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    Default Scott Tough cylinder. any opinions?

    Was flipping through a thread regarding a scott air pack and the hi-jack that ensued...

    So I decided to hop on the Scott website because we're looking to update our packs. As far as the bottle goes, has anyone had any experiance with these "tough cylinders" that they offer? http://www.scotthealthsafety.com/Ame...hcylinder.aspx

    According to the website, this cylinder does the following:

    * Engineered For Added Safety And Convenience
    * Designed For Extreme Fireground Conditions
    * Maximize The Use And Longevity Of Cylinders
    * In Accordance With NFPA Standards
    * Improve On-Scene Efficiency


    How can putting basically truck bed liner (or any variation) on a cylinder improve on-scene efficiency?
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    Come on, the bottle is BLACK. It must be better.
    Just another one of the 99%ers looking up.

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    I asked my Scott dealer that exact question a few weeks back. The end caps protect the cylinder not only on the ends where most damage occurs, but because they are oversized, if the cylinder where to fall even on it's side, the wrap is protected and held away from contact with rough surfaces. The rest of the cylinder looks like any other composite cylinder. Maybe there is more to it, i have to go by my dealer anyhow, ill ask for more info and maybe they have one and i can actually SEE the differences.

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    Wow great idea, lets add more weight to our SCBAs, the 2002 crap wasn't enough. It is 2009 and we are making firefighting equipment HEAVIER??? Am I must be missing something?

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    I hear you, I would take my old 4.5 back in a heart beat.

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    considering we're currently using aluminum 2.2's on the wireframes more often then not (our new truck has the fiber 2.2 30 min bottles on the newer frame with the hud) they're a welcome change...

    Also, Wouldn't the new lip on the bottle from the coating be more prone to snagging on wires and such?

    perhaps if they tapered it down? (I haven't actually seen one close up to know if it is or isn't, but its something to think about)

    Would this coating effect decon for the bottles?

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    I have worn the scott scba with the new caps and did not notice any weight difference. With how small the lip is it would seem to me that there would not be much of an issue with snagging wires. They seem to work pretty well. I know that my department is trying these out on a few bottles at the training center. Not sure where they will go from there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanrkg3 View Post
    So I decided to hop on the Scott website because we're looking to update our packs.
    Are you in a hurry? It is still a couple of years away, but...

    The next generation of SCBA

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    I just heard the list of departments that are going to try the "test" version of the next generation bottles got bigger! I can't wait for them to actually become standard issue, except then everyone will have the same bottle and they all will fail about the same time....
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    Default Haven't seen this yet, but sounds interesting...

    The newer carbon fiber bottles Scott is using now are light weight and have a longer hydro test cycle, which may lead to a longer life cycle. But they are TERRIBLE at abrasion resistance. Do one RIT drill and drag a FF on his back across a concrete floor, and I can almost guarantee the bottle will be OOS.

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    Whats the cost difference.... That would decide it for me.

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    List price for the ST7 is $77 more than std 45min So street price +$45-50.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neiowa View Post
    List price for the ST7 is $77 more than std 45min So street price +$45-50.
    If you got the coin, i'd spring for it if you are a busy department. Our bottles last a long time.

    I am now a past chief and the views, opinions, and comments are mine and mine alone. I do not speak for any department or in any official capacity. Although, they would be smart to listen to me.

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