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    This was just posted on MSN. Illinois Governor was trying to make A LOT of personal money for him adn his wife off President-Elect Obama's Senate seat.

    Quite the interesting read here. The FBI has been on a political manhunt lately for politicians it seems. Just nabbed a State Senator and Boston city counselor here in Mass. since the election in November. What an (alleged) scumbag........

    Illinois governor arrested

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    Feds: Ill. gov tried to 'auction' Obama's seat
    Blagojevich is accused of 'corruption crime spree' over Senate appointment
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    updated 1:10 p.m. ET, Tues., Dec. 9, 2008
    CHICAGO - Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich embarked on "political corruption crime spree" and tried to benefit from his ability to appoint President-elect Barack Obama's replacement in the U.S. Senate, federal officials said Tuesday.

    At a news conference in Chicago on Tuesday, U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald called it a sad day for the citizens of Illinois and alleged that the governor tried to "auction off" the Senate seat "to the highest bidder".

    He said the alleged behavior "would make (Abe) Lincoln roll over in his grave".

    Blagojevich had been arrested hours earlier.

    A 76-page FBI affidavit said the 51-year-old Democrat was intercepted on court-authorized wiretaps over the last month conspiring to sell or trade the vacant Senate seat for personal benefits for himself and his wife, Patti.

    Fitzgerald said federal investigators bugged Blagojevich's campaign offices and placed a tap on his home phone.

    In Illinois, the governor selects a successor when there is a mid-term Senate vacancy. Obama resigned from the Senate soon after winning the Nov. 4 presidential election.

    'Truly a new low'
    Fitzgerald accused Blagojevich of "appalling conduct" and said the governor "has taken us to a truly new low". He alleged that the governor wanted "tangible and up front" cash in return for appointing Obama's successor.

    "He wasn't against a corrupt deal, he was against being stiffed in a corrupt deal," Fitzgerald added.


    Federal prosecutors have investigated Blagojevich's administration for at least three years. The governor has repeatedly denied any wrongdoing.

    Robert Grant, special agent-in-charge of the Chicago office of the FBI, said colleagues had been left "disgusted and revolted" by the case.

    Fitzgerald said federal officials were making "no allegations" that Obama was "aware of anything" in connection with the case.


    'Hard bargain'
    The affidavit contends Blagojevich discussed getting a substantial salary for himself at a non-profit foundation or an organization affiliated with labor unions. It also says Blagojevich talked about getting his wife placed on corporate boards where she might get $150,000 a year in director's fees.

    The affidavit also quotes Blagojevich as saying "I want to make money" in one conversation.

    Blagojevich and John Harris, the governor's chief of staff, were each charged with conspiracy to commit mail and wire fraud and solicitation of bribery.

    The FBI affidavit alleges that Blagojevich also sought promises of campaign cash, as well as a cabinet post or ambassadorship in exchange for his Senate choice.

    Blagojevich is accused of saying on November 3 that if he is not going to get anything of value for the open seat, then he would appoint himself to the post.

    "I'm going to keep this Senate option for me a real possibility, you know, and therefore I can drive a hard bargain," the affidavit quotes the governor as saying.

    Senate seat is a 'valuable thing'
    He noted becoming a U.S. senator might remake his image for a possible presidential run in 2016, according to the affidavit.

    The affidavit quotes Blagojevich telling an adviser later that day that a Senate seat "is a [expletive] valuable thing, you just don't give it away for nothing."

    In a conversation with Harris on November 4, the day of the election, Blagojevich is alleged to have compared his situation to that of a sports agent shopping a potential free agent to the highest bidder.

    On November 5, Blagojevich allegedly told an adviser, "I've got this thing and it's [expletive] golden, and, uh, uh, I'm just not giving it up for [expletive] nothing. I'm not gonna do it."


    On November 7, while talking on the phone about the Senate seat with Harris and an adviser, Blagojevich said he needed to consider his family and that he is "financially" hurting, the affidavit states.

    Harris allegedly said that they were considering what would help the "financial security" of the Blagojevich family.

    The complaint alleges that the governor stated, "I want to make money," adding later that he is interested in making $250,000 to $300,000 a year.

    The charges also state that in a conversation with Harris on November 11, Blagojevich said he knew that President-elect Obama wanted a specific candidate for the open Senate seat but added "they're not willing to give me anything except appreciation. [Expletive] them."

    Fitzgerald, the U.S. attorney, said the charges "allege that Blagojevich put a 'for sale' sign on the naming of a United States Senator."

    Among those being considered for the post include U.S. Reps. Danny Davis and Jesse Jackson Jr.


    Operation Board Games
    According to a federal criminal complaint, Blagojevich also was charged with illegally threatening to withhold state assistance to Tribune Co., the owner of the Chicago Tribune, in the sale of Wrigley Field. In return for state assistance, Blagojevich allegedly wanted members of the paper's editorial board who had been critical of him fired.

    Corruption in the Blagojevich administration has been the focus of a federal Operation Board Games involving an alleged $7 million scheme aimed at squeezing kickbacks out of companies seeking business from the state. Federal prosecutors have acknowledged they're also investigating "serious allegations of endemic hiring fraud" under Blagojevich.

    Political fundraiser Antoin "Tony" Rezko, who raised money for the campaigns of both Blagojevich and Obama, is awaiting sentencing after being convicted of fraud and other charges.

    Blagojevich's chief fundraiser, Christopher G. Kelly, is due to stand trial early next year on charges of obstructing the Internal Revenue Service.

    According to Tuesday's complaint, Blagojevich schemed with Rezko, millionaire-fundraiser turned federal witness Stuart Levine and others to get financial benefits for himself and his campaign committee.

    Federal prosecutors said Blagojevich and the chairman of his campaign committee have been speeding up corrupt fundraising activities in the last month to get as much money as possible before the end of the year when a new law would curtail his ability to raise contributions from companies with state contracts worth more than $50,000.

    According to the affidavit, agents learned Blagojevich was seeking $2.5 million in campaign contributions by the end of the year, with a large part allegedly to come from companies and individuals who have gotten state contracts or appointments.

    Blagojevich, in his second term, is the latest in a string of Illinois governors to run afoul of the law. His immediate predecessor, George Ryan, is in jail following a federal corruption conviction.

    Would-be reformer
    Blagojevich took the chief executive's office in 2003 as a reformer promising to clean up Ryan's mess.

    Ryan, a Republican, is serving a 6-year prison sentence after being convicted on racketeering and fraud charges. A decade-long investigation began with the sale of driver's licenses for bribes and led to the conviction of dozens of people who worked for Ryan when he was secretary of state and governor.

    FBI spokesman Frank Bochte said federal agents arrested the governor and Harris simultaneously at their homes at 6:15 a.m. and took them to the Chicago FBI headquarters.

    Bochte said he did not know if either man was handcuffed or if the governor's family was at their North Side home at the time of his arrest. He did say Blagojevich and Harris both were given time to get dressed before being taken to the headquarters.

    He also did not have any details about Blagojevich's arrest, only that he was cooperative with federal agents.

    "It was a very calm setting," he said.

    The governor was to appear later Tuesday before U.S. Magistrate Judge Nan Nolan to answer the charges.

    NBC News reported that Illinois statutes give only the governor the power to replace a resigning senator. There is no provision for the governor to pass on that power.

    However, if the governor resigns, he would be replaced by the state's lieutenant governor, who could then name a senate replacement.

    More on Rod Blagojevich

    This is a breaking news story. Please check back for updates.


    NBC News' Pete Williams, The Associated Press and Reuters contributed to this report.
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    Talking Wow...............

    Looks like Illinois is leading New Jersey by quite a few Points at this time...... But, stay tuned, NJ will retake the lead..........
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    Should have just put the Senate seat on ebay.
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    Would you expect anything different from the state that gave us Al Capone, Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama to name a few.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hwoods View Post
    Looks like Illinois is leading New Jersey by quite a few Points at this time...... But, stay tuned, NJ will retake the lead..........
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScareCrow57 View Post
    Would you expect anything different from the state that gave us Al Capone, Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama to name a few.

    Just when one thinks that you have posted something incredibly stupid, you somehow manage to outdo yourself.

    Every state has its share of scoundrels, including New York... it has you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainGonzo View Post
    Just when one thinks that you have posted something incredibly stupid, you somehow manage to outdo yourself.

    Every state has its share of scoundrels, including New York... it has you!
    Especially when one remembers tha tCapone made his bones growing up in Brooklyn.

    But then again Deputy, Illinois did give us our current Governor - Deval Patrick. Make of that what you will.

    I just can't belive that this Governor was (allegedly) that freaking stupid to go about this activity shiel he KNEW he was under a federal investigation. How incredibly stupid could he be?
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    At least this guy had set a price worthwhile. Our sheriff in OC is on trial for influence peddling for sums far less than the Gov.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScareCrow57 View Post
    Would you expect anything different from the state that gave us Al Capone, Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama to name a few.
    That's real good. Comparing Obama and Clinton to Capone. You truly are a moron.

    Blagojevich isn't the first and won't be the last.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    That's real good. Comparing Obama and Clinton to Capone. You truly are a moron.

    Blagojevich isn't the first and won't be the last.
    I didn't make a comparison at all. Was simply listing the most famous that Illinois had to offer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainGonzo View Post
    Just when one thinks that you have posted something incredibly stupid, you somehow manage to outdo yourself.

    Every state has its share of scoundrels, including New York... it has you!
    Unfortunately, I am way down the list. Currently on top is that Spitzer guy. And then there is Bruno. Wouldn't it be refreshing to find a public official who actually cared about the people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScareCrow57 View Post
    I didn't make a comparison at all. Was simply listing the most famous that Illinois had to offer.
    Actually you only reinforced your own stupidity. Every state has its share of infamous individuals.
    Politics is like driving. To go forward select "D", to go backward select "R."

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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    Every state has its share of infamous individuals.

    You are, of course, Correct. And I've noticed that some of them post on these threads..........
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    NJ is still tops. Our US Attorney, Chris Christie (likely next Governor) credits 130 convictions of politicians and public officials during his tenure. This does not include all of the state convictions. I think that is a record that has not been broken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    Actually you only reinforced your own stupidity. Every state has its share of infamous individuals.
    You are too funny. Of course every state has it's unscrupulous characters. But the timing of this one is just to good to be true. And we wonder why the country is going in the toilet with the current breed of politician. In the last 10 years there have been 1000's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScareCrow57 View Post
    You are too funny. Of course every state has it's unscrupulous characters. But the timing of this one is just to good to be true. And we wonder why the country is going in the toilet with the current breed of politician. In the last 10 years there have been 1000's.
    I'm not sure what the timing of this has to do with anything. I'm sure you will put forth yet another moronic idea.

    I'd be willing to bet the ten years before that was no different. If you want to live in this world of fantasy that politicians were less corrupt at some point in time that is your right. So is ignorance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
    NJ is still tops. Our US Attorney, Chris Christie (likely next Governor) credits 130 convictions of politicians and public officials during his tenure. This does not include all of the state convictions. I think that is a record that has not been broken.

    http://www.courierpostonline.com/art...WS01/811180359
    In Il they seldom even bother pretending that their Chicago pols should be honest. And they KNOW the machine dems are all crooks. I'd guess in NJ there is at least some pretense honesty from elected officals.

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    One of the wisest sayings that I've ever heard concerning politicians came from a work of fiction.
    In Stephen Coonts' "Flight of the Minotaur",his Jake Grafton character had to testify before Congress and decided to make a pit stop before going in.
    As he and another officer stood side by side "pumping the bilges",
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    And right on queue

    FIRST THOUGHTS: SO WHO'S CORRUPT NOW?
    It didn't tell us anything new about Blagojevich (he had been straddling the ethical line for some time), or Illinois politics (Blago could become the state's fourth governor in 40 years to go to prison), or even Obama (who is in no way implicated in the government's report). But it does begin to advance a GOP argument that the Democrats -- who campaigned against a Republican "culture of corruption" -- are no longer so innocent themselves. Are the ethical and legal issues that have recently dogged some Democrats (William Jefferson, Tim Mahoney, Charlie Rangel) beginning to approach what we saw in the last few years from Republicans (Larry Craig, Duke Cunningham, Mark Foley, Bob Ney, Don Sherwood, Ted Stevens, etc.)? And while the term “culture of corruption” gets thrown around a lot, the fact is that a state possibly having four governors go to prison in 40 years is most definitely a culture of corruption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
    NJ is still tops. Our US Attorney, Chris Christie (likely next Governor) credits 130 convictions of politicians and public officials during his tenure. This does not include all of the state convictions. I think that is a record that has not been broken.

    http://www.courierpostonline.com/art...WS01/811180359
    Sorry, NJ loses out to the usually forgotten state of North Dakota for having the title of most corrupt.

    Congratulations.
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    Just wait, Senator Jesse Jackson Jr. is on the hot seat now. Give them a couple of months and you'll see some more coming down the line.


    All I can say is thank god he'll be out of here soon.

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