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    We ar looking to apply for a station generator. Does anyone have a successful narrative?

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    Please e-mail me with your e-mail address and I will will forward you a successful generator grant. My e-mail is: bainterg@webstergroves.org

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    According to the 2009 workshop, generator projects this year will be lowest priority of station modification projects, below exhaust removal systems, sprinkler and alarm systems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcook18 View Post
    We ar looking to apply for a station generator. Does anyone have a successful narrative?
    Post your email here or in your profile and I'll send ours.

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    Why not get one thru the FEPP or D.O.D program ? We got a 30KW with only 40 hours with the paint still on the exhaust heck was even mounted on a trailer. Only cost we had was having it shipped from Texas to Iowa. Dime a dozen thru the programs mentioned.

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    Does anyone have a successful generator narrative? It takes 4 or 5 men to open the doors with out power. We need all the help we can get. Thank you.

    danwill@jamadots.com

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    You guys listening? Generator are low priority. Don't waste the time.

    You have a 100% chance of a generator thru DOD surplus. Contact your state forester. Many many diesels in 3kw, 15,30,60, 100 kw stationary or trailer mounted. Larger units all include 3ph.

    FG only has X $ don't waste the $ on generators. Use your valuable time on something your dept needs, that you have a shot at, and that you can't solve thru other means.

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    Been looking through DoD generators. Is it 1) possible to wire these units to be emergency backups and 2) financially feasible?

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    Thats what we had for several years, worked great. It probably cost less than $500 total for install. If you have a national guard armory near, they will have a power generation specialist in their toa that should be able to help you with all set up and maintenance. We talked with ours, and he came out helped us get it going right, and the electrician wired everthing while he was there. He charged us a steak dinner that we were fixing at the station. The only drawback that we had with the old gens was they were manual start. The new versions may be auto start. The change over switch was with them, so not expense there either.

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    You guys listening? Generator are low priority. Don't waste the time.
    Funny, our only successful grant was for a generator. Failed on SCBA, PPE, and other fire fighting equipment.
    "This thread is being closed as it is off-topic and not related to the fire industry." - Isn't that what the Off Duty forum was for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by neiowa View Post
    You guys listening? Generator are low priority. Don't waste the time.
    So what are you saying here?

    Are you saying that even with an occasional anomaly, we should still
    follow the basic rules of grants and apply for what the agency that is
    putting out the money says we should ask for?

    Sort of like asking for a fireboat?

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    I have successfully gotten a generator and exhaust system, PPE, SCBA, pagers, a TIC, and gas meters. Properly written and given the proper presentation you can whatever your needs are. Assuming the need is valid. If the generator is you biggest problem then by all means ask, the most they can say is no. And there isn't any reason you can't get a surplus generator. The problem is that by the time you get the funding the system you were looking at will be gone. But you also need to consider the switch, and installation. We bought a 60K generator with installation and the switch for around 27K.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drakescrossing View Post
    Been looking through DoD generators. Is it 1) possible to wire these units to be emergency backups and 2) financially feasible?

    1) Yes they call be wired to be a backup.If you want cheapest method then use a manual switch box or if you have a few extra pennies then get the automatic switch box. it takes us @ 2 minutes to go outside throw this switch and push the start button to be powered up.

    2) As for financially feasible yes it is when you get a gen set off the programs.
    If you know what your needs are ( size, KW's needed now and for future use,
    and fuel method gas,diesel, or natural gas then it is very feasible)

    3) We started out by figuring up what everything that ran on power in station was rated for and added 25% for future use.

    4) Then I spent most of the spring and summer watching for that gem in the sand to appear on the program and made to the call to request it.They do have commercial gen set on program so watch for them as servicing them will be cheaper in the long run since most are cummins- Caterpillar or john Deere engines.

    5) We spent just under 2k to have it shipped via trucking company from Texas to Iowa. Having it serviced and winterized for the colder climate - a concrete pad to bolt it down and having switched box installed and wired by an electrician.

    6) I would advice not to make it mobile unit (opens a can of worms) and include checking and running it at least once a month. Again we do this on our monthly shop night so we know it's being done.

    7) Another thing is thru the program you can get generators to run your water plant also if it doesn't have one already.Thing about that is on paper
    it's still your responsbility for the unit.



    All said and done this was one of the best projects we have done cost wise.
    when you figure the cost of a brand spanking new one and piece of mind. If anything every went wrong with it we can either repair it or turn it back in and found another one.

    Feel free to ask any questions.

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    I would recommend the automatic switch with the automatic start. Nothing like getting a call and the power is out. With the automatic switch you station is automatically up and running when you arrive at the station.

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    Default where do i look???

    where do I start looking for DOD generators????

    How often should I look for them to come available????

    Give me some good hints to get started...

    providencefiredepartment@yahoo.com

    thanks,

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    Default station geneerator

    i am also looking for generator from DOD. where do you go?
    fireman@csnowire.net let me know someone.

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    Foresters are the state contacts.

    http://www.fs.fed.us/fire/partners/f..._vfa_mgrs.html

    I used to have the link into the FEPP site to be able to search, probably 1 or 2 hard drive wipes ago since I can't find it. Will post if I can, there were a couple of sites that could be watched for stuff to be posted.

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    New listings of DOD property are posted every Tuesday.

    www.drms.dla.com

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    neiowa, it says that link isn't valid

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    try this for the FEPP program thru your state forestry
    http://gsaxcess.gov/
    then click in on right side
    acess code is 124403 and password is usda

    also there is a link to the DOD page in lower right corner of above mentioned page

    DoD is
    http://www.drms.dla.mil/asset/govealpa.html

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    What a rip. No fixed wing or rotary aircraft, no combat ships.

    I wouldn't have thought to have put snowmobile under tactical assault vehicle - tracked, but I guess they used them in a Bond movie like that...

    Still makes me wonder why we have space related components, rocketry systems, and whatnot listed. Do we have that many government agencies that deal with those things that they're swapping parts like 5th graders with lunches?

    10kW genset sitting in Monmouth NJ.

    Nice, code 8810 - Live Animals - raised for food, 8820 Live Animals not raised for food. Wonder why we're in debt...

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    Ya, there is interesting stuff on there. Found what might make a good pump for supplying a hydrant from a drafting pit. I clicked on shuttle, thinking it was the type like you take to the airport. Nope, the type you take leaving the airport

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