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    I just landed a job as a paid call firefighter. I am 18 years old and really excited to start working. I have to attend a 3 month academy that I am looking forward to.

    If someone has been a paid call firefighter in the past it would be nice to hear what they went through and how they liked being a paid call firefighter. Pros cons, tips, stories. Anything will be really helpful.
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    All-call department or combo department?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaFireEducator View Post
    All-call department or combo department?
    You simply can't help yourself can you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GREGOR831 View Post
    I just landed a job as a paid call firefighter. I am 18 years old and really excited to start working. I have to attend a 3 month academy that I am looking forward to.

    If someone has been a paid call firefighter in the past it would be nice to hear what they went through and how they liked being a paid call firefighter. Pros cons, tips, stories. Anything will be really helpful.
    Listen more than you talk at first. Ask questions when you aren't sure. Be the first up and working and the last to sit down during trainings or work sessions. Go to every training that you can, absorb all the knowledge that is offered.

    It will get in your blood and you will love having a whole new family. The closeness and the trust with your fellow firefighters is like nothing you will ever experience elsewhere.

    Welcome to the fire service.

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    Stop the "paid call stuff"
    1. Join Military
    2. Get your Medic or Intermediate EMT
    3. Get on a full time Professional Dept. ANY one will do. Just make sure the pay is enough for your life style.
    In Ohio our pays can range from 48k min. to 65k max. without O.T.
    But if you want to do this for a LIVING than the paid call will help you not one bit.
    The Military is like a gatekeeper. It opens MANY MANY career doors.
    I hope it is NOT a combo dept. All they are is : Part Pro and part scab.

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    Default Ok, im done.

    I have been childish, stupid and foolish.
    I apologise to all.
    Sincerely.
    I will not be posting here any more.
    You are all better men than me.
    You are right and im wrong.
    I am ashamed and i hope my kids never see this side of me.
    Patty, I love you and hope you are doing well in life.
    Im am a sad and lonely person. I have no meaning anymore.
    Times can change fast, hold on.
    Sorry for everything.
    FTM-PTB
    The "webteam" should ban me Please ban me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alecshawn1 View Post
    I have been childish, stupid and foolish.
    I apologise to all.
    Sincerely.
    I will not be posting here any more.
    You are all better men than me.
    You are right and im wrong.
    I am ashamed and i hope my kids never see this side of me.
    Patty, I love you and hope you are doing well in life.
    Im am a sad and lonely person. I have no meaning anymore.
    Times can change fast, hold on.
    Sorry for everything.
    FTM-PTB
    The "webteam" should ban me Please ban me.
    It won't work any longer. You lied the first time you posted this and now you are simply not to be believed as anything other than a pot stirrer.

    alecshawn1:

    I have been childish, stupid and foolish.
    I apologise to all.
    Sincerely.
    I will not be posting here any more.
    You are all better men than me.
    You are right and im wrong.
    I am ashamed and i hope my kids never see this side of me.
    Patty, I love you and hope you are doing well in life.
    Im am a sad and lonely person. I have no meaning anymore.
    Times can change fast, hold on.
    Sorry for everything.
    FTM-PTB

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    [B]Originally Posted by LaFireEducator
    All-call department or combo department?

    You simply can't help yourself can you?[/B]

    A simple question.

    he asked for advice. Tough to give without knowing the specifics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaFireEducator View Post
    [B]Originally Posted by LaFireEducator
    All-call department or combo department?

    You simply can't help yourself can you?[/B]

    A simple question.

    he asked for advice. Tough to give without knowing the specifics.
    Totally irrelevant to his question and frankly you know it. My advice was generic enough for any new member to any fire department.

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    well so far it seems no one has helped you except for fyredup, I started with the dept. I am on now when we were all volly, then we moved to paid on call, I got lucky and got a chance to get on full time. and I love it! I joined because I was always interested in fire fighting but never had an oppurtunity where I lived before, I never dreamed I would have a chance at fulltime but it happened.

    there is nothing wrong with a combo dept the SMALLEST portion of fire fighters in the USA are paid full time.

    this can be a great stepping stone for you, If you desire to be a fulltimer the experience and training you gain NOW can get you there!

    the advice from fyredup is right on.......if you want to work hard you will reap the benefits

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    Quote Originally Posted by alecshawn1 View Post
    Stop the "paid call stuff"
    1. Join Military
    2. Get your Medic or Intermediate EMT
    3. Get on a full time Professional Dept. ANY one will do. Just make sure the pay is enough for your life style.
    In Ohio our pays can range from 48k min. to 65k max. without O.T.
    But if you want to do this for a LIVING than the paid call will help you not one bit.
    The Military is like a gatekeeper. It opens MANY MANY career doors.
    I hope it is NOT a combo dept. All they are is : Part Pro and part scab.

    Well, the department that I joined has about 45 full timers, and about 20 paid call. The cool thing with the department is that they only hire their full times from the paid call, so I do good and work hard and learn a lot, then in the future I will have a full time job.
    Gregor Cameron
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    Quote Originally Posted by FyredUp View Post
    Listen more than you talk at first. Ask questions when you aren't sure. Be the first up and working and the last to sit down during trainings or work sessions. Go to every training that you can, absorb all the knowledge that is offered.

    It will get in your blood and you will love having a whole new family. The closeness and the trust with your fellow firefighters is like nothing you will ever experience elsewhere.

    Welcome to the fire service.
    good advice, thanks
    Gregor Cameron
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    Central Fire Protection District
    Santa Cruz, CA

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    Quote Originally Posted by alecshawn1 View Post
    Stop the "paid call stuff"
    1. Join Military
    2. Get your Medic or Intermediate EMT
    3. Get on a full time Professional Dept. ANY one will do. Just make sure the pay is enough for your life style.
    In Ohio our pays can range from 48k min. to 65k max. without O.T.
    But if you want to do this for a LIVING than the paid call will help you not one bit.
    The Military is like a gatekeeper. It opens MANY MANY career doors.
    I hope it is NOT a combo dept. All they are is : Part Pro and part scab.
    Last time I checked being active in a Vollie or paid call fire department was worth more to a career department then simply being in the Military. Please explain how having experience fighting fires on a non career department is trumped by a guy in the Army that trained to shoot things? (I am not downplaying the military at all.)

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    Don't waste your time with AliceShawn. She posts to stir sh-t, then apologizes and runs away, only to return and start up again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfd1992 View Post
    Don't waste your time with AliceShawn. She posts to stir sh-t, then apologizes and runs away, only to return and start up again.
    Thanks..I've seen some of his other post now... WOW. Is there an ignore feature on this board I can utilize?

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    Quote Originally Posted by S8ER95Z View Post
    Last time I checked being active in a Vollie or paid call fire department was worth more to a career department then simply being in the Military. Please explain how having experience fighting fires on a non career department is trumped by a guy in the Army that trained to shoot things? (I am not downplaying the military at all.)
    Are you serious?
    1. Professional Depts could care less about prior volly. Care less.
    2. Military gives you "Military Credit points" Towards your overall test score.
    In many areas its an additional 20%.
    3. Being a Veteran is like gold in the interview.
    All in all, Come to Ohio/California or New York Professional Depts. and dont bother mentioning your prior "volly" experience. It wont matter
    It means nothing except one had a hobby.
    I like playing basketball but the Lakers wont be hiring me anytime soon.
    Get it?
    Volunteers are just amatuers. They may enjoy it and good for them but they are just enjoying a hobby.
    There is ZERO comparison between vollies and Pros.
    Not in any area including EXPERIENCE,Training and Knowledge.
    There is just NO comparison. I do my own taxes, (ours are easy) Im NOT an accountant though. Not even close. The Accountant is the Tax (Pro).
    Last edited by alecshawn1; 12-15-2008 at 04:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S8ER95Z View Post
    Last time I checked being active in a Vollie or paid call fire department was worth more to a career department then simply being in the Military. Please explain how having experience fighting fires on a non career department is trumped by a guy in the Army that trained to shoot things? (I am not downplaying the military at all.)
    The more i read this i realize this guy has NO clue how things work in Professional Fire settings.

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    I would just like to add that as a volunteer on a paid on call department you can gain all the experience and classes needed to continue to pursue your dream of a full time department, don't give up hope. The volunteer experience does help too. Don't let others say it doesn't I can speak from experience.

    Also to those that keep refering to career firefighters as the only professionals a word of advice from a career professional that was once a volunteer professional, we are all professionals in the fire service, we may do things different from department to department and state to state but the only difference between fire departments is volunteer, paid on call, career all of who are PROFESSIONALS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alecshawn1 View Post
    The more i read this i realize this guy has NO clue how things work in Professional Fire settings.
    Which part? Where you give handouts to military personal and blackball people with experience in the same profession as you? I'm very familiar with professional fire settings..ironically some of the professional departments here NEED to call on us for Mutual Aid and I assure you we don't see any of the attitude you display on this forum while on the fireground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alecshawn1 View Post
    Are you serious?
    1. Professional Depts could care less about prior volly. Care less.
    2. Military gives you "Military Credit points" Towards your overall test score.
    In many areas its an additional 20%.
    3. Being a Veteran is like gold in the interview.
    All in all, Come to Ohio/California or New York Professional Depts. and dont bother mentioning your prior "volly" experience. It wont matter
    It means nothing except one had a hobby.
    I like playing basketball but the Lakers wont be hiring me anytime soon.
    Get it?
    Volunteers are just amatuers. They may enjoy it and good for them but they are just enjoying a hobby.
    There is ZERO comparison between vollies and Pros.
    Not in any area including EXPERIENCE,Training and Knowledge.
    There is just NO comparison. I do my own taxes, (ours are easy) Im NOT an accountant though. Not even close. The Accountant is the Tax (Pro).
    Do you work hard at being a dickhead, or does it just come naturally to you?
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