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    Question Second cutters/spreaders

    Does it make sense to carry either a cutter or spreader on their trucks that they do not use for extrication?

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    It depends. If you have the tools and have the space, you can equip a backup truck for extrication even if its not its normal duties. We, vollie, carry extrication tools on two trucks even though one is not normally the 'rescue' truck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sq51kmg365 View Post
    Does it make sense to carry either a cutter or spreader on their trucks that they do not use for extrication?
    The tools can be used for more than just extrication of autos, but may be needed in a rescue or fireground situation. Also, one never knows if the primary rig with the tools is out, a second rig can still be utilized if there were an extrication emergency. If the dept can afford to have them, why not?
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    We carry a set of combination tools on the engine as well as the squad. Allows us to run it as backup if the squad in on another call. Also, since we didn't have water on the squad, we could take that engine to car fires and have them available if needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sq51kmg365 View Post
    Does it make sense to carry either a cutter or spreader on their trucks that they do not use for extrication?
    Only if they carry a power unit to run the tools.
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    My volunteer department recently bought a new set of Amkus tools for our new rescue. Our old tools (Phoenix tools) are being put on our primary engine as backup tools. The new Amkus tools are far superior to our old Phoenix tools. We are hoping having two sets of tools will keep us from waiting 15 minutes for mutual aid to arrive if our tools fail.

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    We've got 2 engines each with a set of tools. With two stations, both engines go on MVA's. In the purchase of our new Phoenix tools a couple of years ago, we were able to take our Hurst combo tool and our old electric power plant and put it on our tower as a "what if" type of scenario. If you've got the room and the extra tools, I don't see any reason not to.

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    We have three trucks equipped with hydraulic rescue tools.

    Our Rescue which has a full compliment of hydrualic tools all preconnected and ready to go as soon as you get on scene.

    Our first out engine also has a full compliment of hydraulic tools with a portable power unit.

    Our second due engine has a combination tool with power unit.
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    It is always good to have spares, in case:

    A) your first run piece goes out of service

    B) the tool itself takes a cr@p

    C) you are returning from another call and get hit out for an entrapment (hopefully you wouldn't run all the way back to the firehouse to get the "correct unit", especially if the incident is between you and the firehouse.)
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    I'm with bones on this, if you don't have a second hydraulic unit then they are just taking up space and causing clutter.

    We are in the process of getting a new set of Jaws. From the research and technical data it looks like the Res-Q-Tec tools are the best on the market. We are buying a small combi tool for most applications. We are also getting a high powered cutter and spreader for the heavy stuff. This in essence gives us our backups.

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    It is also nice to be able to pop a door overhualing a car fire.
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    Second all the comments and will add a scenario of my own: a second extrication, either at the same MVA scene (we ran one once where the cars were over 150 apart and both required extrication) or, worst case scenario, you drop a second MVA call.

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