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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug7899 View Post
    Ok... here's a question for you.... How does one get IFSAC/PROBOARD Certs as a civilian... without being near a base to get your DoD ???
    Dude, no offense, but haven't you and I gone over this several times over the past year or two?
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    Yes we have FWDbuff....just seeing who else actually reads these posts... I am trying for larger city depts now... Fed stuffs going no where... cant get a sponser and cant afford to take off work to go get the certs i need... thanks for all the advice...i have taken it all to heart...

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    As a previous poster said, "if your applying for a GS-3 entry level postion, there are more 10 point vets out there than positions needed so as a 5 pointer, you don't stand much of a chance. The only requirement as a 3 is, well, that your breathing pretty much. Ft. Rucker has alot of positions per each announcement due to the Stagefield locations. Most posting are for only 1-4 positions.
    As someone else also said, get FF 1 and 2 and Hazmat Awareness as a minimum. That won't get you ahead of veterans for a GS-3 slot but it will for a GS-4 if they aren't certified.
    think about how many people across the U.S. are applying for a couple of slots. Something has to make you better than them.
    For Federal positions, you don't need DOD certs. Proboard/NPQRS will work just fine.Go to Proboard.com and you can see what states are ProBoard certified and which certs they accept. I have been a FF/Paramedic in Florida for 19 years. florida just went ProBoard in 2001 but only for limited cets. Mine (1990) didn't get ProBoard until 2009.
    The ARMY RESUMIX system is all about keywords so the more words you put down, the more likely you will get thru RESUMIX. Don't put a bunch of BS in there because it will be hand verified afterwards.
    My wife has applied for over 100 posting on RESUMIX for a GS-4 entry level office assistant position. She has NEVER had an interview even though she has previous experience as a Medical office assistant and Insurance billing.Why? According the the Head Nurse, the top 20 candidates were all either veterans or Military spouses preference. We even had a retired Lt. Colonel apply last time(WTF).
    As far as non federal departments, well that varys State to State. In Florida, you have to have FF1 and 2, and EMT or your not eligible. Other states will take you basically breathing and they send you to their Acadamy. I just put in for DFW. Even though I have 13 years as an ARFF FF/Paramedic at one of the largest airports in the U.S., if selected I would have to attend the TEXAS academy again.
    Good luck, Your gonna need it. It's different than when I applied but the word is out!!

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    FIREMAN53d THERE ARE IS NO SUCH THING AS DOD CERTS! THERE ARE IFSAC CERTS ISSUED BY THE DOD.

    I WOULD JUMP ON THAT NON-0081 SERIES PARAMEDIC JOB THAT YOU MENTIONED IN ANOTHER POST, CAUSE YOU ARE TOO OLD FOR A 0081 JOB

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    We are in the same process as you as far as working on getting into the DoD system. We just recently have started the applying process since my husband is still active duty. I wanted to comment though regarding Fort Rucker. We are stationed here and have been here for going on 4 years. The DoD began a rookie fire school here to hire within the city for DoD jobs. I dont know why this was done but they have had several classes go through already and they take their recruites from there. Apparently not many of them are making it through the school but this may be why hiring may not be so good out here right now.
    Thanks for the posts regarding filling out the apps. Its a confusing process and we already messed up one app by not doing it right so what you all said was helpful.

    Kristina

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    To all of my fellow Army Fire Dogs, don't give up trying to apply for these jobs. I hate talking to some of the civilian Firefighters on post, and finding out that they were in the Air Force. It ticks me off to no end seeing a Airman taking a job from a soldier on a Army installation.

    I, for one am a former Army Firefighter with 10 years experience and I to had a hard time applying for a firefighter position. I got my first break in 2008 (3 weeks before I left Iraq for good). I applied for anything and everything that I could in March of 08. I got a email saying that I had been "tenitively" selected for a security guard position as a GS-05 in Oregon. I accepted the job and the week that I was suppose to show up for work, I recieved a call from someone in personnel saying that they had a GS-06 position open in Utah. So I changed my mind and took it. While I spent my time there, I re-worked my resume 3 times. I then submitted it. I have since made the list for:

    Fort Rucker,AL GS-05 (Turned it down due to personnel not knowing my exact pay after already being a GS-06)

    Monterey, CA GS-07 (Bombed the interview- really nervous)

    Fort Carson, CO GS-05 (Still waiting for a call- I moved to Utah from there)

    Las Animas, CO GS-06 (Still waiting for a call)

    Fort Huachuca, AZ GS-06 ( I didn't see that they needed HazMat Tech, but still mad the list)

    Some other place in California ( I didn't see that they needed Wildland, still made the list)

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    Fort Bliss Texas GS-06 ( I accepted this one, and I'll be leaving Utah next month)


    So please don't give up. I started applying in 2000, and landed a federal position in 2008.

    No offense to any Air Force people, but d**n. Everytime I go onto the Air Force Civilian website and see a firefighter position at a base that I know (Air Force brat), the freak-n posting says " For Internal Air Force only" or something like that. And then when you go to CPOL and look for Firefighter positions, they hire a lot more Air Force people then Army.

    What is that about?

    Best of luck to everyone trying to get into a DOD position.

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    XFEDFF
    Thats really strange because when you go to DODffcert.com and lookup your certificates, it lists the certificate, the certificate number and lists the date that it was DOD CERTIFIED.

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    The Army uses Civilian Firefighters but the Air Force has enlisted and civilian Firefighters. The Air Force guy gets out of the service, has VA preference, is certified to DOD specs and experience. He looks good on paper and can applu for positions above entry level.

    The Army guy gets out of the Army with Vets pref. but nothing else so they can only apply for entry level positions.

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    The certificate # refers to the IFSAC Seal number. There are a number of agencies and states that have been approved by IFSAC to teach courses. Once the student passes you get that cert it might be a Firefighter II certification issued by the state of Idaho or a Firefighter II cert issued by the DOD it does not matter it is a IFSAC cert if it has the gold seal and issue #

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    We are saying the same thing but you just overanalized my term a bit.

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