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    Arrow Those Dam Beavers

    No, not the letter to the Engineering Department, but pretty close. And this is a real incident.

    Beavers blamed for likely bank failure

    Carolyn Jones, Chronicle Staff Writer Tuesday, September 30, 2008

    Martinez' celebrity beavers may have gnawed through the city's last stick of patience.

    The City Council, under threat of litigation from creekside property owners, is slated Wednesday night to approve spending $500,000 to drive giant steel pilings into the beaver-ravaged creek banks - a project beaver advocates say is certain to force out the relentless rodents who took up residence in Alhambra Creek 18 months ago.

    "The beavers are turning the bank into cottage cheese," said Martinez City Manager Philip Vince. "Will it be disruptive to the beavers? Yes, of course. But the bottom line is, we have a lot of creek instability and we've been watching it happen for some time."

    The two adult and six young beavers - whose nocturnal antics have garnered regional fanfare - have burrowed into the banks of Alhambra Creek in downtown Martinez, tunneling under retaining walls and endangering two creekside buildings on Escobar Street, including Louis Bertola's restaurant and the county elections office, {hahahahaaha} city staff said.

    The buildings' owner, the Dunivan family, recently threatened to sue the city over the erosion, prompting the city to hire Walnut Creek geotechnical engineer Phillip Gregory to look at the beavers' alleged damage. Gregory concluded there is a "high likelihood" of the retaining walls collapsing during moderate creek flows.

    The City Council is set to approve an emergency plan to stabilize the creek by installing steel pilings into the eastern bank between Escobar and Marina Vista streets. The pilings would shore up the bank and not require the removal of the beavers' 30-foot dam or two nearby lodges.

    Still, the construction could be perilously traumatic for the busy rodents, beaver supporters say.

    "We are absolutely opposed to this," said Heidi Perryman, president of the nonprofit Worth a Dam, which advocates on behalf of the beavers. "The idea that the beavers are digging tunnels under the retaining wall is a total fabrication. The beavers are not running jewelry heists under the city of Martinez." {Or are they???? }

    Beavers do not burrow unless they're building a new lodge, which isn't likely to occur until mating season, she said. The beavers already have two lodges and a 30-foot dam near Escobar Street, plus two more dams further downstream. Even if they were building a third lodge, the beavers would only dig briefly to create an underwater passageway into their mud-and-stick home, Perryman said.

    "There's no proof that the beavers are burrowing under the retaining wall," she said. "This is an extreme measure to take."

    Worth a Dam has hired its own lawyer, wildlife preservation specialist Michael Graf of El Cerrito, and also threatened to sue the city for allegedly violating the California Environmental Quality Act.

    Worth a Dam would like the city to verify the tunnel theory with radar before it disrupts the beavers' habitat.

    "Until the city proves to me the beavers are building tunnels I'm calling them liars," said Linda Meza, Worth a Dam vice president. "It's impossible that they're tunneling under the retaining wall."

    The Dunivan family and their attorney did not return phone calls Monday.

    The threatened buildings are 610 and 611 Escobar. The Dunivan family leases 610 Escobar, a modern, 15,000-square-foot office building, to Contra Costa County to store elections records and equipment. Bertola's, at 611 Escobar, is a two-story Victorian.

    Alhambra Creek has a long history of flooding downtown Martinez, and several years ago the city undertook a $10 million flood control project to keep the downtown antique shops and county buildings dry in winter.

    The project was nearly finished when a pair of beavers from the delta swam up the creek and decided to settle in. In spring 2007, they had three babies, two of which survived, and last spring they had four more.

    The older two kits can be seen playing with their siblings, sometimes letting them ride on their backs across the creek, Perryman said.

    Schoolkids, tourists and nature enthusiasts often crowd the Escobar bridge to watch the busy critters, and several merchants have started selling beaver coffee mugs, T-shirts and toys.

    "The beavers seem healthy and happy," Perryman said. "They have no idea the amount of danger that lurks."

    E-mail Carolyn Jones at carolynjones@sfchronicle.com.

    This article appeared on page B - 1 of the San Francisco Chronicle


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    In 2002,I got pulled over while crossing the Kentucky Dam going over the 35 mph posted limit.
    The dam cop gave me a dam ticket,so I had to go see the dam Judge in Livingston County Kentucky,for a dam hearing where I had to pay a dam fine to the dam clerk.Guess I should not have been overheard saying that I didn't give a dam while waiting my dam case to be called by the dam bailiff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doughesson View Post
    In 2002,I got pulled over while crossing the Kentucky Dam going over the 35 mph posted limit.
    The dam cop gave me a dam ticket,so I had to go see the dam Judge in Livingston County Kentucky,for a dam hearing where I had to pay a dam fine to the dam clerk.Guess I should not have been overheard saying that I didn't give dam while waiting my dam case to be called by the dam bailiff.
    Note to self: One should not try to talk to business on the phone, while reading Doug's posts.

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    I had to open this thread carefully since I believed it to be one of those catchy adult film titles like Saving Ryan's Privates.
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    Save some money, and keep your head warm at the same time. I hear that beavers make nice hats. In short, KILL THE BEAVERS!

    Stories like this show that no matter how bad you think things in the world are(pending Wall St. collapse), that things must not realy be that bad after all, when dumb***** can worry about stupid ***** like upsetting the wildlife.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MalahatTwo7 View Post
    Note to self: One should not try to talk to business on the phone, while reading Doug's posts.
    I hate to say it but this time you made it too easy for me.Livingston County,Ky really does have a special court for traffic offenses committed on Kentucky Dam.I've been there.
    At work,one of our dock barges has a colony of beavers down in the hull.The barge's stability and flotation are not compromised so the hole that they get in and out through has never been repaired.We refer to them as"The Twelve Angry Beavers" because everytime someone goes down into the barge to root them out,he gets chased by the whole pack of them.We think they have gone feral and usually just stay out of their way.
    But,every once in a while,some new hire wants to show us all how tough he is and goes to get rid of the critters.(shudders) And that's the last time anyone ever saw poor Jimmy Kretchmer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doughesson View Post
    In 2002,I got pulled over while crossing the Kentucky Dam going over the 35 mph posted limit.
    The dam cop gave me a dam ticket,so I had to go see the dam Judge in Livingston County Kentucky,for a dam hearing where I had to pay a dam fine to the dam clerk.Guess I should not have been overheard saying that I didn't give a dam while waiting my dam case to be called by the dam bailiff.
    That was a dam shame, if you ask me. Just how fast were you going over the dam limit?
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    Default For a really good laugh.......

    Check out this dam letter to some dam beavers from the dam code enforcement people.........

    http://www.snopes.com/humor/letters/dammed.asp
    "Loyalty Above all Else. Except Honor."

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    Quote Originally Posted by FWDbuff View Post
    Check out this dam letter to some dam beavers from the dam code enforcement people.........

    http://www.snopes.com/humor/letters/dammed.asp
    This story was the genus for my thread title.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhvfd1214 View Post
    That was a dam shame, if you ask me. Just how fast were you going over the dam limit?
    Sir,it is my understanding that you cannot ask me such questions under the grounds that my answer may tend to incriminate me.
    I was doing 40 in a 35 mph zone.My wheelchair bus was unloaded and so was not granted the extra five miles an hour usually accorded transit vehicles with passengers aboard by Kentucky law enforcement.
    Usually,I could blast down I-24 at 70+mph with my passengers(both mentally and physically handicapped) and I singing along with Molly Hatchet "I'm travelin' down the road just flirtin' with disaster!" blowing out the windows and no cop,Sheriff's Deputy or Kentucky State Trooper would even reach for his lightbar switches.
    However,I'd hear about it from the residential managers and the mental health workshop employees about how my passengers used to sing Gospel songs and after a month of riding with me,suddenly they're singing Mickey Gilley cheating songs and they wanted to know why.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FWDbuff View Post
    Check out this dam letter to some dam beavers from the dam code enforcement people.........

    http://www.snopes.com/humor/letters/dammed.asp
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