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    Our policy says SCBA for all fires execpt grass fires. But in reality, SCBA would be on our back when we got off the engine but the fire would probably be out with a 1 3/4 before we went on air. Common sense is not that uncommon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cchiasson17 View Post
    Anytime we have a structural, car, mower and smoke is present wear it!!! I still cant beleive that firefighters are taking chances with all this toxic smoke around.
    This is the equivalent to the entire staff at a hospitals emergency room walking around in surgical scrubs and facemasks in the event a patient with a communicable disease walks in.

    If the situation warrants it, wear it. But an outside rubbish fire, a grill burning, a mover in the yard or a car on the street hardly warrants it.

    To each his own I guess.

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    i would probably wear it on woods fires too.......

    and i know that woods fires are a situation where u want the least weight possible...

    so maybe not SCBA but like a facemask or somethin light because even smoke from natural materials can be dangerous

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    With the information given I would have the pack on the back but not on air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BQVFDjrFF210 View Post
    im not experienced but ive discussed this kinda stuff...
    .....something tells me that someones going to put me and my thoughts down
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    I always have it on, i may or may not put the mask on but I always have the SCBA on my back @ any type of vehicle fire, lawnmower or such, Fire alarms. what have you.
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    Not sure if I would,but I do know I would have the pack on in case I decided I needed it, for instance I had responded to an open area fire in the middle of the night, pulled up and it was a small pile of sticks burning at the corner of an intersection. We pulled the water can out and stomped it down. Everything was going fine until we looked down and found a pile of used diapers sitting in a hole that was dug, burning under the sticks. You never know what or why people do what they do. The moral of this story is I never leave the rig without my SCBA. The way I look at it is, you get to whatever's on fire and by the time you've realized its time for some fresh air, it's prob. to late. Your lungs, but I believe better safe than sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefKN View Post
    I can't see wearing it. I'm all for safety, but this job will be out real quick.

    You don't have to get close or even get in the smoke to put it out. With a vehicle, you have to get right in there... it's different.

    The regs say that if you are entering an IDLH environment you are supposed to, but I think it's questionable that this is an IDLH environment.
    I like your point of why get near it, but disagree with not wearing in. It seems when we get into a habit in the fire service it is hard to get out of it. Practice like your going to play. If you get out and see that it is a mower and decide you do not need it, other guys will see this and you never know how it will be taken. What's to say the next car fire you get on some people will get out and say ahhh its only an interior seat fire, it will be out in a second and they don't mask up. The fact is you never know what will happen. Complacency kills

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    Why not where it? I guess I am confused, if in doubt wear it, it doesn't effect your performance if you are wearing it. I would rather wear it and not have health issues 10 years down the line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajpettis3 View Post
    I like your point of why get near it, but disagree with not wearing in. It seems when we get into a habit in the fire service it is hard to get out of it. Practice like your going to play. If you get out and see that it is a mower and decide you do not need it, other guys will see this and you never know how it will be taken. What's to say the next car fire you get on some people will get out and say ahhh its only an interior seat fire, it will be out in a second and they don't mask up. The fact is you never know what will happen. Complacency kills
    How far are you willing to take that?

    Should we be wearing air for brush fires?

    What about a campfire?

    At what point is it okay not to wear it if something is on fire?

    Just curious what you think.

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    I can't believe we're still debating this. Honestly speaking, if we get a run for a lawnmower in a yard on fire, I am probably not even putting on my turnouts, let alone packing up.

    Like I said, we don't pack up for car fires. I doubt a push mower, hell even a rider could be any worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MemphisE34a View Post
    I can't believe we're still debating this. Honestly speaking, if we get a run for a lawnmower in a yard on fire, I am probably not even putting on my turnouts, let alone packing up.

    Like I said, we don't pack up for car fires. I doubt a push mower, hell even a rider could be any worse.
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    Default I always packed up

    I always packed up, maybe for safety ... maybe to "look" the part. Anyways one time on a car fire by the time we packed up it was already put out ... doesnt encourage you to do it the right way the next time.

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    I would at least pack up for the call just because you never know what actually is going on. I got caught once on a car fire not packing up and pulling into the block not only having a car fire but a house fire as well. I guess dispatch didn't think the house being on fire was that big a deal. But pulling hose while putting a pack on at the same time will only be done once. I'd rather have it and not need then need it and not have it.

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    We are fortunate in our county to have multiple portable cascade systems as well as one of each stationary and mobile compressor.

    This being said I tell my guys air is free. USE IT!
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    Our dept's sog's state you always pack up on a fire call. God help you if you get caught not wearing one before IC gives all clear. I think its easier to take off then to have to double time back to the truck if you need it in a hurry. Furthermore I learned my lesson way back when. I was doing training with portable extingushers one day and we quickly had a wind shift and about 10 of us ate a good amount of smoke on a small pit fire. I coughed for a week after that.

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    I like the comment that air is free so why not use it ?

    With all the **** we breathe why not limit it where we can?

    Remember cancer is also free but few of us want to take advantage of that offer.

    Our unofficial rule is if we have to hump it to a distant brush fire we doff the packs, otherwise we're expected to wear them. We have alot of poison ivy in our area and try to be cautious even at brush fires.

    Now this is not to say we don't have members walking into CO and/or odor of gas alarms, overhaul and small fire conditions without the pack, we do, but... we're trying to change that thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bfd732 View Post
    I like the comment that air is free so why not use it ?

    With all the **** we breathe why not limit it where we can?

    Remember cancer is also free but few of us want to take advantage of that offer.

    Our unofficial rule is if we have to hump it to a distant brush fire we doff the packs, otherwise we're expected to wear them. We have alot of poison ivy in our area and try to be cautious even at brush fires.

    Now this is not to say we don't have members walking into CO and/or odor of gas alarms, overhaul and small fire conditions without the pack, we do, but... we're trying to change that thinking.
    I guess if you have to stand in the smoke to put out a lawn mower you should. I know I can avoid it.

    I wonder how many of you *honestly* wear your scba throughout overhaul?
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    I like that. Also do you want to be able to play with your grandkids without lugging around a O2 bottle????

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefKN View Post

    I wonder how many of you *honestly* wear your scba throughout overhaul?
    I do. As I said above, we have the equipment to fill the bottles on hand all over the place. It was expensive and looks pretty, so we are expected to bring it out and use it.
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    Lawn mower fire. Ya, I'd probably have a SCBA on my back, but not using air. Vehicle fire. Ya, I'd probably have a SCBA on my back, but not using air.

    Then again, we don't normally roll a truck/engine without at least 2 guys with SCBA on. Doesn't mean they will use them, but they are ready if needed. Once we get on scene, we will remove them when we don't see a need to use it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bones42 View Post
    Lawn mower fire. Ya, I'd probably have a SCBA on my back, but not using air. Vehicle fire. Ya, I'd probably have a SCBA on my back, but not using air.

    Then again, we don't normally roll a truck/engine without at least 2 guys with SCBA on. Doesn't mean they will use them, but they are ready if needed. Once we get on scene, we will remove them when we don't see a need to use it.
    Bones, is this personal preference on your part, or does the department SOP not give a guideline for wearing SCBA at vehicle fires?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dfd3dfd3 View Post
    I would at least pack up for the call just because you never know what actually is going on. I got caught once on a car fire not packing up and pulling into the block not only having a car fire but a house fire as well. I guess dispatch didn't think the house being on fire was that big a deal. But pulling hose while putting a pack on at the same time will only be done once. I'd rather have it and not need then need it and not have it.
    Are you putting on a NASA suit or an SCBA??

    How long does it take you to put on an SCBA that you need to pull a line WHILE putting the thing on????

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    Quote Originally Posted by jakesdad View Post
    Are you putting on a NASA suit or an SCBA??

    How long does it take you to put on an SCBA that you need to pull a line WHILE putting the thing on????
    The sheer mechanics of the task are baffling.
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