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    Quote Originally Posted by txgp17 View Post
    People who speak English, as it was the language he spoke in.No need, he spoke candidly about what was on his mind. He said his administration had opportunities to kill Bin Laden, but did not capitalize on them. I don't need a psychic or an interpreter to know what that means.
    Again context is key. A soundbite has much different meaning when the entire conversation is heard. Other than moonbats like you no one has come forth to substantiate this claim.

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    Since you do, I recommend you use the yellow pages to find one.Those who dismissed the case have yet to hear all the facts. It wasn't granted a hearing, thus there is no testimony or evidence presented. A bottle-blond intern knows that, but predictably, you do not.

    You dodged the question before. If Phillip Berg doesn't have standing to bring suit, then who does?
    I'll let you have the last word on this subject other than saying watching folks like you will be entertaining for years.

    Quote Originally Posted by txgp17 View Post
    You're the one who wants to monopolize the world's workforce, enforce strict EPA regulations onto 3rd world nations, and give Universal Healthcare to every person with a pulse. You'll find a whackjob in your bathroom mirror.Once again, you try to put words in my mouth, or you're just too stupid to realize I'm referring to two distinctly different issues. Most likely it's a combination of the two.
    As opposed to you who wants the American workforce brought down to Third World standards. That's appealing.

    Quote Originally Posted by txgp17 View Post
    I did not blame the levee failures on the locals, I provided facts showing that it was not GWB's fault. I'm not saying whose fault it is, I'm saying whose fault it is not. You inability to know the difference surprises no one.

    I do blame the majority of after-the-storm-response failures on the locals, as that was primary their responsibility, not the Federal Government's.
    Once again you can have the last word. I just know the Bush Administration suffered a huge setback because of its Katrina response to the point where the GOP lost control of Congress the following year and continues to be pummelled at the polls.

    Coincidence? You tell me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    As opposed to you who wants the American workforce brought down to Third World standards. That's appealing.
    Once again, you're making False Statements.

    I want wages & benefits to fall where a free market sets them. Anything other than that causes inefficiency in the system.
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    Coincidence? You tell me.
    Holy crap.

    You wanna site "coincidence" to support your point? After all the hocus-pocus you pulled out of a hat to support the illusion that Bush's lifting of the OSD ban had no impact on oil prices, now you want to assert coincidences.

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    What's entertaining about folks like you is the change in attitude. Just a few short years ago conservatives were proclaiming that anyone critical of the President was unpatriotic or Unamerican.

    Now they are all about how dissent is fashionable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    What's entertaining about folks like you is the change in attitude. Just a few short years ago conservatives were proclaiming that anyone critical of the President was unpatriotic or Unamerican.

    Now they are all about how dissent is fashionable.
    Once again, you attempt to put words in another's mouth.

    Show me where I said that being critical of the President is unpatriotic. And American is capitalized in "UnAmerican" you socialist swine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by txgp17 View Post
    Once again, you attempt to put words in another's mouth.

    Show me where I said that being critical of the President is unpatriotic. And American is capitalized in "UnAmerican" you socialist swine.
    I said conservatives. If you never believed that concept to be the case, then I wasn't referring to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    What's entertaining about folks like you is the change in attitude. Just a few short years ago conservatives were proclaiming that anyone critical of the President was unpatriotic or Unamerican.

    Now they are all about how dissent is fashionable.
    Ummm Kettle, meet Pot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by txgp17 View Post
    Once again, you're making False Statements.

    I want wages & benefits to fall where a free market sets them. Anything other than that causes inefficiency in the system.Holy crap.
    So when the government affects wages by increasing and decreasing taxes this is inefficient. Good point. Government taking money from the public is counter productive. For every dollar they take in the people get back 75 cents. The other 25 cents goes to bureaucratic bungling. And provides nothing to the American people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScareCrow57 View Post
    Ummm Kettle, meet Pot.
    How so? I've never said dissent was unpatriotic. It was the basis for how our nation was founded. It was conservatives who were claiming a lack of patriotism, or in some cases outright treason for those who were critical of Bush.

    Now we have conservative handjob Rush Limbaugh saying that he hopes Obama fails.

    Yet he was one of those calling critics of Bush traitors.
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    I have to ask again, SCfire86, why do you spend so much time listening to Limbaugh? Join the rest of us, ignore him and you'll never have to worry about what he says.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bones42 View Post
    I have to ask again, SCfire86, why do you spend so much time listening to Limbaugh? Join the rest of us, ignore him and you'll never have to worry about what he says.
    I don't. That clip was sent to me by someone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    I don't. That clip was sent to me by someone else.
    Well you listen to him infinitely more times than I do. I have never listened to anything he says.

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    When Obama mentions Rush Limbaugh by name, like he did today, then I'm assured Rush is doing his job.

    7 out of the 10 most listened to radio shows are hosted by conservative commentators. source

    People who can think for themselves most likely listen to talk radio, rather than be spoon fed by the liberal dominated mainstream media.
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    Quote Originally Posted by txgp17 View Post
    When Obama mentions Rush Limbaugh by name, like he did today, then I'm assured Rush is doing his job.

    7 out of the 10 most listened to radio shows are hosted by conservative commentators. source

    People who can think for themselves most likely listen to talk radio, rather than be spoon fed by the liberal dominated mainstream media.
    Actually, I would disagree. The talk radio shows tend to spoon feed people. The nice part about the conservative talk shows (which I don't listen to) is they present the opposing views that are presented by the main stream media. Talk shows tend to present facts to the public, so I suspect those who listen to the talk shows are better educated about the issues then those who don't. Of course, there are other means to get ones information, specifically reading the paper, watching the news, and checking the wonderful world wide web of information available to all of us.

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    On another note, I would say Obama is doing a decent job so far. The best proof is that Ms Pelosi and Mr. Reid are not in agreement with the president. Two mistakes so far, Closing Gitmo and funding international abortions. I have no problem taking care of our own, but in these tough economic times we cannot afford to help others with their problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScareCrow57 View Post
    On another note, I would say Obama is doing a decent job so far.
    No one cares what you think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    No one cares what you think.
    At least I can think, you should try it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScareCrow57 View Post
    At least I can think, you should try it.
    Ask me how many times I've gone BK over a credit card balance. Then get back to me over who can think and who doesn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    Ask me how many times I've gone BK over a credit card balance. Then get back to me over who can think and who doesn't.
    Does moral bankruptcy count?

    I am now a past chief and the views, opinions, and comments are mine and mine alone. I do not speak for any department or in any official capacity. Although, they would be smart to listen to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScareCrow57 View Post
    Well you listen to him infinitely more times than I do. I have never listened to anything he says.
    If you have never listened to him, how do you know his opinion of anything?


    The nice part about the conservative talk shows (which I don't listen to) is they present the opposing views that are presented by the main stream media. Talk shows tend to present facts to the public, so I suspect those who listen to the talk shows are better educated about the issues then those who don't.
    So, basically, you are stating that you are not as educated as other people on the issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by txgp17 View Post
    When Obama mentions Rush Limbaugh by name, like he did today, then I'm assured Rush is doing his job.
    If his job is spreading lies about people, then he does it well.

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    7 out of the 10 most listened to radio shows are hosted by conservative commentators. source
    Pretty much shoots a hole in the "liberal" media claim.

    Quote Originally Posted by txgp17 View Post
    People who can think for themselves most likely listen to talk radio, rather than be spoon fed by the liberal dominated mainstream media.
    Really? You base that on what exactly? Where's your proof of this claim other than wishful thinking?
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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    Pretty much shoots a hole in the "liberal" media claim.
    HAHAHAHAHAHA

    That's funny!

    Look at the love fest and obamasms that the media had last week. There is no balance anymore. None.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefKN View Post
    HAHAHAHAHAHA

    That's funny!

    Look at the love fest and obamasms that the media had last week. There is no balance anymore. None.
    He won. An incoming President always gets a honeymoon period from the media.

    Even Bush got one. It just didn't last very long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    Ask me how many times I've gone BK over a credit card balance. Then get back to me over who can think and who doesn't.
    Too many. You get fixated on one little mistake and run with it. WHY??? Because you have nothing else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bones42 View Post
    If you have never listened to him, how do you know his opinion of anything?


    So, basically, you are stating that you are not as educated as other people on the issues.
    I basically go on secondary and tertiary sources for the information.

    "The nice part about the conservative talk shows (which I don't listen to) is they present the opposing views that are presented by the main stream media. Talk shows tend to present facts to the public, so I suspect those who listen to the talk shows are better educated about the issues then those who don't."

    And as I read that passage, I have no idea what I said. I just don't find talk shows of any kind, liberal or conservative very useful. On the few occasions I have listened, I find the conservative shows giving the rest of the story or setting the record straight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    He won. An incoming President always gets a honeymoon period from the media.

    Even Bush got one. It just didn't last very long.
    Bush did not get a break from the media. If you recall, all of the major networks morning shows news anchors wore black arm bands to protest the win. Those bleeding heart liberals never gave Bush a break on anything. They beat him up over his tax breaks, but Obama gets a free pass. Face it, these people are so star struck by this man he could start playing a flute and lead them all right off a peer. It's just like the fairy tale The Emperor has no clothes.

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