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    Well, due to the info I got from this site (thank you) and other various military sites, I am still thinking about enlisting with the USMC with an MOS of 7051 Aircraft Firefighting & Rescue. I am really hoping that I will be able to get the MOS I am looking for and not get stuck with something I dont enjoy doing. I have had alot of guys tell me that I should join USAF if I'm looking to be a firefighter but my heart is SET on the corps ever since high school. I am pretty familiar with the way things run about enlisting and such but still have a couple questions you might be able to answer.

    If I DO NOT get my desired MOS 7051 for some reason, will I be able to use a selected secondary MOS to replace my first or how does that work. For example, if 7051 dosent work out or I am not needed, could I have my choice of lets say a flight medic (if the corps has one besides corpsman from navy)? Or would I simply be stuck doing whatever the corps needs me to do such as runway repairs/ maitenence (which is under the same general avation support as firefighting).

    Sorry for all the questions but this is a huge decision I would be making to walk away from a civilian job (Firefighter Paramedic)that pays much more and you have the luxury of not being deployed or away from home. I have felt such a strong urge to serve my country ever since I was young and would be open to any suggestions or info you guys have for me. Thanks, Justin

    One last question, I was told a while ago that in order for you to serve as an infantry soldier, you had to physically pick that MOS, and you cannot just be placed there, is this true?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSSmokeEater View Post
    If I DO NOT get my desired MOS 7051... ...Or would I simply be stuck doing whatever the corps needs me to do such as runway repairs/ maitenence (which is under the same general avation support as firefighting).

    One last question, I was told a while ago that in order for you to serve as an infantry soldier, you had to physically pick that MOS, and you cannot just be placed there, is this true?
    There are no soldiers in the MARINE CORPS, only Marines! That's your one warning. Haha. For everything else, ie. mos selecting call the recruiter, and fyi you don't pick your job the Marine Corps picks it for you, just talk to the recruiter and if you think you're going to crash fire learn this phrase, IYAOYAS.

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    A cousin of mine chose 7051. His recruiter said "No problem." He did not get that MOS. He was put into something along the lines of "ordinance loading". At least it still has something to do with aircraft.

    He is happy where he is at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bones42 View Post
    A cousin of mine chose 7051. His recruiter said "No problem." He did not get that MOS. He was put into something along the lines of "ordinance loading". At least it still has something to do with aircraft.

    He is happy where he is at.
    I have seen this post in previous threads about your cousin not getting the MOS he wanted. I also recall that someone else chimed in and said something (correct me if I'm wrong) about not absolutley having a guarantee from the recruiter or even a possible mistake by the recruiter.

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    Only a recruiter can fully explain the options for an MOS. But if you do not get 7051, you will probably get something in the 7000 occupation field, either 7011 Expeditionary Airfield Tech or 7041 Air Ops Clerk. Make sure whatever it is, you get it in writing. Infantry billets are rarely given to anyone who drops from another MOS, those spots are highly sought after. You'd be more likely to end up in Admin or as a Water Purification Specialist.

    The Corps has no medical jobs, that is all Navy. Closest thing is 7051s who get to EMT school.

    If you are near Miramar, CA, Minneapolis, MN, or Philadelphia you could join the Reserves. Reservists enlist for the specific MOS. You will be a Marine, and you will deploy, but you can keep your civilian job.

    Priority has to be on being a Marine first, MOS second. Read down a couple posts and you'll see I've put a lot of advice on previous posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnyv View Post
    Only a recruiter can fully explain the options for an MOS. But if you do not get 7051, you will probably get something in the 7000 occupation field, either 7011 Expeditionary Airfield Tech or 7041 Air Ops Clerk. Make sure whatever it is, you get it in writing. Infantry billets are rarely given to anyone who drops from another MOS, those spots are highly sought after. You'd be more likely to end up in Admin or as a Water Purification Specialist.

    The Corps has no medical jobs, that is all Navy. Closest thing is 7051s who get to EMT school.

    If you are near Miramar, CA, Minneapolis, MN, or Philadelphia you could join the Reserves. Reservists enlist for the specific MOS. You will be a Marine, and you will deploy, but you can keep your civilian job.

    Priority has to be on being a Marine first, MOS second. Read down a couple posts and you'll see I've put a lot of advice on previous posts.
    Except for going reserves, where you are serving the billet needs of the unit, when has getting an infantry slot been tough? Totally agree on the Priority being a Marine, it is what sets us apart from the other services.

    It is still possible to get a guaranteed MOS to almost any job you qualify for(provided you don't fail ANYTHING along the way). Just means you might be in the DEP(Delayed Entry Program) for a real long time, or that you have to ship out the next day. As long as you are willing to wait, go for it. And if you insist on the MOS, don't let the recruiter push you into something else or contracts with veriables.
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    What you want to do is 0311. That's The Corps. Best job around.....and is the "Total Package" the USMC has to offer. Act now, and you may be able to meet up with me at ILOC in a few weeks. Remember the MOST important thing about joining My Beloved Corps is; Join to be a Marine, not a 7051, 0311, 6216..whatever......You are a Marine first, then your job. And they say "every Marine a rifleman".....yeah...well....true...and not so true, but if they say it...then why not just do it...0311...call your local recruiter today...!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DennisTheMenace View Post
    Except for going reserves, where you are serving the billet needs of the unit, when has getting an infantry slot been tough?
    Actually, its not as easy as you think. Never heard of someone rocking out of a support school only to find themselves at SOI. Usually as Top stated, they end up in Motor-T, EAF, or Bulk Fuel. Nor Grunts are not a dumb as our stereotype leads you to believe. Everyone starts SOI going though the 03 part...common skills (like MCT, but more in depth) Marines with weapons contracts the 31s, 41s, 51s, and 52s get screened and take Math tests to see if they cut it because the formal schools are extremely academic....0352s have it the worst, then the 0351s. And they only take a few to weapons out of the company. Then you have the 12s and 21s....and the MARSOC wanna be's. Good luck with that.....thats one tough program. And last but not least, the most important of anyone in The Corps....the 0311, the one everyone supports. The best....but worst job in The Corps....but looking around you you see your brothers with you....enduring the same BullS*it as you....which makes it all ok.
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    One thing to remember : THERE IS A WAR GOING ON!!!
    Once you join Uncle Sams Misguided Children you WILL be a grunt carrying a rifle. The recruiters will tell you what you want to hear but the reality is you're just fresh meat and numbers to them! They will promise you the moon and stars with hot tubs and open bars at the club to get you to sign on the dotted line. then they will stick you in whatever slot they need filled.

    Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by islandfire03 View Post
    One thing to remember : THERE IS A WAR GOING ON!!!
    Once you join Uncle Sams Misguided Children you WILL be a grunt carrying a rifle. The recruiters will tell you what you want to hear but the reality is you're just fresh meat and numbers to them! They will promise you the moon and stars with hot tubs and open bars at the club to get you to sign on the dotted line. then they will stick you in whatever slot they need filled.

    Good luck!
    This could not be further from the truth. Yes there is a war going on. But no they will not just stick you anywhere. You enlist for on occupational field, its the first two numbers of the 4 digit MOS designator. For instance, you sign up for the 70xx field, which is Airfield Services....you go to boot with your orders that state, "Pvt. Schmuckatelly, 123-45-6789/70xx" Rank, Name, SSN and MOS field. You then go to a MCT and just before you graduate you get placed into a specialty of that field. The only people who get "jerked" around are the ones dumb enough to go "open contract". Make sure to get your Occupational Field (OC) in righting, if you can get a contract for your specific MOS the do so! But remember this, having a contract does not ga-run-tee anything.....there are prerequisites and tests you will have to take to prove you can do the job. Another for instance.....I was always a Grunt. My first enlistment I was in aviation. A Contract KC-130 Crew Chief actually. Once I left MCT, and went to Millington, TN for "A" School, I had to pass an really tough swim qual as a prescreening for Naval Aircrewman's School. And onces at NACS, I still had more insane swim quals to pass....and other assorted aviation physo stuff. Had I failed, I would have went back to the 60xx field, which is aviation maintenance. I would have still been an aircraft mechanic, but maybe not for the KC-130.

    Hope that clears things up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by islandfire03 View Post
    One thing to remember : THERE IS A WAR GOING ON!!!
    Once you join Uncle Sams Misguided Children you WILL be a grunt carrying a rifle. The recruiters will tell you what you want to hear but the reality is you're just fresh meat and numbers to them! They will promise you the moon and stars with hot tubs and open bars at the club to get you to sign on the dotted line. then they will stick you in whatever slot they need filled.

    Good luck!
    Well, thats not very good gouge at all. I ended up with one of the MOS's listed in my carrer choice (AE-Aviation Support). I didn't get the opprotunity to do street patrols or anything like that in Al Anbar, I loaded ordnance on CH-53E's and F/A-18's, so if you enlist for the AE option the alternative assignment to Crash Fire is very enjoyable, and no you may not end up humping a rifle and ILBE everywhere afterall.
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    Food for thought:

    All deployed Marine firefighters (7051s) are assigned to Marine Wing Support Squadrons (MWSS). The MWSS provides all aviation ground support to the flying squadrons, from chow to engineers and firefighting. The gov't, in its infinite wisdom, chose to contract out most firefighting duties in Iraq, with the exception of TRAPs and other off-base (ie, dangerous) missions. In an unrelated decision, the Marine Corps decided to consolidate all MPs and took them away from the MWSS. Now, since the FFs don't have a job big enough for a whole platoon of them, and there are no MPs for base security-GUESS WHO is out running security patrols? I had a prior service 7051 Cpl join our reserve unit with 2 tours in Iraq with provisional rifle platoons, and a Purple Heart. I have a 7051 GySgt (former 0331) out with a CAG now, and I'm hoping to join him soon. There's lots of fun for everyone, regardless of MOS.

    And Vinnie, as usual, another valiant (yet ineffective) attempt to persuade a young impressionable mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnyv View Post
    Food for thought:


    And Vinnie, as usual, another valiant (yet ineffective) attempt to persuade a young impressionable mind.
    Bah....eventually I'll get one.

    BTW this months Leatherneck has a nice spread about my Company during its deployment to Mongolia. Funny to see pics of my knuckleheads "acting" like professionals.....
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