Barack Obama mocks McCain's 'socialism' attacks: "Next thing you you know, he'll be accusing me of being a secret communist because I shared my toys in Kindergarten!"
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10-29-2008, 05:21 PM #1Forum Member
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Obama Admits Sharing Toys As Kindergartner
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The state that she governs has no income or sales tax. Instead, it imposes huge levies on the oil companies that lease its oil fields. The proceeds finance the government’s activities and enable it to issue a four-figure annual check to every man, woman, and child in the state. One of the reasons Palin has been a popular governor is that she added an extra twelve hundred dollars to this year’s check, bringing the per-person total to $3,269. A few weeks before she was nominated for Vice-President, she told a visiting journalist—Philip Gourevitch, of this magazine—that "we’re set up, unlike other states in the union, where it’s collectively Alaskans own the resources. So we share in the wealth when the development of these resources occurs."
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Tell me you're not desperate enough to try to compare giving citizens a check from the sale natural resources (this is called a "dividend" in the private sector) to increasing taxes on one group of people to give it to another group (income redistribution). There's a HUGE difference there.
Nice try to spin it, though, no matter how far out in left field it may be.
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10-29-2008, 07:34 PM #4
Not really. The royalty is one thing, the windfall profits tax--passed by the Alaksa legislature and signed into law by Governor Palin--is quite another. The windfall profits tax was written with an escalator clause to provide an increasing amount of tax revenue to the state as the price of oil rose.
Thus, the adult citizens of the state of Alaska received an additional $1,600--above and beyond the $2,000 royalty check every man, woman and child in Alaska receives annually. Palin boasts of that $1,600 payment in her stump speeches when she refers to money she "gave back" the the Alaskan people when they were hurting from the high cost of gas.
We are discussing two completely different sources of revenue, and the windfall profits tax fairly defines "redistribution of wealth". Thus, the incredible irony of Palin speaking snarkily about Obama's supposed plan to redistribute wealth through his tax plan when she has actually accomplished such a feat within her own state.Politics is like driving. To go forward select "D", to go backward select "R."
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Obama didn't attend Kindergarden.
He attended Taman Kanak-kanak.
And it's fine if he shares his toys, but did he force the other kids to share theirs as well?The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened. --Norman Mattoon Thomas, 6 time presidential candidate for the Socialist Party of America
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10-30-2008, 08:55 AM #6
"Too many people spend money they haven't earned, to buy things they don't want, to impress people they don't like." Will Rogers
The borrower is slave to the lender. Proverbs 22:7 - Debt free since 10/5/2009.
"No man's life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session." - New York Judge Gideon Tucker
"As Americans we must always remember that we all have a common enemy, an enemy that is dangerous, powerful and relentless. I refer, of course, to the federal government." - Dave Barry
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10-30-2008, 08:58 AM #7
New Hampshire has no sales or income tax either. Your point?
All taxes are raised through corporate taxation and local property taxes - as they should be. Local taxes pay for your schools, police, DPW, EMS, fire, and community improvements.................. ...not the tit of federal government. Much more efficient means of collecting and spending money.
Then again, NH does not have any natural resources that are significant so the refund is not given. And since the people of Alask do own the land, it is theirs, not yours or mine."Too many people spend money they haven't earned, to buy things they don't want, to impress people they don't like." Will Rogers
The borrower is slave to the lender. Proverbs 22:7 - Debt free since 10/5/2009.
"No man's life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session." - New York Judge Gideon Tucker
"As Americans we must always remember that we all have a common enemy, an enemy that is dangerous, powerful and relentless. I refer, of course, to the federal government." - Dave Barry
www.daveramsey.com www.clarkhoward.com www.heritage.org
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10-30-2008, 09:54 AM #8
Nothing like being the first response to your own thread.
He also wrote an essay while attending kindergarten in Indonesia, titled, "I Want to Become President".
The article also goes on to state that a representative of the school stated that, he did not know why the record listed him as a muslim and, ""Senator Obama has never been a Muslim," Gibbs said. "As a six-year-old in Catholic school, he studied the catechism."Obama's mother, divorced from Obama's father, married a man from Indonesia named Lolo Soetoro, and the family relocated to the country from 1967-71. At first, Obama attended the Catholic school, Fransiskus Assisis, where documents showed he enrolled as a Muslim, the religion of his stepfather.
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You're kidding, right? Big Oil is going to do nothing but pass the tax on to it's customers, eat the extra costs and write it up as a cost of doing business, or find some way to use it as a tax deduction, whereas Joe making $250K.... no, wait, $200K per year (until the Messiah changes his mind again) does not have that opportunity. No one's wage at the Big Oil company is going to decrease, nor their livelihood or family budget, like will happen with Obama's plan.
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