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    Greetings to all of you guys in the military. You have my greatest admiration.
    I am a civilian career FF in North Carolina, but do not know a lot about military FF certifications. My son is in his second week at Parris Island and his wish is to eventually wind up in the fire-crash/rescue program as his MOS. Right now, he is only guaranteed the field, which is aircraft support?, but not the job yet. My question is if any of you know whether or not the training you received as ff in the Corp is IFSAC certified and is accepted as FF I/II in the civilian world, once you have been discharged. My son's desire is to be a career ff in life after military, whenever that may be. No rush on answers, naturally..lol..as he is just getting started, but thought I'd throw that question out there anyway.
    God bless you guys for being willing to lay your lives down in TWO of the most dangerous professions. stay safe.

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    It depends on the needs of the USMC. Everyone is put into the airfield services MOS series and from there they can be assigned to the Aircraft Rescue and Firefighting Specialist MOS. The training in the academy and throughout time spent in the fleet is thru IFSAC and or ProBoard. Depending on what agency and where will depend if the certs. will be accepted after the USMC. Some states accept them and some don't. Just depends. Obviously, as a Federal Firefighter they will be accepted. Best advice I can give is to contact your state's fire marshal office or agency specific. Hope this anwsers your question.

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    I can only tell you of our experience so far - my husband is active duty army as a firefighter. We are stationed at Fort Rucker, AL. From what we understand the fireschool that he went to in Texas offers the certs to the airforce FF but not the Army FF even though they completed the exact same training. Now in the last 6 months they asked everyone to turn in the certificates from the fireschool to take down to headquarters in Texas as they are suppose to be turning those into actual fire credits. One option that my husband has been working on is we transfered his current college classes plus the fireschool credits to columbia southern university and he had to take enough credit hours through them to get the fire certs through that college. Im not sure how all this works for marines but this has been our journey so far. He has two years left and then we are hoping to have everything figured out to work as a civilian FF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donjohnson1128
    Greetings to all of you guys in the military. You have my greatest admiration.
    I am a civilian career FF in North Carolina, but do not know a lot about military FF certifications. My son is in his second week at Parris Island and his wish is to eventually wind up in the fire-crash/rescue program as his MOS. Right now, he is only guaranteed the field, which is aircraft support?, but not the job yet. My question is if any of you know whether or not the training you received as ff in the Corp is IFSAC certified and is accepted as FF I/II in the civilian world, once you have been discharged. My son's desire is to be a career ff in life after military, whenever that may be. No rush on answers, naturally..lol..as he is just getting started, but thought I'd throw that question out there anyway.
    God bless you guys for being willing to lay your lives down in TWO of the most dangerous professions. stay safe.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kristmatt View Post
    I can only tell you of our experience so far - my husband is active duty army as a firefighter. We are stationed at Fort Rucker, AL. From what we understand the fireschool that he went to in Texas offers the certs to the airforce FF but not the Army FF even though they completed the exact same training. Now in the last 6 months they asked everyone to turn in the certificates from the fireschool to take down to headquarters in Texas as they are suppose to be turning those into actual fire credits. One option that my husband has been working on is we transfered his current college classes plus the fireschool credits to columbia southern university and he had to take enough credit hours through them to get the fire certs through that college. Im not sure how all this works for marines but this has been our journey so far. He has two years left and then we are hoping to have everything figured out to work as a civilian FF.

    kristina
    These are 2 completely different issues here, so i will attempt to answer the question correctly.

    Yes, the certs you receive at DoD Fire Academy are IFSAC certs and can be used almost anywhere. There are some states that do not accept IFSAC certs and there is a huge process one may need to go to get your certs accepted.

    Kristina also brings up a completely different issue with the training we receive at the DoD Fire Academy. Some branches of the Military do not
    receive college credits for the class time they spend at the academy. USAF gives 23 credits for the time at the Fire Academy.

    got any more questions, feel free to PM me.

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    Thanks,

    you both have answered questions that I had. NC is an IFSAC state, so it sounds like the training should be accepted here. Thanks for your help.

    Stay safe

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    DoD certs are IFSAC, I have had all mine converted which your son should do as soon as he receives them. At the academy he will attend (Goodfellow AFB, Texas) he will get FF1/2, HazMat Ops/Awareness, and Aircraft Rescue FF which he can switch with no problem.

    The only problems he may have are - He isnt guaranteed CFR. I enlisted (Marines) thinking I was going to be ordnance and luckily ended up CFR. My younger brother just talked to a recruiter about going CFR and everything was closed, so your son may actually end up loading bombs or working on the flight line. Not to drag you down, but thats a possibility.

    The other problem is even though he will have IFSAC certs, he will still have to attend another fire academy when he gets hired on at a department. Certs will help you get hired, but thats only the beginning. If for some reason he never wants to attend another fire academy, he can work on a military base and actually have a step up on others because he has DoD certs already.

    Hope this helps!

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