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    Default Peer Review DJs

    When might AFG start releasing the DJs? Or has anybody received one yet?

    Thanks Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casco18 View Post
    When might AFG start releasing the DJs? Or has anybody received one yet?

    Thanks Paul
    To date no PDJ's have been sent out. Last year the first round came out just before round 17 with 2680 awards made to that point. To date 1272 awards have been made. If the AFG maintains a high number of awards could be as early as round 14, but my guess between rounds 18-20.

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    Onebugle,

    Thank you. Your statistical knowledge on the AFG program is vast.

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    Have any of the Dear Johns gone out yet?

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    I believe the computer round of dear john's has gone out as we recieved one for our vehicle application. We got that back on Sept. 5. I know of another station that received one for there operations grant same time. By reading all the other threads I don't think any of the peer review dj's have come out yet.

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    No Peer Review denials out yet; supposed to be any day now for the first round of those.

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    lets hope they take thier time, atleast I still have hope

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    Thumbs down Dear John SAFER

    Everyone: Just got a PR Dear John for SAFER. I don't know if this means the flood gates are opening!

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    Sorry to hear that Mark. The rest of you start checking.
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    Checked at 3 for any 1199A's did not see any emails posted for AFG applications. I guess I'll have to check again.

    Found nothing in the grant email box for DJ's, unless they just have not been posted there yet.
    Last edited by onebugle; 12-18-2008 at 04:19 PM. Reason: Rechecked applications

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    Just checked again to have a look after 1700 Eastern, nothing on my end yet, which I find somewhat surprising.

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    I would be willing to bet that the AFG peer review DJ's are not far behind this. I bet Xmas is going to be disappointing to some.
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    Thinking of DJ's and grants and such, what ever happened to FP&S?

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    Just got the DJ for SAFER.....We applied for 2 Firefighters in order to get to a 3-man shift everyday, I guess we just aren't needy enough...NOT....SAFER confuses the hell out of me, 3 years in a row....

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    steelman not sure where at in IL you are but you should try to get a hold of k3twpfire since he is the king of SAFER and is from here in IL as well.

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    in Quincy...my e-mail is dwsmith@co.adams.il.us SAFER boggles my mind, we are the poster child for SAFER and have failed 3 years in a row.....

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    Angry Peer Review DJ after 1199A opened?

    Kurt or Brian or anyone - Please advise - I just got a SAFER Peer Review Dear John for a FD that the Feds had already opened the 1199A link to the grant. Has anyone ever had this happen before? I know you always say don't pop the cork until the actual AWARD but I sure had the bottle ready.

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    Received an email this morning that several denials went out to 1199A holders and they were sent in error so no worries. You should receive an email correcting the denial.

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    Emails have gone out to the Profile's email address correcting the denials sent yesterday for those that have 1199As showing. Possibly a couple of others also, they haven't released all of the 1199As so hang tight.

    steel, not sure what's going on with your app but something does stick out just from what's here: 100% with 4 on the initial attack is the NFPA requirement and since DHS adopted that as law it must be met with your proposal. Along with the other 2 metrics governing 1710/20 on full alarm staffing that is, with most using callbacks or mutual aid to handle those arguments. If you don't hit each metric head on you're losing points big time compared to anyone that is meeting them, and with denials being relative it's not what your score is it's where you are in line. I have 6 that were turned down for hiring last year that are awarded/pending so it still can be one of those things that takes many cycles to pull you guys up to the top of the list by everyone else getting funded and out of the way. Also if the checkbook holders won't come out for another FF per shift to hit 4 and that's what is needed, gives the implication to reviewers that maybe the project doesn't have the local support needed even if it were recommended for award.

    Not saying any of that is in your case, since I don't have the whole picture. Just throwing ideas to get the discussion going for everyone's benefit.

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    BC...can I send you my narrative for you to review?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catch22 View Post
    Thinking of DJ's and grants and such, what ever happened to FP&S?
    I have been told to expect a January opening on FP&S.
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    Steelman (and anyone else reading), we can't do free review/writing since we have contracts from folks hiring us to work apps for them. We can do a lot for free but no one sponsoring SAFER apps. I'll go to the grave without my hair but integrity I'm not letting go of. I don't think it's right to have some paying for the same things I tell others for nothing. So if you want to inquire about that shoot me an email, it's not as much as most think for a lifetime warranty on applications like what we offer.

    But I can say that as they mention in the DJ narrative is only half the score. All SAFER apps make Peer Review but if the computer scoring is too low no narrative will rescue it. Would have to see everything in order to run a complete analysis.

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    Merry Christmas to me.....DJ today for a department wide SCBA update. Oh well, better luck in 2009.

    Happy Holidays to all of you and a healthy and safe 2009 (with lots and lots of federal funds).
    NCVFC17

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    I am surprised that not many more are posting. I wonder if it was just a partial rlease with more on the way tomorrow. I still can't believe I only found 1 DJ out of all these apps. i'm happy for them but, odds are weird here; should have been more.
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    Uncle sam says bah humbug!!! no new tanker under the tree for us. Received this afternoon by grant site e-mail.
    Good luck to all of those still in the running for 08.

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