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    Don't remember seeing this at the time

    http://www.oregonlive.com/editorials...870.xml&coll=7
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    I guess it's a week-long series of articles. The more I read, the more it sounded familiar. It was discussed, briefly ...

    http://forums.firehouse.com/showthre...ight=halvorson

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    My thoughts and prayers to the family and friends.

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    Well, my thoughts and condolences go out to the family and friends or hers as this was a horrible accident, but was she forced to drink at all? I don't think putting the blame on anyone regarding her actually drinking is legitimate at all. Putting the blame on people for not alerting 9-1-1 or EMS or someone to help her would be better fit for this accident. Although, that argument can also be thrown out because of the effects of alcohol. With those effects, one might not be able to make a good judgment or be as quick thinking or moving when under the influence of alcohol. That could have prevented help being called sooner, but I'm not making any excuses for anyone; just stating facts and the obvious.

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    Well sure Piney, the thought that "nobody forced her to drink" crossed my mind yesterday when I was reading the first two articles, and that Shannon played a part in her own death. No offence or disrespect is meant by my words and I hope nobody takes them the wrong way. It doesn't mean I think others are not equally to blame. And I doubt if we are the only two who had that thought, either now or when it happened 5 years ago.

    And yes, I do know that "forcing" someone to do something doesn't necessarily mean physical force. I'm not that naive.

    Off to read today's article.
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