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    Default Techincal rescue personel....

    Hello everyone, hope your having a good day.

    I know in some departments there are units specifically assigned to a rescue unit that specifically responds to high angle. confined space, rappel rescues and so forth. The county fire department I serve with does not have "rescue" personnel parse. The city department near us respond for any type of true rescue situation we may get, which is not very often, but does happen. The last one I could think of occurred about 2 months ago where a guy had a heart attack while he was working on a crane. Anyways, here is my question....

    I never really thought about doing any kind of specialized rescue. I basically thought I would just ride an engine and put out fire, lol. Here in Mississippi the fire academy has a certification called CARS (Certified Advanced Rescue Specialist). Obviously it would be a good certification to have, but for a department that does not run many technical rescue calls do you think it would be worth the time to get it?

    Thanks for any advice. Stay safe.

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    Believe me you can not have too much training, what you can and will learn can be used when you least expect it. A little saying I have have is "When I'm done training I'll be dead and buried" Plus it will put a feather in your cap come advancement time.
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    Technical rescue training can be used in every aspect of the fire service. I always advise every member to take any and all training offered to them. Just because your department doesnt have a technical rescue team doesnt mean that your training will go to waste. Sometimes knowing what should be done takes a back seat to what shouldnt be done. In othe words, knowing what NOT to do is often just as important as knowing what to do. Having the basic knowledge to help keep others safe is often overlooked. I would advise you to take the training. Then when a team does eventually form, you can hit the ground running, so to speak.
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    I would second what has been said already about never having too much training. You never know when something you have learned outside of the fire service or even training that nobody else in your department has will come in handy. I have US&R training but I am not on a regional team but you never know when you might need the training.

    Case in point, I have a strong background in computers. One day we had a call to a local radio station that had an electrical issue. We didn't know if there was a fire, but we were smelling burning electrical wires. The chief wanted to completely turn the power off, but that would have taken the radio station completely offline, costing them money. Their engineer was gone for the day and not answering his cell. Luckily I saw that all of their computers were on UPS backup batteries. (Computers run the station) We were able to shut down certain parts of the station and run extension cords (no that was NOT code) to the computers and quickly transfer power onto, and then off of the batteries. Had I not known what a UPS was (they were fairly new at the time) and caught that, my fellow FF's would have pulled the power cords from the UPS units and the station would have been off the air for at least 5-10 minutes and then another 10-20 catching up for the time that was lost.

    Knowledge saved the day and we found a short in the electrical wiring that we were able to prevent from causing a major fire. In addition, the radio station manager was pretty darn happy! Chalk up another PR point.

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    I have enjoyed all of the technical rescue classes that I have taken. While some of the skills you learn may not be applicable to what you do every day, there is a lot of info that will apply to everyday fire department ops - air monitoring, HAZMAT, etc.

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    Thanks for your responses. I am definably looking at taking some rescue classes in the near future. Your right, even if I am not on a "rescue unit" the training will always be helpful.

    Thanks again for the advice.

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    Thumbs up From A Rescue Instructor...............

    A Good Discussion....... Yes, Rescue Training can be used "Across the Board", not just in Rescue work. And that's a good thing, since even very busy departments go for a time between Rescue calls. Our County Wide Tech Rescue Team goes for a week or more between calls, and that's an area of 450 Square Miles and 850,000 People. Tones, BBL.
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    Absolutely. I've worked for a ladder company, engine companies and for the past 5 yrs a rescue / RIT crew. The skill sets and techniques taught are an invaluable set of tools that can be applied across the board. I started as a volunteer in a rural area and eventually ended up in a larger municipal department in Michigan. Believe me both environmetns can present technical rescue situations. Aside from the general increased lknowledge and skills builds confidence and differnt set of techniques to approach things from on the Fire Ground, invaluable.

    All of our RIT/RIC crew members had to complete a similar training. It's worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hwoods View Post
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