We had a little debate in training the other day about helmet ear flaps and what the "proper" way of wearing them should be.
Should they be tucked into the collar with the collar up or hang outside the collar with the collar up?? Seems to be some different thinking old school vs. new school.
Does anyone know for sure? Please give your opinions.
Mine: I was taught in my basic training to tuck my ear flaps into my collar and have my collar up. This gives two layers of protection for your ears from the hood and the flaps. Others say collar up with ear flaps outside so stuff doesn't run down your neck. IFSTA or NFPA doesn't specify, just wondering what your thoughts were.
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04-28-2008, 12:30 AM #1
Helmet ear flaps: Hung over collar or tucked into collar?
04-28-2008, 01:09 AM #2
Tucked away, or in the liner.
No, I dont wear them in the fire.AJ, MICP, FireMedic
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04-28-2008, 01:50 AM #3
04-28-2008, 02:44 AM #4
Different gear and setup to yours so my opinion will be ignored.Psychiatrists state 1 in 4 people has a mental illness.
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04-28-2008, 02:52 AM #5
Rolled up into the helmet so it looks cooler..Probationary Firefighter
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04-28-2008, 04:37 AM #6
I vote for outside the collar.
The whole design of bunkers are to have anything coming down on you deflected away. That is why they came up with the longer brim on your helmets.Just someone trying to help! (And by the way....Thanks for YOUR help!)
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04-28-2008, 08:53 AM #8
My opinion/preference: ear flaps outside of the collar to offer one more layer to keep material out of my jacket.
04-28-2008, 09:24 AM #9
No flaps at all for me. Just a hood (and only one... ).
When I wore Cairns lids, I always kept 'em tucked inside the lid. With the Phenix I now wear they are removable, and remove them, I did.Fire Lieutenant/E.M.T.
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04-28-2008, 09:56 AM #10
Being as I use them mostly in winter, to stay warm, they are outside the collar.
Also, if they are tucked inside the collar and the collar is tightened, can you still freely move your head side to side or is the collar restricting the movement?"This thread is being closed as it is off-topic and not related to the fire industry." - Isn't that what the Off Duty forum was for?
04-28-2008, 10:15 AM #11
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I've taken them right out, one less thing I gotta worry about.
04-28-2008, 01:54 PM #12Robert Kramer
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04-28-2008, 02:55 PM #13
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If I am training, ear flap is rolled up inside my helmet. Not to "look cool", just to keep cool (it's HOT here in Central Florida!). If I am on a fire scene, I wear them folded down outside of the collar which is turned up. This gives 2 layers of protection, plus keeps stuff out of your coat.
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04-28-2008, 03:02 PM #14
mines rolled up into my helmet. If i was to wear it down i suppose it would be where ever it ended up I doubt It would be of anythought to me while masking up.FOOLS
04-28-2008, 03:03 PM #15
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When I put the flaps down, i wear them outside the collar. I've never even considered putting them inside the collar. Even if I did tuck them in the collar, I can't see them staying there very long.
04-28-2008, 03:17 PM #16
The more I think about it, the more I think they should be outside the collar to keep stuff from coming into your coat.
Back in 1990 I was taught by my instructor to tuck them into the collar. Just a different time and a better is all. Thanks for the input.
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04-28-2008, 04:06 PM #17
I've always been taught that the 'proper' way was to tuck the ear flap into the collar, but that leaves an area for debris to fall in between and potentially injure. If the ear flap was outside of the collar, debris would just fall and run off the ear flap onto the ground eventually unless it sticks.
I've always been taught to tuck the ear flap in, but thinking about it, I don't see why.Pinewald Pioneer Vol. Fire Co. No. 1 Sta. 20
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04-28-2008, 04:30 PM #18
I wear my on the outside of my collar, You can try to tuck it in, but the first time you move your head, the flaps just slips out of the collar anyway. Save your yourself some time and worry and just let it ride out and over your collar.
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04-28-2008, 05:06 PM #19
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I keep it rolled up inside my helmet just because it makes it warmer with them down, and harder to hear. When on the way to a fire i roll them down and keep them outside of the collar, extra protection is always nice.
04-28-2008, 06:13 PM #20FTM-PTB-RFB
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