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    Billion, million, whats the difference among friends. A fat finger mistake.

    Thats my understanding, it is going to be part of the AFG program.


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    What about the SAFER Waiver? Has anyone heard is that going to apply to only the awarded grants in 2009 and 2010 or to any awards currently in the process of reimbursment?

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    Not sure what this means, but I went to our state Governor's web site this a.m. and sure enough there is a section there for apply for projects under this bill.

    This web site also states that what they are actually doing is looking at what responses they get quickly and what different areas of funding are being requested.

    In any event they have an application process to go through and a small 1200 word description area for project.

    What does it hurt to go through the process? Any tool is better than none at all.

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    It can't hurt a thing!

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    I checked PA's site and no info. Is there any truth to this in the Bill that was passed today? Been out of touch. My FBI brother in law was in and all I heard was how the Democrats are ruining the world. He couldn't get back to Langley quick enough!

    We have a pole barn built in the 80's that was outdated when it was built. 4 single bays with 90 amp electric and bad HVAC, if you call it that. Looking to add on a bay with a meeting room and community room. We have our training and meetings in the engine bays. ANy ideas on what they are looking for? We have prints but not official ones. We could be ready to submit a request in 3 weeks and break ground withing 90 days. Any help from the gurus would be great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by montco65 View Post
    Looking to add on a bay with a meeting room and community room. ANy ideas on what they are looking for?
    No clue obviously until we see more info on the program, but I'd wager a sizable bet that whatever is funded will be strictly for fire operations. Community/meeting rooms would most likely have zero consideration. They've changed AFG for the same reasons.

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    I too am a little confused concerning the funding for AFG. During Michael Paddocks webcast last thursday his screen topics came up that the '09 year was being funded at 550 million dollars. I understood it had been cut to 300 million, down from 450 million originally. Then during the webcast it showed that the AFG program for '09 was now going to contain 550 million. It says directly in response to the stimulus. Is FEMA officially announcing the larger amount and going to stay with it no matter if the stimulas is signed into effect or not? Or are we going to get our hopes up and end anyway with the 300 million instead with a excuse attached? He also mentiioned a continuing of the AFG program beyond 2010.

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    I just got off the phone with US Senator Pat Robert's office and they advised the 200+ million is being handed down to the states to distribute. Also if any Kansas people are on here LT Gov Parkinson is on the committee to disperse the stimulus funds

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    After meeting with our regional FEMA rep last night, they said that the 210 million will be distributed as a competitive grant done just like the AFG program.

    I am not sure anyone knows right now. I really hope that it happens through FEMA, as I worry about the states funneling off money for administration etc on top of the administration fees FEMA can use.

    Of course, if you really want aggravation, look at some of these projects. 99K for doorbells?
    http://www.usmayors.org/mainstreetec...rticipants.asp

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    Which city had the $99,000 door bells? I got as far as Albequerque and ran out of gas!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LVFD301 View Post
    After meeting with our regional FEMA rep last night, they said that the 210 million will be distributed as a competitive grant done just like the AFG program.

    I am not sure anyone knows right now. I really hope that it happens through FEMA, as I worry about the states funneling off money for administration etc on top of the administration fees FEMA can use.

    Of course, if you really want aggravation, look at some of these projects. 99K for doorbells?
    http://www.usmayors.org/mainstreetec...rticipants.asp
    Make sure and keep us updated if you hear anymore on this deal. My mom works for a Chamber of Commerce and does a good job staying in the loop on grants, so I'll do the same if she gets any info before one of us does.

    How'd the meeting with FEMA go? I assume that was your kick-off meeting, or whatever they call it? Hopefully you'll get some good guys like we've got the last few times.

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    Does anybody have any real idea of how to apply for these monies for fire stations? I understood the AFG grant only allowed 100,000 for station items, so what grant are they talking about?

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    http://www.stimuluswatch.org/project/view/8982

    Doorbells. Laurel MS.

    Then there is the 1100 dollar closet doors.

    I don't believe I have ever seen so much pork in one place,
    even more than our local pig farm.

    a million in arizona to build a frisbee golf course?

    Catch - FEMA was the class on the grant program. I am going to
    talk to you later this week about the other. What a mess.

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    We currently doing an expansion, wonder if we can halt and apply for funding.

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    We've been searching for a funding source to replace our 50 year old steel building that barely holds up in the tropical storm winds, and is too small to house a normal sized pumper....
    Maybe this will be just the ticket... no breath holding however...
    Got a call into my Senator's office... no reply yet...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoserbt View Post
    We currently doing an expansion, wonder if we can halt and apply for funding.
    I'd be willing to bet that any project currently in progress isn't qualified for funding. I won't guarantee that, but typically it's not allowed in other grants, including AFG.

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    From what I have been told so far, the States will each receive a certain portion of Stimulus Billm, with that money having allocations for specific funding areas which include fire stations.

    In Ohio, go to the Governors web site and fill our the project summary, as I am told through this site and people connected to it, and other agencies within the State, they will have meetings scheduled to complete the request in full prior to awarding any grant request.

    Have been told also that these will be competitive, but with the Stimulus Initiative, they are looking at agencies that are ready to so what is under their request in a short period of time, hence the word Stimulus, (shot in the arm).

    I would however contact your local congressional people to inform them that you have applied for this and to seek their support in anyway possible.

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    AFG is still at $550mil, it was never in jeopardy since it's a separate package of dough.

    I see a lot of that station money going to state admin costs, happens with every other program. And if it's $210mil for 50 states, talking $4 mil per state. That's not going to handle a whole lot of building projects. Beats nothing but not quite what it's trumped up to be.

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    Okay everyone here is what I found. 210 million for fire stations construction and renovation. If you look at the actual text signed by the president the section is only one paragraph long. I called our congressional delegation and the two senators knew very little about it. According to Carol She-Porter's office the money will be distributed as a competitive grant through AFG. I then called our rep for AFG who confirmed that it was his understanding it would be under AFG but they had no idea how it would be coordinated at this point. Still way too early. Still many questions to be answered will there be a match? will programs already funded be eligible?

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    I see two possibilities:

    1) It's for structural only, nothing in the current AFG eligible (alarms, sprinklers, exhaust). So all things building such as roof, walls, HVAC, plumbing, wiring, etc, etc.

    2) All building related projects including the alarms, sprinklers, and exhaust.

    In Case #1 from a software nerd perspective, the easiest would be to add it as a project type to the existing AFG setup, so regional, Ops, Vehicle, building. Something like that could be done pretty easily from the app site perspective for the 2010 app period. Or done like SAFER and FP as an additional app period.

    Case #2 if it were a separate app period then they'd have to do some checking to make sure people didn't ask for the same thing from the regular AFG to have two apps in the mix. Easy enough to modify dropdown menus and other stuff like that to fit a new application type. Nice to see that's how they're thinking of doing it, that's the most cost-effective means possible versus giving the money to the states to reinvent the wheel.

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