Residency Requirements - Firehouse Forums

firenresq77 · 03-10-2004, 09:52 PM

How does everyone feel about residency requirements? To clarify, I'm talkimg about Full-Time or Part-Time firefighters, not POC or Volunteer. That is a whole other issure.

The local "Big City" FD says you must live in the city, but gives waivers out after 10 years. There are others that utilize a radius. Some say you must live in the same or adjacent counties, yet others just have a random list of locales.

Do you agree with them? What do you think the requirement should be?

Weruj1 · 03-10-2004, 11:09 PM

can I reply ??????

........if it were me I would give them a thumbs down !

WTFD10 · 03-10-2004, 11:16 PM

For the most part, I don't like residency requirements but it depends on how the department is run.

There is a smaller city to the north of us who's second alarm is to recall the previous shift. However, they do not have a residency requirement so it takes quite awhile to get everybody in since most of them don't live in the city. A residency requirement would make sense for them (but then again, so would calling the neighboring departments for a 2nd, even if they are "just vollies"

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PFD109NFD107 · 03-11-2004, 01:48 AM

Oh boy a topic that is to my liking!!!!!!

Residency requirements are useless. It is nice to see that many municipalities in NW Ohio are getting rid of them. I can only hope that one more falls very very soon....

firenresq77 · 03-11-2004, 02:23 AM

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Originally posted by PFD109NFD107
Oh boy a topic that is to my liking!!!!!!

Residency requirements are useless. It is nice to see that many municipalities in NW Ohio are getting rid of them. I can only hope that one more falls very very soon....

I thought of you when I posted this........

PFD109NFD107 · 03-11-2004, 08:53 AM

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Originally posted by firenresq77

I thought of you when I posted this........

Thanks for caring!!!!!

ff7134 · 03-11-2004, 09:32 AM

Ours requirement is you must live in a county bordering our county. That is how its handled here. I think that a residency for FT and PT is stupid.....I know of 2 departments near me that you must live in that area or your not hired.

Weruj1 · 03-11-2004, 09:47 AM

the only .....and I feel only drawback could be that obviously if you dont live where you work you cannot vote on items that may effect your job like tax items etc.

WTFDChief730 · 03-11-2004, 09:54 PM

You know my feeling on this issue...our department cant use the recall excuse during an emergency because they rely on the neighboring departments to bail them out for 6 hours like a few weeks back.

In reality though, Josh your right about the voting issues that may affect our jobs that we would not have a say in, that is a draw back. In my opinion this day and age I really dont agree with them, I dont agree with being told where I have to live based on my employment. Obviously my department beat this issue to death and we finally got the 10 year rule. I have a waiver, but I'm in no hurry to leave living in the city. At one point I did think for a minute that if I'm going to be a volunteer FF on my days off, I may as well move to Rossford and join their department and make the big bucks while I'm at it too

kghemtp · 03-11-2004, 10:29 PM

I Left a couple thoughts on this in another thread. I'm not from Ohio, but ya said "everyone" right?

The residency issue rears its ugly head in a few NH cities. My question is this: Who's to stop me from running a landscaping business that keeps me tied up for the 6 days I have off in an 8 day cycle? In working that job, I'd be completely unavailable for callback at times other than overnight or held over on a shift. So whether I live IN town & have another job that doesn't allow me callback, OR I live an hour away and STILL make it to my shift 45 minutes early, what's the freakin difference?

WTFD10 · 03-11-2004, 10:43 PM

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Originally posted by WTFDChief730
At one point I did think for a minute that if I'm going to be a volunteer FF on my days off, I may as well move to Rossford and join their department and make the big bucks while I'm at it too

I'll go with you. We'll take turns being the tillerman, right Josh?

One thing though, can you be a sparky and an iaff'er at the same time?

firenresq77 · 03-11-2004, 11:14 PM

Ya'll don't wanna go to Rossford......... I hear there's more freedom in Northwood.

Plus they have top of the line apparatus!

kghemtp............. Come join us anytime........ We're a friendly bunch!!

firenresq77 · 03-11-2004, 11:16 PM

Like this.........

http://www.geocities.com/northwoodfire/images/802.jpg

WTFD10 · 03-11-2004, 11:23 PM

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Originally posted by firenresq77
Ya'll don't wanna go to Rossford......... I hear there's more freedom in Northwood. Plus they have top of the line apparatus!

Yeah I heard you guys are having a major recruiting drive because you have to use truly old school methods to get the mini-pumper to fires!

Weruj1 · 03-11-2004, 11:54 PM

CHA CHING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ROLFMAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG !!!!!!!!!

Weruj1 · 03-11-2004, 11:57 PM

it appears that someone else started CPR over here .....http://cms.firehouse.com/forums2/sho...5&pagenumber=2

03-10-2004, 09:52 PM	#1
firenresq77 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Northwest Ohio Posts: 5,246	Residency Requirements How does everyone feel about residency requirements? To clarify, I'm talkimg about Full-Time or Part-Time firefighters, not POC or Volunteer. That is a whole other issure. The local "Big City" FD says you must live in the city, but gives waivers out after 10 years. There are others that utilize a radius. Some say you must live in the same or adjacent counties, yet others just have a random list of locales. Do you agree with them? What do you think the requirement should be?

03-10-2004, 11:09 PM	#2
Weruj1 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: NW Ohio Posts: 7,655	can I reply ?????? ........if it were me I would give them a thumbs down ! __________________ IACOJ both divisions and PROUD OF IT ! Pardon me sir.. .....but I believe we are all over here ! ATTENTION ALL SHOPPERS: Will the dead horse please report to the forums.(thanks Motown) RAY WAS HERE 08/28/05 LETHA' FOREVA' ! 010607 I'm sorry, I haven't been paying much attention for the last 3 hours.....what were we discussing?

03-10-2004, 11:16 PM	#3
WTFD10 MembersZone Subscriber Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 1,722	For the most part, I don't like residency requirements but it depends on how the department is run. There is a smaller city to the north of us who's second alarm is to recall the previous shift. However, they do not have a residency requirement so it takes quite awhile to get everybody in since most of them don't live in the city. A residency requirement would make sense for them (but then again, so would calling the neighboring departments for a 2nd, even if they are "just vollies" ) __________________ FTM-PTB-DTRT

03-11-2004, 09:32 AM	#7
ff7134 MembersZone Subscriber Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 1,100	Ours requirement is you must live in a county bordering our county. That is how its handled here. I think that a residency for FT and PT is stupid.....I know of 2 departments near me that you must live in that area or your not hired. __________________ AKA: Mr. Whoo-Whoo IAFF Local 3900 IACOJ-The Crusty Glow Worm ENGINE 302 - The Fire Rats F.A.N.T.A.M FOOLS FTM-PTB

03-11-2004, 09:47 AM	#8
Weruj1 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: NW Ohio Posts: 7,655	the only .....and I feel only drawback could be that obviously if you dont live where you work you cannot vote on items that may effect your job like tax items etc. __________________ IACOJ both divisions and PROUD OF IT ! Pardon me sir.. .....but I believe we are all over here ! ATTENTION ALL SHOPPERS: Will the dead horse please report to the forums.(thanks Motown) RAY WAS HERE 08/28/05 LETHA' FOREVA' ! 010607 I'm sorry, I haven't been paying much attention for the last 3 hours.....what were we discussing?

03-11-2004, 01:48 AM	#4
PFD109NFD107 MembersZone Subscriber Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: Northwood, Ohio, 43619 Posts: 356	Oh boy a topic that is to my liking!!!!!! Residency requirements are useless. It is nice to see that many municipalities in NW Ohio are getting rid of them. I can only hope that one more falls very very soon....

03-11-2004, 09:54 PM	#9
WTFDChief730 MembersZone Subscriber Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: NW Ohio Posts: 102	You know my feeling on this issue...our department cant use the recall excuse during an emergency because they rely on the neighboring departments to bail them out for 6 hours like a few weeks back. In reality though, Josh your right about the voting issues that may affect our jobs that we would not have a say in, that is a draw back. In my opinion this day and age I really dont agree with them, I dont agree with being told where I have to live based on my employment. Obviously my department beat this issue to death and we finally got the 10 year rule. I have a waiver, but I'm in no hurry to leave living in the city. At one point I did think for a minute that if I'm going to be a volunteer FF on my days off, I may as well move to Rossford and join their department and make the big bucks while I'm at it too

03-11-2004, 10:29 PM	#10
kghemtp Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 734	Can I Play Too? I Left a couple thoughts on this in another thread. I'm not from Ohio, but ya said "everyone" right? The residency issue rears its ugly head in a few NH cities. My question is this: Who's to stop me from running a landscaping business that keeps me tied up for the 6 days I have off in an 8 day cycle? In working that job, I'd be completely unavailable for callback at times other than overnight or held over on a shift. So whether I live IN town & have another job that doesn't allow me callback, OR I live an hour away and STILL make it to my shift 45 minutes early, what's the freakin difference? __________________ ~Kevin Firefighter/Paramedic --^v--^v--^v--^v-- Of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong Dennis Miller

03-11-2004, 11:14 PM	#12
firenresq77 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Northwest Ohio Posts: 5,246	Ya'll don't wanna go to Rossford......... I hear there's more freedom in Northwood. Plus they have top of the line apparatus! kghemtp............. Come join us anytime........ We're a friendly bunch!!

03-11-2004, 11:16 PM	#13
firenresq77 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Northwest Ohio Posts: 5,246	Like this......... http://www.geocities.com/northwoodfire/images/802.jpg

03-11-2004, 11:54 PM	#15
Weruj1 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: NW Ohio Posts: 7,655	CHA CHING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ROLFMAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG !!!!!!!!! __________________ IACOJ both divisions and PROUD OF IT ! Pardon me sir.. .....but I believe we are all over here ! ATTENTION ALL SHOPPERS: Will the dead horse please report to the forums.(thanks Motown) RAY WAS HERE 08/28/05 LETHA' FOREVA' ! 010607 I'm sorry, I haven't been paying much attention for the last 3 hours.....what were we discussing?

03-11-2004, 11:57 PM	#16
Weruj1 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: NW Ohio Posts: 7,655	it appears that someone else started CPR over here .....http://cms.firehouse.com/forums2/sho...5&pagenumber=2 __________________ IACOJ both divisions and PROUD OF IT ! Pardon me sir.. .....but I believe we are all over here ! ATTENTION ALL SHOPPERS: Will the dead horse please report to the forums.(thanks Motown) RAY WAS HERE 08/28/05 LETHA' FOREVA' ! 010607 I'm sorry, I haven't been paying much attention for the last 3 hours.....what were we discussing?

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