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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
    Is the same as us questioning and criticizing the President's stimulus plan?

    You're very ill.
    You are truly predictable. No doubt about that.

    As I pointed out on that thread, Kerry was critical of troops terrorizing Iraqis by breaking into their homes forcibly and ransacking them. Something that would terrorize you and your family. Something that should be offensive to all Americans. Including you.

    I'm not surprised of your attempts to deflect and rationalize your actions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    You are truly predictable. No doubt about that.

    As I pointed out on that thread, Kerry was critical of troops terrorizing Iraqis by breaking into their homes forcibly and ransacking them. Something that would terrorize you and your family. Something that should be offensive to all Americans. Including you.

    I'm not surprised of your attempts to deflect and rationalize your actions.
    It was also something that never happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
    It was also something that never happened.
    Then why were you in such a lather over Kerry's remarks if they weren't true?

    It still doesn't change the fact that conservatives such as yourself accused Bush critics of providing "aid and comfort" to the enemy. Something conservatives have started doing just one week into Obama's presidency. Right wing gas bag Rush Limbaugh is on record stating that he hopes Obama fails.

    What kind of message does that send to our troops fighting for our freedom? I guess troop morale isn't that important now that conservatives have been trounced with little hope of regaining that lost group anytime soon. Gallup will soon be releasing poll data that details just five states, collectively containing about 2 percent of the American population, have statistically significant pluralities of adults identifying themselves as Republicans. These are the "Mormon Belt" states of Utah, Idaho and Wyoming, plus Nebraska, plus Alaska. By contrast, 35 states are plurality Democratic, and 10 states are too close to call.


    Given how folks like Ken Melman and Grover Norquist were believing a permanent conservative majority was possible just four years ago, that is quite a change in the attitudes of the voting populace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    Rush Limbaugh is on record stating that he hopes Obama fails.
    What's wrong with that?

    I HOPE OBAMA's policies FAIL TOO.
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    Rush Limbaugh is on record stating that he hopes Obama fails.
    He did say that, But you, and every other liberal in the world, is taking it out of context. Here is an exact transcript of part of what he said:

    If I wanted Obama to succeed, I'd be happy the Republicans have laid down. And I would be encouraging Republicans to lay down and support him. Look, what he's talking about is the absorption of as much of the private sector by the US government as possible, from the banking business, to the mortgage industry, the automobile business, to health care. I do not want the government in charge of all of these things. I don't want this to work. So I'm thinking of replying to the guy, "Okay, I'll send you a response, but I don't need 400 words, I need four: I hope he fails." (interruption) What are you laughing at? See, here's the point. Everybody thinks it's outrageous to say. Look, even my staff, "Oh, you can't do that." Why not? Why is it any different, what's new, what is unfair about my saying I hope liberalism fails? Liberalism is our problem. Liberalism is what's gotten us dangerously close to the precipice here. Why do I want more of it? I don't care what the Drive-By story is. I would be honored if the Drive-By Media headlined me all day long: "Limbaugh: I Hope Obama Fails." Somebody's gotta say it.
    The entire transcript is here:

    http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/dai...113.guest.html

    I hope the US finally charts a clear course for the economy and that we start to prosper again. I hope we remain secure and free from terrorist attacks. I hope we win the war in Afghanistand and Iraq. I want my country to be succesful.

    It is clear that Ruch Limbaugh hopes the pending socialistic policies fail. And so so I.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    Then why were you in such a lather over Kerry's remarks if they weren't true?

    It still doesn't change the fact that conservatives such as yourself accused Bush critics of providing "aid and comfort" to the enemy. Something conservatives have started doing just one week into Obama's presidency. Right wing gas bag Rush Limbaugh is on record stating that he hopes Obama fails.

    What kind of message does that send to our troops fighting for our freedom? I guess troop morale isn't that important now that conservatives have been trounced with little hope of regaining that lost group anytime soon. Gallup will soon be releasing poll data that details just five states, collectively containing about 2 percent of the American population, have statistically significant pluralities of adults identifying themselves as Republicans. These are the "Mormon Belt" states of Utah, Idaho and Wyoming, plus Nebraska, plus Alaska. By contrast, 35 states are plurality Democratic, and 10 states are too close to call.


    Given how folks like Ken Melman and Grover Norquist were believing a permanent conservative majority was possible just four years ago, that is quite a change in the attitudes of the voting populace.
    First of all, a permanent conservative majority is absolutely possible. The problem is that most of the elected Republicans who formed the majority completely abandoned the conservative agenda and policies that got them elected. What happened? People voted them out. When you vote someone out, you only have one other choice. The Dems end up with a majority.

    Secondly, I am not going to continue this stupid debate about criticizing the Pres. There is a difference in claiming our troops are commiting war crimes and criticizing the fiscal policies being advanced by the administration. No conservative on here criticized the Bush administration more than I did. You admitted as much several months ago.

    Just another typical attempt by you to get off the subject you can't win.
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    An interesting thought from nearly a 150 years ago……….


    "Owners of capital will stimulate the working class to buy more and more expensive goods, houses and technology, pushing them to take more and more expensive credits, until their debt becomes unbearable. The unpaid debt will lead to bankruptcy of banks, which will have to be nationalized, and the State will have to take the road which will eventually lead to communism."

    Karl Marx, 1867

    Disclaimer - I did not research this to see if it is valid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
    First of all, a permanent conservative majority is absolutely possible. The problem is that most of the elected Republicans who formed the majority completely abandoned the conservative agenda and policies that got them elected. What happened? People voted them out. When you vote someone out, you only have one other choice. The Dems end up with a majority.
    The permanent majority may have been possible once, but not any more.

    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
    Secondly, I am not going to continue this stupid debate about criticizing the Pres. There is a difference in claiming our troops are commiting war crimes and criticizing the fiscal policies being advanced by the administration. No conservative on here criticized the Bush administration more than I did. You admitted as much several months ago.
    Face it. Your a traitor because folks like you now believe it's okay to show our enemies we're divided. Et tu George? You should be ashamed. Since you're not with the President, you must be supporting the terrorists.

    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
    Just another typical attempt by you to get off the subject you can't win.
    I do end zone dances around you all the time. You just don't realize it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScareCrow57 View Post
    An interesting thought from nearly a 150 years ago……….


    "Owners of capital will stimulate the working class to buy more and more expensive goods, houses and technology, pushing them to take more and more expensive credits, until their debt becomes unbearable. The unpaid debt will lead to bankruptcy of banks, which will have to be nationalized, and the State will have to take the road which will eventually lead to communism."

    Karl Marx, 1867

    Disclaimer - I did not research this to see if it is valid.
    So the business interests you defend are really commies. Got it.
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    I do end zone dances around you all the time. You just don't realize it.
    I'm sure, in that simple little brain, you do.

    Face it. Your a traitor
    Face it. You're a fool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
    I'm sure, in that simple little brain, you do.



    Face it. You're a fool.
    Every village needs an idiot. SC is at least predictible.

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    Rush Limbaugh can hold opinions differing from the President,no matter who is in office and do so without fear of reprisal.
    Did you ever listen to Air America with people like Randi Rhodes?She would actually say that she hoped someone got past the Secret Service and ended the Bush Presidency.All she ended up doing was cost a liberal network lots of airspace.
    Limbaugh doesn't like Obama's policies but he doesn't go as far as Rhodes did.That's why all Obama can do about it is whine to the press about how the Republicans are "getting their marching orders from Limbaugh...".
    He doesn't like his true intentions revealed so he's trying to shut down Free Speech.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doughesson View Post
    Rush Limbaugh can hold opinions differing from the President,no matter who is in office and do so without fear of reprisal.
    Did you ever listen to Air America with people like Randi Rhodes?She would actually say that she hoped someone got past the Secret Service and ended the Bush Presidency.All she ended up doing was cost a liberal network lots of airspace.
    Limbaugh doesn't like Obama's policies but he doesn't go as far as Rhodes did.That's why all Obama can do about it is whine to the press about how the Republicans are "getting their marching orders from Limbaugh...".
    He doesn't like his true intentions revealed so he's trying to shut down Free Speech.
    Rush Limbaugh could make a movie dramatizing the assassination of PRes. Obama and there is nothing that he could do. That precedent has already been established.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    I don't have any problems. I get a chuckle out of the numerous disproven urban legends about all libs and dems.

    There seems to be a new moonbat on here every day that is totally disconnected from reality. The rationale that federal funding being taken from the donor states could very well be causing the employment of those in the recipient states. It's funny how that distribution of wealth is accepted. Yet there is criticism for Obama's stimulus plan as being socialist. Conservatives crying socialism after their six year spending spree is also yet another hysterical moment in the long list of hysterical moments.

    More importantly. It wasn't that long ago that anyone critical of the President was accused of being traitorous since we have troops on the ground, our enemies were surely emboldened by seeing that Americans were divided. Yet all of a sudden in the last couple of weeks, being critical of the President is fashionable and commonplace.

    Gee, maybe you can tell me what's happened that would cause such a change in attitude.
    It certainly appears from your numerous posts that the last thing you are doing is chuckling. It appears that you are intolerant of any opinion that differs from yours. You must be living in a personal hell everyday knowing how "right" you are and how wrong everybody else is.

    Your posts are more about witty retorts than a discussion of the topic.
    You are what Dr Phil would call a "Right Fighter"

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    Right fighters only care about being right. Whatever the argument is, as long as they're right (or think they're right), they'll keep the argument going until the other person concedes they're right.

    At some point the topic of the argument is lost. All that matters is that their point of view is accepted as the right one. In the end, that's what they end up fighting for more than anything else.

    Difficulties Dealing with Right Fighters

    If you've ever been around a right fighter, it's very hard to win an argument with them. Not only do they have to be right, they almost always are. (In their eyes. They rarely admit to being wrong.)

    So no matter what you're fighting about, eventually the argument shifts away from the argument at hand and morphs into whether they can convince you their position is the right one.

    I am sure most people on these forums would agree with this assessment ( except you ) . Now can we please move on to more important issues like this http://www.wwd.com/lifestyle-news/mi...rdrobe-1725476

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    Quote Originally Posted by slipperypete View Post
    It certainly appears from your numerous posts that the last thing you are doing is chuckling. It appears that you are intolerant of any opinion that differs from yours. You must be living in a personal hell everyday knowing how "right" you are and how wrong everybody else is.

    Your posts are more about witty retorts than a discussion of the topic.
    You are what Dr Phil would call a "Right Fighter"

    What a Right Fighter Is
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    Right fighters only care about being right. Whatever the argument is, as long as they're right (or think they're right), they'll keep the argument going until the other person concedes they're right.

    At some point the topic of the argument is lost. All that matters is that their point of view is accepted as the right one. In the end, that's what they end up fighting for more than anything else.

    Difficulties Dealing with Right Fighters

    If you've ever been around a right fighter, it's very hard to win an argument with them. Not only do they have to be right, they almost always are. (In their eyes. They rarely admit to being wrong.)

    So no matter what you're fighting about, eventually the argument shifts away from the argument at hand and morphs into whether they can convince you their position is the right one.

    I am sure most people on these forums would agree with this assessment ( except you ) . Now can we please move on to more important issues like this http://www.wwd.com/lifestyle-news/mi...rdrobe-1725476

    Oh. Is that all?

    OK. sc...you're right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
    He did say that, But you, and every other liberal in the world, is taking it out of context. Here is an exact transcript of part of what he said:



    The entire transcript is here:

    http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/dai...113.guest.html

    I hope the US finally charts a clear course for the economy and that we start to prosper again. I hope we remain secure and free from terrorist attacks. I hope we win the war in Afghanistand and Iraq. I want my country to be succesful.

    It is clear that Ruch Limbaugh hopes the pending socialistic policies fail. And so so I.
    I think its important for everyone in here to understand that Rush Limbaugh is not a journalist, rather an entertainer/comedian and part of his job is to make people laugh and as such, with the exception of some of his listeners who call in to the show, not too many people take him seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
    I'm sure, in that simple little brain, you do.
    Not really. Conservatives had no problem with criticizing a President when there were troops on the ground back in the 90's. There was no concern over emboldening our enemies or the impact to troop morale. Yet conservatives were the first to claim critics of a GOP President was a borderline treasonous act that was providing "aid and comfort" to the enemy. My brain may be simple but it is far superior than yours in picking up the obvious double standard.

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    Face it. You're a fool.
    See above post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slipperypete View Post
    It certainly appears from your numerous posts that the last thing you are doing is chuckling. It appears that you are intolerant of any opinion that differs from yours. You must be living in a personal hell everyday knowing how "right" you are and how wrong everybody else is.
    Don't give up your day job. You'll starve if you attempt psychoanalysis for a living. I laugh my butt off profusely when I read the BS double standards that exist on these boards. I laugh even harder at the rationalizations put forth to justify the moonbat logic.

    Quote Originally Posted by slipperypete View Post
    Your posts are more about witty retorts than a discussion of the topic.
    You are what Dr Phil would call a "Right Fighter"
    Never watched Dr. Phil. Glad to know you do. Explains a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamewell45 View Post
    I think its important for everyone in here to understand that Rush Limbaugh is not a journalist, rather an entertainer/comedian and part of his job is to make people laugh and as such, with the exception of some of his listeners who call in to the show, not too many people take him seriously.
    So you're saying that when he talks about serious issues regarding political philosophy or fiscal policy I shouldn't take him serious since he doesn't know his subject.

    Good to know.

    It's says a lot about the GOP caucus when they made him an honorary member of Congress back in 1994. And it says a lot about what those GOP representatives think of Americans by bestowing that type of honor on someone like Limbaugh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neiowa View Post
    Every village needs an idiot. SC is at least predictible.
    Hey farmboy. Isn't there a goat in the herd needing your attention?
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    Quote Originally Posted by slipperypete View Post
    It certainly appears from your numerous posts that the last thing you are doing is chuckling. It appears that you are intolerant of any opinion that differs from yours. You must be living in a personal hell everyday knowing how "right" you are and how wrong everybody else is.

    Your posts are more about witty retorts than a discussion of the topic.
    You are what Dr Phil would call a "Right Fighter"

    What a Right Fighter Is
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    Right fighters only care about being right. Whatever the argument is, as long as they're right (or think they're right), they'll keep the argument going until the other person concedes they're right.

    At some point the topic of the argument is lost. All that matters is that their point of view is accepted as the right one. In the end, that's what they end up fighting for more than anything else.

    Difficulties Dealing with Right Fighters

    If you've ever been around a right fighter, it's very hard to win an argument with them. Not only do they have to be right, they almost always are. (In their eyes. They rarely admit to being wrong.)

    So no matter what you're fighting about, eventually the argument shifts away from the argument at hand and morphs into whether they can convince you their position is the right one.

    I am sure most people on these forums would agree with this assessment ( except you ) . Now can we please move on to more important issues like this http://www.wwd.com/lifestyle-news/mi...rdrobe-1725476
    Dam, you nailed that one. Sometimes people need to state the merely obvious. This explains how his positions change with the wind

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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    Hey farmboy. Isn't there a goat in the herd needing your attention?
    Your posts are more about witty retorts than a discussion of the topic.
    You are what Dr Phil would call a "Right Fighter"

    And there you have it folks.. The proof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    So you're saying that when he talks about serious issues regarding political philosophy or fiscal policy I shouldn't take him serious since he doesn't know his subject.

    Good to know.

    It's says a lot about the GOP caucus when they made him an honorary member of Congress back in 1994. And it says a lot about what those GOP representatives think of Americans by bestowing that type of honor on someone like Limbaugh.
    You are correct; its common knowledge in the Broadcast industry that Rush has made quite a name for himself by his comedian-type views and the methods in which he presents them to the public. The bottom line is that he is there because his show has ratings and ratings mean dollars. If the opposite was true, he wouldn't be on the air nationally, certainly not as a comedian/entertainer; rather he'd be back on the air in some medium market as a disc jockey of sorts which was where he got his start years ago. Although I don't know if he's ever made this claim before, he may be a comedian/entertainer/comentator, but he is definitely not a journalist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamewell45 View Post
    You are correct; its common knowledge in the Broadcast industry that Rush has made quite a name for himself by his comedian-type views and the methods in which he presents them to the public. The bottom line is that he is there because his show has ratings and ratings mean dollars. If the opposite was true, he wouldn't be on the air nationally, certainly not as a comedian/entertainer; rather he'd be back on the air in some medium market as a disc jockey of sorts which was where he got his start years ago. Although I don't know if he's ever made this claim before, he may be a comedian/entertainer/comentator, but he is definitely not a journalist.
    Can you point me to where Rush has described himself as a comedian and tells his audience not to take him seriously? In a recent interview with Sean Hannity on Fox News he sure doesn't seem like someone doing comic relief.



    That schtick might work with the rest of your hayseed buddies, but it isn't going to work here.

    Now if you want comic delivery with an edge, Stephen Colbert does an excellent job of challenging GOP principles on the Stimulus Package.

    Stephen Colbert of the Colbert Report had a great comment about the Republicans “no” vote on the stimulus.

    “Last night—last night’s party line vote was a great start for the 111th Congress. But these hard times demand an even larger meaningless gesture. That is why I am calling on every Republican who voted against this bill to put no money where your mouth is. Refuse to accept a single penny of the eight hundred billion dollars for your Congressional district.
    Think of it—think of it—think of it like a hunger strike. Then—then just sit back and watch in glee as the Democrats face the wrath of their constituents suffering as the eight hundred billion dollars tears through their districts like a force five cash-o-cane.

    It won’t be easy but you are fighting for a principle. If we can’t have a perfect bill to stimulate the economy you’d rather have no economy at all."
    What do you think of that idea? I think it will only further prove the hypocrisy of the GOP and continue to alienate more voters away from them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    Can you point me to where Rush has described himself as a comedian and tells his audience not to take him seriously? In a recent interview with Sean Hannity on Fox News he sure doesn't seem like someone doing comic relief.

    That schtick might work with the rest of your hayseed buddies, but it isn't going to work here.
    Most comedians/entertainers don't need to tell others that they are comedians nor tell the audience not to take them seriously. Most people are capable of divding between a comic act and a serious discussion. A good example would be Don Rickles, a well-known comedian. I've yet to hear him go on stage and tell people not to take him seriously nor tout the fact that he is a comedian. As for his appearance oh Sean Hannity; I did not see him on that show and as such can't really comment on it.

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