaguely remember our chief saying something about max hours per week when we started our part time program, but I don't remember what the number of hours was or if it was a federal, state, or city rule.

However, there is a FD in this area that has part-time personnel and they work different schedules. They have an A B C shift like a full-time FD on 24-48 shifts. Most of their part-time personnel work 6am-6pm on their shift (either A B or C). Plus these people also pick up a lot of overtime either on their off days or from 6p-12a, or from 12a-6a. I know they have people who are working more than 1500 hours per year, but I'm not sure whose rule it is.

rescue133lt · 01-13-2004, 03:23 PM

What is the issue with your department? Are they concerned with owing the part-timers benefits or something else.

At our department the part-timers are allowed to work 84 hours per pay (average 42 hours per week). We don't seem to have an issue and they aren't paid any benefits.

ff7134 · 01-13-2004, 03:59 PM

I haven't heard of anything....but I'll ask around.

Ohiovolffemtp · 01-16-2004, 07:20 PM

The references I've heard are that if you excede 1500 hours within a given calendar year, you are considered a full-time employee and your employer is required to provide benefits. The source cited was Federal wage & hour rules. Most departments in SW Ohio limit their part-timers to 1500 hours within a given year. It tends to lead to many open shifts and manditory overtime for their full-timers in December.

01-12-2004, 07:09 PM	#1
Firedan38 MembersZone Subscriber Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: St. Petersburg Fl Posts: 109	Part time firefighters does anyone know anything about a rule limiting part time firefighters to 1500 hours per year?....i have looked in the ORC and the OAC and OP&F, FLSA wage and hour, no one seems to know anything about it. we have a problem at my dept. with part time being disciplined for going over 1500 hrs a year, the previous dept. i worked for had no such rule you signed a waiver of benefits for part time and you could work 48 hours a week, my current dept. says 52 per week or 124 a month, which stays below the supposed rule of 1500 hours per year, i want to try and change it to 36 per yeek or 132 a month, it will put us over the 1500 but if i can find where the rule doesnt exist i may get it passed. if any one can help i would sure appreciate it!!!!!! __________________ Any commander who fails to exceed his authority is not of much use to his subordinates. - Arleigh Burke

01-13-2004, 03:23 PM	#3
rescue133lt Forum Member Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: Gahanna, Ohio Posts: 41	What is the issue with your department? Are they concerned with owing the part-timers benefits or something else. At our department the part-timers are allowed to work 84 hours per pay (average 42 hours per week). We don't seem to have an issue and they aren't paid any benefits. __________________ Lt. John Kaltenbach Mifflin Fire - Rescue 133 Gahanna, OH "Vermögen bevorzugt das tapfere!"

01-13-2004, 03:59 PM	#4
ff7134 MembersZone Subscriber Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 1,100	I haven't heard of anything....but I'll ask around. __________________ AKA: Mr. Whoo-Whoo IAFF Local 3900 IACOJ-The Crusty Glow Worm ENGINE 302 - The Fire Rats F.A.N.T.A.M FOOLS FTM-PTB

01-16-2004, 07:20 PM	#5
Ohiovolffemtp MembersZone Subscriber Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Clermont County, Ohio Posts: 572	1500 hour Rule The references I've heard are that if you excede 1500 hours within a given calendar year, you are considered a full-time employee and your employer is required to provide benefits. The source cited was Federal wage & hour rules. Most departments in SW Ohio limit their part-timers to 1500 hours within a given year. It tends to lead to many open shifts and manditory overtime for their full-timers in December. __________________ Proud to be honored with IACOJ membership. Blessed by TWO meals cooked by Cheffie - a true culinary goddess. Expressing my own views, not my organization's.

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01-12-2004, 07:28 PM	#2
firenresq77 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Northwest Ohio Posts: 5,246	I vaguely remember our chief saying something about max hours per week when we started our part time program, but I don't remember what the number of hours was or if it was a federal, state, or city rule. However, there is a FD in this area that has part-time personnel and they work different schedules. They have an A B C shift like a full-time FD on 24-48 shifts. Most of their part-time personnel work 6am-6pm on their shift (either A B or C). Plus these people also pick up a lot of overtime either on their off days or from 6p-12a, or from 12a-6a. I know they have people who are working more than 1500 hours per year, but I'm not sure whose rule it is.

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