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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFNG View Post
    Sorry, missed a line I meant to have in. To answer you question - no. Also, since jr's can't drive, they don't need lights which is the line I inadvertly cut out.

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    I wouldn't say Jr's cannot drive. In some state teens can get thier full license at 16 or 17. I got my license on my 17th birthday but I had to take driver's Ed. in order for me to get it a year earlier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDNYexp6012 View Post
    I wouldn't say Jr's cannot drive. In some state teens can get thier full license at 16 or 17. I got my license on my 17th birthday but I had to take driver's Ed. in order for me to get it a year earlier.
    I may be way off, but I don't think TheFNG meant cars. I think he was referring to Fire Apparatus because in a previous post that is what he was talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ndvfdff33 View Post
    I may be way off, but I don't think TheFNG meant cars. I think he was referring to Fire Apparatus because in a previous post that is what he was talking about.
    You may be right but I took it as cars. Thanks for the correction.

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    im a Jr FF in Va. my dad is also a Vol. FF in Va. we put Red/white lights in every Car including mine. my dad has went over all the rules. Since i know First aid and is Haz-mat Awareness and CPR-Cert i only use the lights in Medical Assists. NEVER TO Structure Fires and MVA since there only a limited amount of things i can do on those Scenes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDNYexp6012 View Post
    I wouldn't say Jr's cannot drive. In some state teens can get thier full license at 16 or 17. I got my license on my 17th birthday but I had to take driver's Ed. in order for me to get it a year earlier.
    Its 16 here in Ohio, heavens knows that I know all about it since my son hounded me from the time he turned 15 1/2 and could get his permit!! Now he is 16 and safely on the road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDNYexp6012 View Post
    You may be right but I took it as cars. Thanks for the correction.
    Oopsy me too! Sorry. Oh geez no way, man alive my son behind the wheel of our Engine...scarey! Not that he is a bad driver but he is only 16, so that is a huge no!
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    I don't use lights in my POV at all. Leads to too much trouble and confusion. I have seen people coming from 30 minutes away running lights and/or sirens. Pretty senseless since the first attack crew along with the mutual aid guys will be beating you to the scene. As far as i am concerned, in NYS, the only people with lights and sirens in their POVs should be chiefs and assistant chiefs.

    When responding slow down. There is one thing I really hate hearing on the radio, "All units respond with caution". Implies that you are not using caution unless told to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExplorerLt1991 View Post
    And yet you keep it going. This hadn't been posted in for 3 days.
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    But you were keeping it going too.... and now I am

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExplorerLt1991 View Post
    But you were keeping it going too.... and now I am
    Have at it then.
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    well, here is how i look at it. i live where they dont use blue lights here, but instead red, but that doesnt matter really. when i lived in madison, the color was blue though. i was an explorer in madison, and explorers were not alowed to use blue lights in there personal vehicles. we were not alowed to respond to fires, unless assistance was APSOLUTILY needed. i was also on an emergency disaster services program, and i never saw another junior on scene of a fire. i was a explorer myself, and i can honestly say that explorers do not have the proper training to be on a fire scene. when i moved here, i was on a brush fire my 3rd day on the department, and i had no idea what i was doing, i was just following along. there are some juniors/explorers who do know what they are doing, but select few actually do. we have one now that probably knows more than i could ever learn, and he was the one that was leading us around the fire. im just tired of hearing s**t about how juniors and explorers shouldnt be able to respond, but they shouldnt be able to drive them selves is my point. they shouldnt be able to take there own personal vehicles to fires, because if they arive first, and try to do something that is out of there control, it is on them, not the fire department. trust me, i know. juniors/explorers should not be able to have there own personal vehicles and there own personal emergency lights. i think that that is stupid, but hey, im just a rookie, only 1 step up, so what do i know? i just know how it was when i was an explorer, and i know that if you got caught resonding if your assistance wasnt needed, you got onto by the chief, and he wasnt always easy to deal with. maybe i should just keep my mouth shut about it all, but my oppinion is still that juniors/explorers should not be able to have emergency lights in there own personal vehicles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VAJRFirefighter View Post
    im a Jr FF in Va. my dad is also a Vol. FF in Va. we put Red/white lights in every Car including mine. my dad has went over all the rules. Since i know First aid and is Haz-mat Awareness and CPR-Cert i only use the lights in Medical Assists. NEVER TO Structure Fires and MVA since there only a limited amount of things i can do on those Scenes.
    Sounds like you're putting yourself at a major risk, regardless of what you're 'responding' to.

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    Im currently a Junior will be a full member come january 7th, ive had a blue light for close to 6 months now, i am the only junior in the department to be granted a blue light card for multiple reasons, i think that you need to have a Chiefs permission to run lights regardless of whether you are a junior or a full member. Theres juniors in my department that are more mature and more usefull on the firegrounds than a few members that are 10 plus year veterans. Then again it all depends on the region you come from and junior SOP's and stuff. In my department i can do everything at a fireground other than interior attack but i can still man a exterior hoseline and at MVA's i dont know of anything i cant do, im not sure about using the jaws but that's it. Also i am a first responder and respond to many EMS calls directly becasue we cannot ride on the ambulance until we are 18 but can respond to the scene. As for explorers with lights, NO, why is it even a debate? you can't do anything on scene all you can do is sometimes sit in the passanger seat and watch, its awesome and alot of fun to do even that but its not worht the liability to the department.

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    i am a junior FF in new jersey. we are aloud to respond with blue lights. i am 17 but my dad has driven with me and told me the safe way to respond. he has been a firefighter since his twenties ann is now a fire offical and fire marshall. i respond maybe 5 mph over the posted speed limits and only pass other cars if the have pulled over and are at a full stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ncvfdJR View Post
    i am a junior FF in new jersey. we are aloud to respond with blue lights. i am 17 but my dad has driven with me and told me the safe way to respond. he has been a firefighter since his twenties ann is now a fire offical and fire marshall. i respond maybe 5 mph over the posted speed limits and only pass other cars if the have pulled over and are at a full stop.
    And you do this so you can do what vital task?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLSboy View Post
    And you do this so you can do what vital task?
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    i am a junior FF in new jersey. we are aloud to respond with blue lights. i am 17 but my dad has driven with me and told me the safe way to respond. he has been a firefighter since his twenties ann is now a fire offical and fire marshall. i respond maybe 5 mph over the posted speed limits and only pass other cars if the have pulled over and are at a full stop.
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    Guess my picture montage didn't shut this one up...

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    at my department in oregon if you have oober good grades you can respond during school. and you can have ur liscense when ur sixteen. in oregon you cant have blue lights or green. u cant have green cuz ur not gonna be able to be a incident commander. but you can have orange, red, or white lights the drawback is is that you cant have overheads. you can only have hidden lights and strobes. you also cants have a siren either

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    I get hammered for getting a scott scba mask and theres kids responding to calls?

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    Quote Originally Posted by station3100kid View Post
    at my department in oregon if you have oober good grades you can respond during school. and you can have ur liscense when ur sixteen. in oregon you cant have blue lights or green. u cant have green cuz ur not gonna be able to be a incident commander. but you can have orange, red, or white lights the drawback is is that you cant have overheads. you can only have hidden lights and strobes. you also cants have a siren either
    Let's hope you aren't in the group that gets to leave school, becuase from the looks of that post, you need all the schooling you can get.
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