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    If you are looking for a good book to prepare you for the written examination, you should consider a book I wrote called Smoke Your Firefighter Written Exam.
    My book goes beyond providing sample questions and answers. It teaches the reader the basic rules and principles behind the questions; in other words, how to solve each complex problem. The reasoning behind the questions is presented in clear, easily understandable language for readers who are new to the topics, or simply require a review.
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    They had things moving very quickly today. Got my application in before they were even supposed to start at 8:00 AM. Test should be sometime in March.

    I really like this city. Definitely one of my favorites now. Unfortunately, it's time to go back to the freezing cold temperatures and snow in Milwaukee.

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    The info we recieved on Lotus Notes last night was that there might be a freeze on the hiring process, might be more brown outs of companies, and reduction in force of chiefs aides and civillian employees. More info will be known tomorrow. Big meeting with board of supervisors, L-798, general public, and who knows who else. It'll be at city hall at 1100 in RM 250. This is all due to the budget crisis. Keep fingers crossed but dont put all your eggs in 1 basket.
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    anyone care to share what they turned in (application + resume/cover letter etc)? I'm turning my app in tomorrow but I'm debating on if i should make a cover letter along with my resume, as i have heard cover letters are pointless in an entry level fire fighter job because they wont read it. thanks in advance. good luck to all the SFFD applicants!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptBob View Post
    Since 100% of making it through the cut to the list is going to be on your written score what are you going to do to prepare. Don McNea Fire School has reviewed the SFFD information and determined it will be a FSI written test.

    You can prepare in advance by checking out this program from FirePrep.com:

    http://www.fireprep.com/san_francisc...hter_entr.html
    capt bob, is it the 7th ed. or 8th ed. FSI Test?

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    I know you guys are focused in on SF Fire, but if you really want to relocate here, LA City and LA County are both constantly hiring for FIREFIGHTER.

    Find it on their websites or hit me up in a PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CALFFBOU View Post
    I know you guys are focused in on SF Fire, but if you really want to relocate here, LA City and LA County are both constantly hiring for FIREFIGHTER.

    Find it on their websites or hit me up in a PM.

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    I tested with LA City. I got dropped after the Initial Panel. I'll be calling soon to schedule an interview since I get another try one year after my last.(Feb) I recently applied with LA County, but of course they randomly pick who tests with a computer.

    Definitely would like to work in California. I'm willing to do as much as I can, but I live in Milwaukee. With school and these tests, there's only so many that I can afford.

    It actually cost me more than I thought with San Francisco since my plane broke down for 6 hours and I missed my connecting flight in Kansas City.

    I just got a phone call yesterday though from DC Fire Dept to come out for orientation Jan 3 to start my Blue Book(background). So at least all of the traveling is finally going to be worth it. It's all out of my hands now with them since I only have backgrounds, medical, and psych(well if I lie about always beating up old ladies :-) ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by CALFFBOU View Post
    I know you guys are focused in on SF Fire, but if you really want to relocate here, LA City and LA County are both constantly hiring for FIREFIGHTER.

    Find it on their websites or hit me up in a PM.

    Bou
    Hmmm...maybe there's a reason why both LA's are always hiring.

    Seriously though, they are great departments too. If you want a job in Califorinia without snow, test everywhere. If you are looking for a specific type of department, SF is more old school like Boston and New York. Down south they are your West Coast progressives. LA City is the home of task forces and LA County has its paramedic squads. They also both use the plastic metro helmets.

    A good job in a big city is great anywhere you look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddsnff View Post
    Hmmm...maybe there's a reason why both LA's are always hiring.

    They also both use the plastic metro helmets.

    Ok- Here we go.

    Both "LA's" have not always been hiring. This is some what new to them. They are they now accepting applications on a constant basis. Because they are both very big and expereincing a high retirement rate. It is just easier to have a constant open position ran vs. the constant off and on.

    As for the helmets worn, give me a break. Does the department's issued PPE really dictate whether you should work there or not?

    Folks- We're talking becoming REAL Professional Firefighters here. Not "non-paid" country-bumpkin, blue light time. Give me pay, benefits, paid vacation, good equipment, 3% @50 retirement and job security instead of letting something like that be the final factor. And besides, if you havent worn it, dont knock it. There might be a reason.
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    Got the app in today. The line was much longer due to the fact that there was only a 3 day window to turn in...me in my infinite wisdowm wore shorts! Good luck to everyone, i'll update with any info I gain during the hiring process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CALFFBOU View Post
    Ok- Here we go.

    Both "LA's" have not always been hiring. This is some what new to them. They are they now accepting applications on a constant basis. Because they are both very big and expereincing a high retirement rate. It is just easier to have a constant open position ran vs. the constant off and on.

    As for the helmets worn, give me a break. Does the department's issued PPE really dictate whether you should work there or not. Give me pay, benefits and job security instead of letting something like that be the final factor. And besides, if you havent owrn it, dont knock it. There might be a reason.

    Of course hear is important. I only take a job with black Morning Pride turnouts. Anything else means you are a bad department.

    Actually when I visted a few LA City fire houses before my interview, they seemed to be some of the happiest firefighters ever. Most loved their job and the department. They were all more than happy to help me out with the interview. I'd love to work for any of the three mentioned departments.(LAFD, LAcoFD, or SFFD)

    One thing I loved about LAFD was the fact that there is so much to do. They don't have just heavy rescues. They have USAR, swiftwater, wildfire, dive, helicopter, hazmat, and more. I thought that was interesting.

    Last, these California firefighters really do get treated well. I know it's expensive, but so it New York City. SFFD starts at about $70k and FDNY at about $30k. If I get on with DC I start at $44k and it's about the same cost of living as LA, maybe a little less than SF.

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    When it comes to working in California, please do not let the "cost of living" Boogie Man scare you.

    It is very possible to live here, buy a nice house and have a comfortable life. Trust me, thousands of paid FFs do it here every month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CALFFBOU View Post
    When it comes to working in California, please do not let the "cost of living" Boogie Man scare you.

    It is very possible to live here, buy a nice house and have a comfortable life. Trust me, thousands of paid FFs do it here every month.
    From what I've been told by a lot of firefighters at that they live VERY well in CA. Whereas east coast guys don't get paid very well and struggle a little more. That's definitely one advantage I see to being a CA firefighter.

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    I will jump in on this one. California firefighters have some of the best pay and benefit packages in the country. Most of our firefighters do not have a "second" job as they make plenty of $$ working overtime.

    The cities have learned that it's cheaper to hire us back at time and one half, than to hire a new employee.

    The most prevalent retirement is with CalPers. This privately owned retirement system is one of the most solvent retirement plans in the world. Depending on the department, firefighters retire at 90% of their salary. In my department's case, a 30 year firefighter retires at 90%.

    Many California firefighters are paid white collar wages for a blue collar job. While this does not apply to all fire departments, it cerainly applies to many of the major california departments like San Francisco, LA County, LA City, Sacramento, Long Beach, Glendale, Burbank, Pasadena, Torrance.....
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    Does anybody have an idea as to how many people applied for the written?? I have heard around 10,000 but that could just be rumor or speculation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nomex82 View Post
    Does anybody have an idea as to how many people applied for the written?? I have heard around 10,000 but that could just be rumor or speculation.
    The city of Oakland FD just had over 10,000 apply.

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    I would guess that the number 10,000 will be on the low side. I would bet the number to be much higher.

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    From what I heard about some people though, they just applied because it was a city job and liked the pay. So these people were eligible o apply and probably thought the GED or diploma was all that is needed. However, if you make i to backgrounds, you need your EMT and CPAT. So my guess is that several don't have EMT completed.

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    Buddy of mine at SFFD said that 40,000 online interest cards were filled out. Not sure how many actually signed up to take the test; my guess would be far less.

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    I just read an article on ABC7 news, one of our local Bay Area news channel's. It said on there that they handed out 14,000 applications. Who knows how many of those actually got handed in. I know of buddies that grabbed 5 and only used 1. I'm sure there will be quite a few apps. out there that never got turned in. Also, people wont show for the written and quite a few will fail it too. Numbers might not be as astronomical as everybody thought.

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    I just got off the phone with a family friend that works at HQ in The City. From the horses mouth (Exam Unit), they had 8,600 applications turned in. They handed out 12,000-13,000 applications. Pretty amazing. Everyone was expecting FDNY type numbers on this one (20,000). Just thought I'd let you guys know.

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    Thanks for the info JUSTWIN. That's encouraging news!

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    i grabbed 2 but only turned in 1. They told me when i turned my app in that i will get something in the mail sometime in feb for testing in march. how is everyone preparing for the written? i was thinking of getting a study guide from one of the vendors on here. can anyone vouch for any of those?

    Also good luck to all the applicants on this board, i hope everyone that turned in an app gets hired from here...

    -Brandon
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    Houston we have a problem. Rumor on the street is there were 8,600 applications handed in. Some cadidates picked up applications and copied them to hand out to their friends. The originals were special paper so they could be scanned. The copies won't scan so they might be thrown out.

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    I have a lot of friends that turned in, "Copied" apps, tough luck. This will be a competitive test, with all the budget problems currently projected.

    There will be an awfully large amount of swimmers jumping into a very small swimming pool! Good luck, San Francisco is a fantastic city to live and work in...unless you don't like dealing with homeless.

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