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    Smile Chief Grants?

    I emailed kurt last month and thought i would try to get some help on a grant. Wow, this guy i thought was pretty impressive on grant knowledge. OK i finally got my chief authorized me to goto San Francisco in Nov. Im sure it will be worth it, for those of you that have gone to one of these seminars, what is your honest opinon? Please be honest. Thanks

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    The seminar is worth it. You get a manual that contains infomation about different types of grants and how ro properly write them.

    Kurt (as well as Brian, and the others on the FH forum) has always answered my questions over the phone and email. They are alot of help to me and others that write grants for our depts. I would not be as sucessful without all of their help!

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    Firebill911 I strongly encourage you to attend one of these seminars. I attended last year and I have almost 100% success on grants since then. I had written grants for AFG, FPS, State Farm, and other smaller grants. Kurt and Brian both know there stuff. Look through this forum and you will find hundreds of people thanking them for their help. This is not without good reason.

    I know you will not be disappointed when you attend.

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    Thumbs up Chief Grant Seminars

    Kurt's seminar was the absolute steering my grant writing abilities needed. I had been moderately succesfull prior to attending NW Indiana in 07, but his insight and direction, as well as the expertice of the other grant writers who attend these seminars made for a very profitable and rewarding 2 AFGs since. Inside most of these seminars are folks from both sides, successful, and not. Kurt's experience outside of the AFG, in dealing with grants at the federal level, opens opportunities for alternative funding that most of us in the fire service would never have imagined possible.

    I too had a chief that was skeptical....ask him how he likes his new Engine, Air Packs and Turnouts. I paid my own way in 07 to go to Kurt's show, the chief finally, after the first $400K reimbursed me. It is an automatic budget item now. Go, listen participate and reap the benefits!

    Finally, the relationship with Kurt and Chief grants does not end at the end of the seminar, Kurt follows your progress, and believe me...he calls at all hours of the night to let you know when your award is posted! This becomes a rather exclusive fraternity that you want to be a part of.

    Everyone here on FH knows the Kurt and Brian are the gurus. I am biased as I have attended the Kurt seminar, and will attend future ones. Ultimately you have two choices, wing it and see what happens, or get with those who have the insight, expertice and ability to make that difference.

    Good luck!!!!

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    What is the cost to attend?

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    I agree, I know Chief's Seminars are worth the $'s it takes to go! I’ll have a brand new Pumper/tanker rolling in to my station around the end of October, still waiting to hear back on the equipment grant. I also have a small service truck that was FULLY equipped with Air Bags, Full set of Extrication Equipment and a bunch more due to help from the conference. So actually those dollars you spend to go to class turn to pennies!! Thanks, Chief!!!!!!

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    Absolutely they are worth it, Kurt and everyone on the forum is invaluable with the help. I attended my first seminar in WV this year and found it to be very helpful in writing and rewriting my AFG grant. Additionally all the other grant sources and input he provides is of great benefit. We are a new Department in WV only 2 years old and even before Kurt knew I was signed up for one of his classes he had looked at and made suggestions and offered input on my attempt complete the grant applications more times than I can count. I am hoping to see him again this coming cycle to learn more from him and others in the classes and on the forum.

    I would be happy to answer any questions and talk with anyone that would like more info or provide testaments to the benefits of these classes.

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    Talking KTB seminar (unpaid endorsement)

    If you are afraid of learning stay home. I'm a full time carreer writer and have gone to Kurts seminars the last 2 years. I plan on going again this year and FYI, I also go to the local DHS seminar every year. You might know something, you might know alot, but no one knows everything.

    Even if you know everything don't you want to hear what your peers have to say about their successes and failures? If you are still unsure go back a few pages on this forum and look at the seminar attendees who are keeping score of their successes. Search Alum Bank seminar or IMAFIREMAN postings.

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    Does anyone have a 2009 seminar schedule?

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    firebill911!

    Absolutly! I talked to my Chief and asked him to send me to this grant seminar. I told him I would return the city's investment. I went to Dallas and spent approx. $800. For that investment, our department has received a little over $120,000 in equipment! What a performance. If you could make this kind of return on your money on Wall Street in 18 months everyone of us could retire.

    Even before I attended his seminar, Kurt walked me through my first grant application. Once you attend his class, you have his talent to review your grants for the future years. He is truely committed to his clients. Ask alot of questions, take alot of notes. You will not be disappointed.

    See ya in Reno Kurt! Going to my second class with him. Get on board guys for this class. I was the first one to sign up. Looking forward to meeting many of you that visit this forum.


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    500,

    Go to Chief's Supply home web page.

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    God yes its worth it. my department was desperate to find a way to pay for larger dollar purchases. i knew money was out there somewhere and searching the inter net, i found 'chief' grants classes. kurt went a long way out of his way to help me make my first application for free when i then realized i was woefully unprepared for such an undertaking. i decided to attend his grants seminar. anyway i got my grant submitted and basically expected to find out something around december of '08. on june 30th, i get a call from kurt saying it appeared that my application had been approved, just don't go to the press until i received the official award announcement. (I literally had to set down when he gave me the news because my knees went week. That's a feeling worth every penny)
    the best part of becoming involved in kurts classes is that he advises, monitors and basically holds your hand through not just the classes, but the writing of the application and the correct procedures for details throughout the grants process. a most welcome person guarding your back through the grants process gives you a confident feeling and outlook. even before i received my direct deposit notification, i had already registered for his class again. oh yes its worth it. the best value per dollar purchase your department will every make. there is so much involved so why not increase your chances of success. more to follow,,,,,,

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    I can not say enough about the value to attending one of Kurt and Margret's seminars. My department never had success with any grants. I convinced the Town Manager to send me and we received our first grant last year. I have attended 2 seminars and have registered for another one in March. The seminar is extremely informative but the continued support after the seminar is where the real value is.

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    Let me count the $1,634,078 reasons you should get to a seminar. This includes 6 trucks from two different funding sources. We made an investment of less than a $1,000 to send me to the Orlando seminar three years ago, and then I went to visit (Earl) Greenacres up in Indiana. So we have less than $1,500 for both seminars and the travel. I would take that kind of return on my investments and be retired in a few weeks. The seminars are great, they get you to look at the process from different points of view, and to look for the fine points that you would otherwise just overlook. You can even get your local Wal Mart store to fund the trip sometimes. I just got another check from them last week for more fire prevention materials. The seminar is worth every penny and more. There are several of us here on the forums that are well over a million in awards, and the competition is just getting harder. The support before and after the seminars is great, usually answered with minutes if not in on the phone immediately. Go to class or get left behind.

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    OK maybe I am missing something here, but it seems that the only way to be sucessful is to pay to go to a seminar. I do not beleive that this was the intent when this program was started. I understand that some departments need some direction but do we need to charge for it? I have helped 20+ departments get awarded and I have not been to 1 seminar. I also have an issue with using these boards to advertise seminar dates and services.
    Just my 2 cents.....

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    After well over $500,000 in funding, I'll admit, I'm a bit prejudiced. I've attended 2 of Kurt's seminars and hosted a third one. In a lot of ways i feel a bit like WFDFPBEMSL4 (a grad of our seminar in LaPorte, IN), i knew most of what i needed to know already, but had no clue of how to put it together or even that we already held the keys. Kurt (and Brian to be sure) are without a doubt experts in their fields.

    The other part of going to the seminar is that you'll meet some of the folks from the Forum, and make other good connections. The idea interchange between the class members and Kurt is worth the price of admission. Others have commented on getting Kurt's calls--he's also willing to receive calls and offer a ton of input.

    Now the bad news (nothing is perfect)--Kurt and Brian both seem to be s**t magnets when it comes to weather, though they're on a good streak right now. On the other hand...we're Public Safety people, we grumble about blizzards, but still get a buzz out of the potential for emergency response!!

    Go to the seminar, it will be one of the best investments your department could make.

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    Well lets see. My department was awarded its first grant in 2002 for around $50,000. I figured we would have no problem receiving a grant after that, so we applied each year following that with NO success. My department was getting desperate to replace our tanker that "has seen its better days!!" I spoke with Kurt on the phone after we submitted our application for the 2006 grant period for close to an hour. Talk about being overwhelmed with information!! He encouraged me to attend a seminar, so I figured I would do one better and host the seminar. There is an abundance of information provided at these seminars, well worth whatever it cost me. Our department was awarded two grants in the first round of the 2007 AFG program. The first being $123,000 for new SCBA, Compressor, and Cascade and the second being $250,000 for the replacement of our tanker. When I found out Attack6 was going to be having Kurt back at his department, I immediately signed up for the class. It was so nice to go through it again without the distractions.

    I must say that the best thing out of all of this is that I gained a new friend with what seems to be knowledge without end.

    Best of Luck
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    Congratulations Waterboy--that's the way life should be. I've helped several other departments and don't charge a dime, though i did get a restauraunt gift card once. I got an AFG grant awarded once BK (before Kurt), but we'd have not had much of a chance at almost anything else if not for the seminar AND the help of folks from this Forum.

    Not to pick on you, but your comment also focuses only on the AFG grant, and part of i've learned is how to look and think outside "the box", and that's been a great source of opportunity.

    Beyond my department and other fire departments, i've been able to take what i've learned and assist several non-profit agencies in our community on stuff that may or may not have anything to do with fire. I never would have even tried to help if i hadn't learned that i was capable.

    I'm never going to be good enough to do this for any fee, but some people are light years beyond and if they're willing to devote their lives to sharing it, i won't have any issue with them making a reasonable living. In the the case of Kurt and Brian, not only to these guys live it, their families do too.

    My 2 cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waterboy1 View Post
    OK maybe I am missing something here, but it seems that the only way to be sucessful is to pay to go to a seminar. I do not beleive that this was the intent when this program was started. I understand that some departments need some direction but do we need to charge for it? I have helped 20+ departments get awarded and I have not been to 1 seminar. I also have an issue with using these boards to advertise seminar dates and services.
    Just my 2 cents.....
    How can you say that the only way to be successful is to pay for a seminar and then turn around and say how successful you have been without attending a seminar? Will you come to my department and help out 20 or 30 departments for two days and cover all of the costs to do so? Paying to attend a seminar is simply buying the plane tickets, covering the lodging and food for a person willing to come and do such a thing. I dont think anyone can expect a person to take 4 days(2 days travel and 2 days in the seminar) away from their families and receive no compansation for it. I look forward to your visit again December 13 and 14 Kurt!!

    Kelly

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    Hey now, Kurt's the one that brings the weather (knocking on wood). I brought increased call volume everywhere I went.

    And call me biased if you want, but I disagree with you waterboy that someone HAS to go to a workshop other than DHS to be awarded. But on the other hand any time you get multiple levels of experience giving multiple points of view on the same subjects the collective level of knowledge increases within that group. Same concept as school and why some people learn more in a classroom versus on their own with a textbook. Regardless of the source any time someone can expand their knowledge on grants they should take it.

    Last year we did have a thread that included schedules of workshops from various sources that included Kurt's schedule and mine but we stuck as many in as we could find as well as other folks posting just so there was one central point that people could have to make a choice.

    As far as this thread, someone asked a question, others posted with opinions. Can't see anything to take issue with and I'm 'competition' technically.

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    I can't say enough good things about Kurt. I have been to one of his seminars and it was definitely worth it. Be prepared to have your knowledge and skills challenged and have a lot of valuable information presented to you. It was by far one of the best courses I've been to. Look for our posting in Fire Engineering from Catlin Fire Protection District. We believe in Kurt so much that we put it on paper!

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    I have attended both BC79s and Kurts workshops. I learned from both. I hosted Kurt last March in my area and am looking to do it again. I have been writing grants for 13 years and every class I attend I learn something new. The class is worth the money.

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    Talking Hail to the Guru's

    I have not been able to attend either Kurt's or Brian's seminar , due to our location ,midcoast Maine. However I have spent quite a bit of time learning from both of them and the rest of the very knowledgeable folks here on the forums. I have also spent quite a bit of time on the phone with Kurt and he has given us the pointers to fine tune out AFG & FP&S apps which have led to success. He also helped us when we were going before the town for the funding for a new brush truck in writing a proposal that was informative and successful. I BOW down before the masters of grant writing!!

    I will try to get to a seminar this year if one comes to new england.
    While you can be successful at grant writing without their knowledge , in this day of tough competition for the shrinking federal & state dollars why not put forth the best effort you can. It couldn't hurt and might just increase your chances.
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    btw thanks 'egmiller' for setting up that class. your facility, supplies and refreshments were great. (means a lot) also your showing me the radar returns got me on the way home in a hurry. the blackness in my rearview mirror looked scary. now when kurt gets his class rolling, prepare for the flood of information coming at you and it doesn't end with the class. i frankly don't know how he finds the time to get any fishing in. he seems to be helping anyone and everyone non stop. and i mean non stop. is that enough sunshine up his skirt now?

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    Hmmmm...I can also give over 1,700,000 reasons why Kurt has helped both my and other fire depts in my area.

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