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    October 17, 2008, 1:33 pm
    Palin Touts the ‘Pro-America’ Areas of the Country
    Elizabeth Holmes reports from West Chester, Ohio on the presidential race.

    Like most campaigning politicians, Sarah Palin often praises the places she travels to, reminding her supporters what’s so great about their particular spot in the country.

    Palin often lists off a bunch of adjectives to describe the locale, like calling the scenery “beautiful.” She’s also fond of saying that the people in a particular place “just get it.”

    At a fund-raiser in North Carolina Thursday evening, she added a new one to the list: “pro-America.”

    “We believe that the best of America is not all in Washington, D.C.,” she said to applause.

    “We believe that the best of America is in these small towns that we get to visit, and in these wonderful little pockets of what I call the real America, being here with all of you hard working very patriotic, um, very, um, pro-America areas of this great nation. This is where we find the kindness and the goodness and the courage of everyday Americans.”

    The comment prompted Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton to send this e-mail to reporters: “Just asking: What part of the country isn’t pro-America?”

    http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/1...f-the-country/

    I'm happy that Guvnuh Palin thinks I live in the "Pro-America" part of the country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geinandputitout View Post
    October 17, 2008, 1:33 pm
    Palin Touts the ‘Pro-America’ Areas of the Country
    Elizabeth Holmes reports from West Chester, Ohio on the presidential race.

    Like most campaigning politicians, Sarah Palin often praises the places she travels to, reminding her supporters what’s so great about their particular spot in the country.

    Palin often lists off a bunch of adjectives to describe the locale, like calling the scenery “beautiful.” She’s also fond of saying that the people in a particular place “just get it.”

    At a fund-raiser in North Carolina Thursday evening, she added a new one to the list: “pro-America.”

    “We believe that the best of America is not all in Washington, D.C.,” she said to applause.

    “We believe that the best of America is in these small towns that we get to visit, and in these wonderful little pockets of what I call the real America, being here with all of you hard working very patriotic, um, very, um, pro-America areas of this great nation. This is where we find the kindness and the goodness and the courage of everyday Americans.”

    The comment prompted Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton to send this e-mail to reporters: “Just asking: What part of the country isn’t pro-America?”

    http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/1...f-the-country/

    I'm happy that Guvnuh Palin thinks I live in the "Pro-America" part of the country.
    Of course she would probably recognize that there are anti-Americans, like you, living in those locales.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
    Of course she would probably recognize that there are anti-Americans, like you, living in those locales.
    Nice job George. You have finally sunk to the lowest of the low, but coming from you it is a complement. Go back to the undisclosed location. It was nicer without you around.

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    Palin continues to be a disaster for the ticket.

    Heck, Joe the Plumber (even though his name isn't Joe and he isn't a plumber and he doesn't make anywhere near the threshold that cause his taxes to increase under Obama's plan) has done more interviews than Palin.

    Quote Originally Posted by Geinandputitout View Post
    Nice job George. You have finally sunk to the lowest of the low, but coming from you it is a complement. Go back to the undisclosed location. It was nicer without you around.
    Don't be too hard on George. He's just an angry man. He's like that crazy homeless guy (screaming incoherently) you might meet walking down the street. Don't make eye contact and keep going like nothing's happened.
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    Move your pointer over objects and click to see what pops up. (have the sound up)

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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    Palin continues to be a disaster for the ticket.
    Look she did what she was intended to do. Get the Republican base all worked up and let McCain talk to the rest of the world.

    Heck, Joe the Plumber (even though his name isn't Joe and he isn't a plumber and he doesn't make anywhere near the threshold that cause his taxes to increase under Obama's plan) has done more interviews than Palin.
    His middle name is Joe. He probably goes by Joe more times than not. He works as a plumber therefore he are one, and WHEN he does buy out his boss a quarter million dollars to the company which will probably be JOE dba whatever plumbing company will be a quarter million dollars to JOE. He has done more interviews than Palin, and that's probably a good thing.

    Don't be too hard on George. He's just an angry man. He's like that crazy homeless guy (screaming incoherently) you might meet walking down the street. Don't make eye contact and keep going like nothing's happened.
    Don't be too hard on George. He stands up for his beliefs. He has his mind made up and unless you can show him factually otherwise he's not changing it. He is also fairly entertaining when he gets on a roll.
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    Typical liberal spin
    On Friday, Palin clarified her comments.

    "It's all pro-America. I was just reinforcing the fact that there, where I was, there's good patriotic people there in these rallies, so excited about positive change and reform of government that's coming that they are so appreciative of hearing our message, hearing our plan. Not any one area of America is more pro-America patriotically than others," she said.
    And she isw 100% right. Washington D.C. is out of touch with America.

    The comment prompted Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton to send this e-mail to reporters: “Just asking: What part of the country isn’t pro-America?”
    Simple Answer: Washington D.C. We could also through in all of the socialist areas in this country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScareCrow57 View Post
    Typical liberal spin

    And she isw 100% right. Washington D.C. is out of touch with America.



    Simple Answer: Washington D.C. We could also through in all of the socialist areas in this country.
    Let's be clear. Is it all of Washington DC or just a few senators and congressman. You surely don't mean Washington DC as a whole?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geinandputitout View Post
    Let's be clear. Is it all of Washington DC or just a few senators and congressman. You surely don't mean Washington DC as a whole?
    This is correct. I'm speaking about the part of Washington DC we refer to as the U.S. Government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTKROUSH View Post
    Look she did what she was intended to do. Get the Republican base all worked up and let McCain talk to the rest of the world.
    Folks that were going to vote for McCain anyway. She didn't add anything. Which is what McCain needed.

    Quote Originally Posted by MTKROUSH View Post
    His middle name is Joe. He probably goes by Joe more times than not. He works as a plumber therefore he are one, and WHEN he does buy out his boss a quarter million dollars to the company which will probably be JOE dba whatever plumbing company will be a quarter million dollars to JOE. He has done more interviews than Palin, and that's probably a good thing.
    He isn't licensed. I made the mistake of hiring a non-licensed plumber. Wouldn't do it again.

    Quote Originally Posted by MTKROUSH View Post
    Don't be too hard on George. He stands up for his beliefs. He has his mind made up and unless you can show him factually otherwise he's not changing it. He is also fairly entertaining when he gets on a roll.
    Baloney. I've presented him with facts that are directly contrary to his idiotic opinions he hasn't changed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScareCrow57 View Post
    Simple Answer: Washington D.C. We could also through in all of the socialist areas in this country.
    The irony being those socialist areas of the country subsidize the so-called "real" America.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    The irony being those socialist areas of the country subsidize the so-called "real" America.
    I don't believe that. You will need to post your supporting data.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScareCrow57 View Post
    I don't believe that. You will need to post your supporting data.
    I already have several times. You should be able to find it with a simple Google search.

    It'll be good for you to find this information on your own.

    There's only one of me. But there's a new right wing nut case like you every week demanding proof.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    He isn't licensed. I made the mistake of hiring a non-licensed plumber. Wouldn't do it again.
    You're right, he's an apprentice and has been since November of 2003. He's working under his boss, who is licensed. In another couple of months, he'll have the necessary 5-years experience to apply for his own license.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    I already have several times. You should be able to find it with a simple Google search.

    It'll be good for you to find this information on your own.

    There's only one of me. But there's a new right wing nut case like you every week demanding proof.
    Sorry friend, all I can find is stuff that talks to states. I found one that talks to the tax burden per capita Total tax Burden But nothing speaking to rural vs urban areas.

    And shame on those right wing folks for actually wanting proof and not going by someones line of BS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScareCrow57 View Post
    And shame on those right wing folks for actually wanting proof and not going by someones line of BS.
    I've also posted it on these boards. Sorry if you missed it.

    It's very easy to find for a person of average intelligence.

    I guess that doesn't include you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    Folks that were going to vote for McCain anyway. She didn't add anything. Which is what McCain needed.
    We do not honestly have those numbers. We have assumptions of the news media. We have those personal testimonies of people cherry picked by the news media to voice their opinion and poll numbers. Poll numbers could show Goofy leading Daffy Duck by 6 points in the morning. Who really knows what she has or hasn't done. None of us are the so-called experts.

    He isn't licensed. I made the mistake of hiring a non-licensed plumber. Wouldn't do it again.
    And that he is not licensed does not mean a thing about the jack *** you hired my friend. I use a un licensed plumber all the time. All his work is done on time, nothing leaks and he don't rape me on labor rates.

    Baloney. I've presented him with facts that are directly contrary to his idiotic opinions he hasn't changed.
    And some say the same thing about your opinions and what you sometimes call facts that come from MSNBC and the Huff Post. Just as I do you, I admire George for not backing off his convictions no matter how unpopular or sometimes mistaken they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    I've also posted it on these boards. Sorry if you missed it.

    It's very easy to find for a person of average intelligence.

    I guess that doesn't include you.
    Or perhaps you think that the state by state statistic will do the job. I'm looking for finer granularity that shows urbanites pay more in taxes than Rural people. In fact, you will find that the cash flows from rural America into the cities. The cities have things like Huge Police and Fire Departments. They have Mass Transit that is subsidized by the rural Americans. They have huge slums sucking tons of money out the welfare system. So you my friend are wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScareCrow57 View Post
    Or perhaps you think that the state by state statistic will do the job. I'm looking for finer granularity that shows urbanites pay more in taxes than Rural people. In fact, you will find that the cash flows from rural America into the cities. The cities have things like Huge Police and Fire Departments. They have Mass Transit that is subsidized by the rural Americans. They have huge slums sucking tons of money out the welfare system. So you my friend are wrong.
    Could you please provide proof to back up these statments?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTKROUSH View Post
    We do not honestly have those numbers. We have assumptions of the news media. We have those personal testimonies of people cherry picked by the news media to voice their opinion and poll numbers. Poll numbers could show Goofy leading Daffy Duck by 6 points in the morning. Who really knows what she has or hasn't done. None of us are the so-called experts.
    Then what has she added if not the base that was going to vote for McCain anyway?

    Quote Originally Posted by MTKROUSH View Post
    And that he is not licensed does not mean a thing about the jack *** you hired my friend. I use a un licensed plumber all the time. All his work is done on time, nothing leaks and he don't rape me on labor rates.
    The licensed plumber I use for my residence and rentals has been nothing less than exemplary. Sorry about your experience.


    Quote Originally Posted by MTKROUSH View Post
    And some say the same thing about your opinions and what you sometimes call facts that come from MSNBC and the Huff Post. Just as I do you, I admire George for not backing off his convictions no matter how unpopular or sometimes mistaken they are.
    I've never used the Huff Post. You have me mistaken for someone else. At least you recognize George's opinions are mistaken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScareCrow57 View Post
    Or perhaps you think that the state by state statistic will do the job. I'm looking for finer granularity that shows urbanites pay more in taxes than Rural people. In fact, you will find that the cash flows from rural America into the cities. The cities have things like Huge Police and Fire Departments. They have Mass Transit that is subsidized by the rural Americans. They have huge slums sucking tons of money out the welfare system. So you my friend are wrong.
    You've asked for proof of my facts which I have posted more than once.

    I'd like to see yours.

    I'd really like to see proof that rural areas are subsidizing the cities.

    Cities have huge PD, FD, and mass transit systems because people (taxpayers) live in cities.

    So please put forth your "facts." I can't wait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    Baloney. I've presented him with facts that are directly contrary to his idiotic opinions he hasn't changed.
    You can keep saying this, but it will not come true. You do not present facts. You present your opinion, backed up by unreliable sources and opinion pieces. I've proven that time and again as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geinandputitout View Post
    Could you please provide proof to back up these statments?
    Our friend SC first made the opposite comment, I believe he is wrong. Yet when asked to prove his point he puts on the dancing shoes and says he already supplied it. I don't have proof, nor can I find it. All you will find is a state by state comparison. I want to compare rural vs urban. Reason being is that Urban areas are typically democratic and urban areas are republican.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    You've asked for proof of my facts which I have posted more than once.

    I'd like to see yours.

    I'd really like to see proof that rural areas are subsidizing the cities.

    Cities have huge PD, FD, and mass transit systems because people (taxpayers) live in cities.

    So please put forth your "facts." I can't wait.
    Here is a research paper on the subject
    Tax Element in Urban and Rural Expenditures

    Abstract
    Per capita rural consumer expenditures have been generally lower than corresponding urban expenditures. The burden of indirect taxes is thus lower in the more agricultural States. Also, since land revenue is the basic tax in the rural sector and its burden is small, the majority of agricultural States are considerably under-taxed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScareCrow57 View Post
    Here is a research paper on the subject
    Tax Element in Urban and Rural Expenditures
    When you have something more significant than the abstract it might be worth a read. I could just as easily conclude the abstract indicates rural areas are undertaxed given the levels of service or infrastructure they require.

    That being said, it was you that stated back here:

    As a college graduate, both my friend and I, we have done research projects. In fact, we do research on a regular basis in our jobs. So yes, we know how easily it is to manipulate the research to get the results that are desired. And even if the results aren't exactly what you want, you can say it differently to send a different message.

    I'd like to know which college you attended or professor allowed you to draw a conclusion based upon one sentence. You should get your money back (even though it was paid for by the taxpayer), or just accept the fact that no one takes your research with any degree of seriousness.

    The study I posted on this forum in another thread dealt with the amount of federal paid by states vs those received by states. The majority of donor states (those who paid more than they receive) were from states with very large urban areas. Guess what? The majority of the recipient states (those who received more than they paid) were from states that are considered rural areas. So unless you want to make the bogus claim the rural areas in the donor states are carrying the load for everyone else your premise is pretty much bogus.
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