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    ffmed, that is exactly what I did. I knocked it down from about 15 feet away with a 1" booster line and had it extinguished in about 3 minutes. Simple and nothing too it, but as someone previously stated, SOP's and SOG's run wild now-a-days and so I was curious as to other department's take on fires such as this.
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    We would have the pack on before even getting off the engine, so no I would not take it off to extinguish the fire but probably would mask up upon seeing what you described. The only story I have similar was a propane fueled forklift at walmart. Didnt mask up at that either (it was also out in the parking lot away from exposures). Knocked the fire down and got the propane cylinder off there ASAP but the rupture disc had already done its job.

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    Meant to say probably would NOT mask up in that previous post.

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    Also had a four wheeler in a big field that ended up being a small brush fire that we ended up using class a foam on after extinguishing what was left of the four wheeler.

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    Smile my input

    im not experienced but ive discussed this kinda stuff with very experienced firefighters enough to kno that whenever you are dispatched for any kind of fire you should atleast put the pack on just in case..... if you want to take chances go ahead but all kinda materials burning in vehicles , lawn mowers, tractors, atvs, etc. can and will produce some kind of harmful gas/smoke/vapor.


    using the reach of your hose to your advantage is smart..... knock it from a safe distance and once its knocked down pretty good...if not all the way...go in and finish up..

    also staying up wind is always good


    something tells me that someones going to put me and my thoughts down

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    Exclamation SCBA.... All the time, no questions asked!!!

    Anytime we have a structural, car, mower and smoke is present wear it!!! I still cant beleive that firefighters are taking chances with all this toxic smoke around.

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    I say why take the chance. I know if we were dispatched to a mower fire, I would go ahead and have the pack on my back. You should look at it from the aspect of you don't know what the 911 caller is thinking. To them, the "riding mower" they called in could be a fully involved large size tractor such as the type they use to mow roadsides or a bushhog/finish mower tractor, which I would think anyone would pack out for. I would say that any fire that is not natural materials i.e. woods fire, you should pack out. It doesn't hurt to be prepared. I would rather spend a few minutes on air dousing a small fire than sucking in any of the nasty crap that might be burning.

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    "SCBA.... All the time, no questions asked"!!!


    Quote Originally Posted by confire View Post
    SCBA? I doubt if I would. If I stepped off the truck with it in place maybe, but I still doubt it.
    30+ years in the fire service and I still get a kick out of the lack of common sense. Have we gotten to the point that we need a SOP/SOG for everything?

    Good Lord, keep your face out of the smoke, put some water on the fire, pick-up and go home.

    BTW What does “G” in SOG stand for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by confire View Post
    "SCBA.... All the time, no questions asked"!!!




    30+ years in the fire service and I still get a kick out of the lack of common sense. Have we gotten to the point that we need a SOP/SOG for everything?

    Good Lord, keep your face out of the smoke, put some water on the fire, pick-up and go home.

    BTW What does “G” in SOG stand for?

    Exactly, does anyone wear one while using your charcoal grill??? That can be considered Class B for a time if you use lighter fluid and it does produce CO??? The answer is no, you keep your face out of the smoke.

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    probably not. just depends on the circumstances. Just keep your distance. IMHO
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    Our policy says SCBA for all fires execpt grass fires. But in reality, SCBA would be on our back when we got off the engine but the fire would probably be out with a 1 3/4 before we went on air. Common sense is not that uncommon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cchiasson17 View Post
    Anytime we have a structural, car, mower and smoke is present wear it!!! I still cant beleive that firefighters are taking chances with all this toxic smoke around.
    This is the equivalent to the entire staff at a hospitals emergency room walking around in surgical scrubs and facemasks in the event a patient with a communicable disease walks in.

    If the situation warrants it, wear it. But an outside rubbish fire, a grill burning, a mover in the yard or a car on the street hardly warrants it.

    To each his own I guess.

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    i would probably wear it on woods fires too.......

    and i know that woods fires are a situation where u want the least weight possible...

    so maybe not SCBA but like a facemask or somethin light because even smoke from natural materials can be dangerous

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    Quote Originally Posted by confire View Post

    BTW What does “G” in SOG stand for?
    Guideline.

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    With the information given I would have the pack on the back but not on air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BQVFDjrFF210 View Post
    im not experienced but ive discussed this kinda stuff...
    .....something tells me that someones going to put me and my thoughts down
    Not going to kick you kid. You're first post wasn't a bad one. Glad you didn't come across like some know it all ******. Welcome to the club and make sure you get some tough skin if you plan to do some posting..

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    I always have it on, i may or may not put the mask on but I always have the SCBA on my back @ any type of vehicle fire, lawnmower or such, Fire alarms. what have you.
    Cuz I wanna know that if I need it its there for me.
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    Not sure if I would,but I do know I would have the pack on in case I decided I needed it, for instance I had responded to an open area fire in the middle of the night, pulled up and it was a small pile of sticks burning at the corner of an intersection. We pulled the water can out and stomped it down. Everything was going fine until we looked down and found a pile of used diapers sitting in a hole that was dug, burning under the sticks. You never know what or why people do what they do. The moral of this story is I never leave the rig without my SCBA. The way I look at it is, you get to whatever's on fire and by the time you've realized its time for some fresh air, it's prob. to late. Your lungs, but I believe better safe than sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefKN View Post
    I can't see wearing it. I'm all for safety, but this job will be out real quick.

    You don't have to get close or even get in the smoke to put it out. With a vehicle, you have to get right in there... it's different.

    The regs say that if you are entering an IDLH environment you are supposed to, but I think it's questionable that this is an IDLH environment.
    I like your point of why get near it, but disagree with not wearing in. It seems when we get into a habit in the fire service it is hard to get out of it. Practice like your going to play. If you get out and see that it is a mower and decide you do not need it, other guys will see this and you never know how it will be taken. What's to say the next car fire you get on some people will get out and say ahhh its only an interior seat fire, it will be out in a second and they don't mask up. The fact is you never know what will happen. Complacency kills

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    Why not where it? I guess I am confused, if in doubt wear it, it doesn't effect your performance if you are wearing it. I would rather wear it and not have health issues 10 years down the line.

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