That was aimed more at slapinjoe. After i re-read that he said "as a department" that could very easily be possible, I was thinking at a Agency level.
I have had some very good freinds work with CAl-fire within the last 2 years.That was the reason for the question, I know first hand that it only takes one bad apple to run a basket. However The majority has had less than stellar reviews, about there over-head, all the way down to the pulaski motors.
I know that we are worlds apart and thats could very easily be the reason for the diffrences' in views but i have to ask why?
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02-13-2009, 06:09 PM #21Courage, Being Scared to Death and Saddling Up anyways.
02-13-2009, 06:21 PM #22
I can't speak so much to the overhead and equipment issues, but it wouldn't surprise me as California is always in some sort of financial crisis or another regardless of the rest of the country.
02-14-2009, 01:34 AM #23
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- Eau Claire Wi.
Just a comment.
Hence the reason I trying to get in with them! When you say non Fed wildland Cal-Fire is way at the top of the list.
02-18-2009, 03:07 AM #24
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02-18-2009, 08:42 PM #25
Gotta another Question Fortech. If I get on with the USFS here in ND, What is abilty to transfer to other areas like? Start from scratch like a new hire again? Or Do you get a lil better chance, because you have already been hired?
Is there any Full-Time DNRC Fire Boys/girls out there beside FMO, or Rural Fire Specialists? I thourth i have seen a ENGB floating around here.Courage, Being Scared to Death and Saddling Up anyways.
02-18-2009, 09:26 PM #26
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- Dec 2006
- June Lake, CA
The ability to transfer around with the USFS is pretty good.
02-18-2009, 11:52 PM #27
Is it just kinda like walking up and saying i wanna go work in Idaho for a type 2 Crew?Courage, Being Scared to Death and Saddling Up anyways.
02-19-2009, 02:17 AM #28
Sorta, you still need to apply and compete for the job desired. And you can compete for jobs in the BLM & NPS. Often there is a "Transfer of Station" whereby ionce you accept a new job, the govt will pay to move you. However this isn't always available, so you have to read the announcements carefully. Plus it wouldn't hurt to call and ask if TOS is an option if they don't outright state yea or nay.
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02-19-2009, 12:03 PM #29
Sometimes getting a promotion means moving...Pretty much nation wide mobility with a Fed career."The probability of someone watching you is proportional to the stupidity of your action."
02-19-2009, 07:55 PM #30
So where are the Hot spots for the Federal Firefighter? Better yet whats the pay grade like?Courage, Being Scared to Death and Saddling Up anyways.
02-20-2009, 03:47 AM #31
As for hotspots, it depends on your view... SoCal makes the news alot, and has some great fires, but it comes with a cost... it's hard to live in SoCal on what the feds pay. Northeastern CA has lots of timber and sagebrush rangelands, and not as much urban interface as SoCal (again, locality dependent), and may be less expensive.
Unfortunately, CA as a whole is expensive to live in compared to some other states. I'm in the middle of nowhere Oregon, and love it... I have timber fires and sagebrush fires, and the cost of living is not skyhigh. I would go back to parts of CA if I could afford it, but the cost of living and other personal preferences will probably keep me out.
I would say you need to decide what area would fit your lifestyle and concentrate your efforts on getting there.
Here ( http://www.opm.gov/flsa/oca/09tables/html/RUS_h.aspis ) the 2009 hourly wage for the continental US (exlcuding areas of higher pay to reflect higher cost of living) and the annual salary for the same area http://www.opm.gov/flsa/oca/09tables/html/RUS.asp
IMO the annual salary tables are just a loose guide as to what you will earn, since in the feds there are various pay differentials that increase your wage, that the salary table can't capture. Not to mention that the salary table makes the assumption that you will work year round... when in reality you only work for 6 months, but still earn as much or more of the yearly salary in just 6 months.
Nice thing about the feds is there is more travel opportunity with details and fire assignments.
02-23-2009, 01:59 PM #32
See the message above! Some other areas that might be enjoyable...Eastern Washington and Western Montana. Cali seems to be where the jobs and money is at.
With the housing collapse you can buy a nice 3 bedroom home for 150K. Two three bedroom homes on my street just sold for a 100 and 125 K. two - three year old construction at most. Lol..Hilarous except I am buried in my little 1 bd loft home."The probability of someone watching you is proportional to the stupidity of your action."
02-25-2009, 01:27 AM #33
As far as previous traings and Certs. What makes some one a lil more Desirable? Is there any specific Certs that will bump you ahead of the game? And as far as PTBís go what type of requirements are on them? I have quite a few of mine signed off from State, and local Fire Guruís, (all of which are Qualified to sign)Will they still recognize them or will I have to start over, and go with all Federal Signatures?Courage, Being Scared to Death and Saddling Up anyways.
02-25-2009, 04:35 AM #34
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- Jul 2007
I worked on a Hotshot Crew from 2000 - 2007, 4 years full time. Documentation is key when going to a municipality, so keep good records of classes, certs and fire exp. If the dept you are interested in is involved in wildland fires then ENGB is the way to go. If not, focus more on how to use the fed experience for the interview process.
02-25-2009, 08:39 PM #35
Depends on who you transfer in with...Hotshot crews will most likely bump you back to the bottom of the food chain as PTB's go. It actually really depends on the forest you decide to go to as to if you will get reciprocy from a municipal agency. I'm actually currently dealing with this problem for one of my employees."The probability of someone watching you is proportional to the stupidity of your action."
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