I am a member of a all vol department. When ever someone gets disiplined they pull out the volunteer card. "I'm just a volunteer, how can you disipline me if i'm not getting payed?" Has any other volunteer departments run iinto the same problem? It also seems that some members are on just to be part of a social club and have no interest in training. When they do show up, all they do is cause problems because they are not on the same page. Any suggestions of similar problems?