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    I am currently putting together a powerpoint on basic forcible entry... any tips or tricks that you use? As a small department that does not put a lot of emphasis on forcible entry all we have is the irons... any materials regarding this topic is much appreciated... i will be more than happy to share the powerpoint with any one interested upon completion... thank you


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    Check out VentEnterSearch.com, they have a link to the full FDNY forcible entry manual. Everything you ever wanted to know about a Halligan Bar and lots of things you never thought of. Good stuff.

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    We have a company in our area that is a contractor for nasa and the military. There was a fire alarm and noone on site.

    Their building is very secure and while the security guard could get into the lobby, even he couldn't get into the warehouse. However, we had the hinges available.

    Popped the pin out of the hinges and did our walkthrough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefKN View Post
    We have a company in our area that is a contractor for nasa and the military. There was a fire alarm and noone on site.

    Their building is very secure and while the security guard could get into the lobby, even he couldn't get into the warehouse. However, we had the hinges available.

    Popped the pin out of the hinges and did our walkthrough.

    Don't forget the obvious!
    And when entering a secure area,be sure and close your eyes so as not to compromise the facility.
    You weren't there,the building wasn't there and the incident never happened.
    Now,uncross your fingers.We ain't playing finsies here.

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    http://www.firefactory.com/FE.pdf

    every question you have should be covered above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doughesson View Post
    And when entering a secure area,be sure and close your eyes so as not to compromise the facility.
    You weren't there,the building wasn't there and the incident never happened.
    Now,uncross your fingers.We ain't playing finsies here.
    Don't tell anyone but we saw the little green men!
    I am now a past chief and the views, opinions, and comments are mine and mine alone. I do not speak for any department or in any official capacity. Although, they would be smart to listen to me.

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    Thanks for the FDNY link, GREAT reference, I'd make the ppt straight from that pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillDougy View Post
    I am currently putting together a powerpoint on basic forcible entry... any tips or tricks that you use? As a small department that does not put a lot of emphasis on forcible entry all we have is the irons... any materials regarding this topic is much appreciated... i will be more than happy to share the powerpoint with any one interested upon completion... thank you
    try before you pry

    push on the door to see where its locked

    man with the halligan doesnt take his eyes off the tips of the fork

    CONTROL THE DOOR!

    stay low

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    as promised now that my presentation is complete i am ready to share... the best way i know how to do this is to have anyone interested email me at billdougyccfd@yahoo.com and i will email it to you....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefKN View Post
    We have a company in our area that is a contractor for nasa and the military. There was a fire alarm and noone on site.

    Their building is very secure and while the security guard could get into the lobby, even he couldn't get into the warehouse. However, we had the hinges available.

    Popped the pin out of the hinges and did our walkthrough.

    Don't forget the obvious!
    Have been to some high security buildings that had the hinges spot welded to keep them from coming off (also had multiple locks). The K-12 is your friend.
    Just someone trying to help! (And by the way....Thanks for YOUR help!)

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    You can mate two Halligans by the forks for additional leverage. If they get jammed, just drop them, and they will come apart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MG3610 View Post
    http://www.firefactory.com/FE.pdf

    every question you have should be covered above.
    that was one of the best things I have read in a long time. Are there manuals for other topics available online?

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    not like that, but try

    www.sageauthoring.com

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    Default FDNY forcible entry file

    If anybody has the FDNY forcible entry pdf file, could you please email it to me.

    The Firefactory website & VES are down.

    thanks

    John

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    www.brotherhoodinstructors.com


    also has some great stuff. look through the online drills

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    Default FDNY forcible entry

    I got the download,

    thanks for the replies.

    John

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillDougy View Post
    as promised now that my presentation is complete i am ready to share... the best way i know how to do this is to have anyone interested email me at billdougyccfd@yahoo.com and i will email it to you....
    bill, please enable your PM. thank you

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    Also check out FirefightingTactics.com....it also gives members options to discus new and old methods that work best.


    Quote Originally Posted by LFPDLT View Post
    Check out VentEnterSearch.com, they have a link to the full FDNY forcible entry manual. Everything you ever wanted to know about a Halligan Bar and lots of things you never thought of. Good stuff.

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    Check out the web community videos in Fire Engineering (in Firehouse.com rival). Frank Ricci of the New Haven, CT FD has a some great forcible entry videos. Also check out vententersearch.com they have some great postings on odd ball locks and real world problems we encounter. Brotherhood Instructors is a GREAT resource and ran by 2 EXCELLANT FF's!!!

    Additonally, below is some links from various FD's on Basic Forcible Entry videos from youtube.

    Basic Forcible Entry Sacramento, CA FD
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Uor16OYmKs

    Richmond FD, CA Overhead Door
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydCg_jZizpM

    THRU THE LOCK RESIDENTIAL DOOR RIM LOCK, Wichita, KS FD
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VPfQq-q9GA

    THRU THE LOCK ADZ END COMMERCIAL DOOR, Wichita, KS FD
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdYymbawtPw

    Here's an idea I wouldn't advise...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZl9fkV-IPs
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