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    What, if any participation requirements does your FD or Ambulance company have with regard to volunteers? Are they required to respond so many times per quarter/half/year? What about required attendance at meetings and drills?

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    My department requires you make 7 trainings a quater. we train every thursday and first and third sundays. if you cant make those for work or family issues we will get a group together and train so that you can make up the time you missed. its not a social club its a fire dept. on the business side if you miss three meetings in a row then you lose your voting rights till you make three meetings. we dont have anything about having to make calls. but with us having a the training requirements we have great turn outs for calls. anything else ya need to know ask away
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    We are supposed to get at least 50 points per year in order to maintain active status. You get points for fire calls, drills, details, training and other legally sanctioned events by the chief.

    If you don't get your points or take the required training, you lose certain privileges that an active member enjoys. If they don't see you at all for a year, then they ask for your resignation.
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    Does anyone have issues with these requirements when it is hard to find volunteers in the first place? We are looking at creating / enforcing training requirements. The general though is we would be better off with a few guys that are trained than a full roster that shows up and half haven't been to more than two trainings all year.

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    Fire Dept has a 50% attendance requirement, but no requirement for calls. If you donít make the requirement, you are assigned to a reserve role at calls. Continued and on going absences get you gear pulled from service.

    First Responders practise every two weeks, and you must attend one practise a month. Miss two practises in a row and you get a phone call from the training office.. Miss three in a row and your automatically suspended, respond while suspended you are terminated. Yes we have lost 2 members over this, but I would rather have qualified up-to-date members. Every member is given a copy of the SOGs when they join, so they know the requirements.
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    Our requirements are as follows:
    Calls 25% of total calls all year based on 24 hr responce or 50% of calls on a 12hr. responce.

    All madatory trainings and mandatory trainings for certain firefighters such as driver/operators must attend driving class and pumping class in order to stay an operator.

    25% of all other trainings.

    We have firefighters that well exceed this and others that don't make it even close.

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    Must maintain 20% attendance for calls each month.

    Must attend 4 drills per month.

    Extenuating circumstances such as full-time employment, majority of calls being during hours the member is working, etc. are taken into consideration, up to a point. If you're consistently below 20% for 2 or 3 months in a row, work days but never show up on middle of the night calls, etc. then you will get the opportunity to try to explain yourself to the chief officers behind closed doors.

    Discipline can include probation, suspension or termination. Most of the time, if attendance is consistently a problem, the member is on the way out anyways and is really just waiting for a final push in that direction.

    We need members sure, but we don't really need members who are far behind from missing training and experience.
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    Our policy is 25% of calls and 50% of drills, We review this on a yearly basis unless we have a member who is obviously not holding up thier obligation.
    As said before we will take into consideration any major things happening in that persons life, sometimes people are just going through a bad time.
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    50% of meetings/drills, pretty tough to require volunteers to make calls, but that is taken into consideration. We dont have a waiting list so right now its a loose policy.

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    I'm amazed at the departments that require a certain percentage of the calls to maintain membership. I'd never keep up that pace at our department.

    We require 60 points per year, and you must get point in at least 4 categories. Categories are calls, training, drills, meetings, collateral duty, and being an officer. There are maximum points you can get in each category. In addition, you cannot miss 3 monthly meetings in a row and must have at least 20 hours of fund raising. All of these are pretty easy requirements to make.

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    Members must attend at least 60% of training, and maintain 60% attendance overall.

    Mandatory training, such as medical certification/re-certification, etc. MUST be attended or alternate arrangements made in order to respond on the apparatus to those calls.

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    We require 50% attendance for training and business meetings. Ther is no minimum requirement for calls. The 50% mark is also required for the state retirement system. Our seasonal FF are required to only maintain their forestry credentials each year.

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    Some of you are mentioning requiring so many points per year in order to maintain active status. You get points for fire calls, drills, details, training and other legally sanctioned events by the chief. Could some of you give me some ideas as to how many points are given for each of the events and who keeps track of the points earned by each member?

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    Quote Originally Posted by loosegoose View Post
    Some of you are mentioning requiring so many points per year in order to maintain active status. You get points for fire calls, drills, details, training and other legally sanctioned events by the chief. Could some of you give me some ideas as to how many points are given for each of the events and who keeps track of the points earned by each member?
    We get 1 point per call, per meeting and per drill. We get 1 point per hour for collateral duty and fundraising. We also get 1 point per hour for the first few hours of training and then it goes down from there. We have forms to fill out for each activity in order to get credit and the secretary is in charge of tracking the points earned. They are also submitted to the county for out LOSAP credit.

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    60%/40%: 60% of training and forty percent of calls. The town has only just started clamping down on non attenders. A number of guys from my hall were called into HR for meetings and they have been placed on warning. The reality is though that unless you have a waiting list for a particular hall the town is not likely to "fire" a volunteer.

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    I see a few posts that say if you don't have a waiting list you are not going to fire someone or may be a little loose with the requirements. I guess my thought is you are better off having a roster that is not full than having it full of guys that don't show up for anything except that exciting call. They don't have the training and are more dangerous to you and themselves. I guess that is when you will start to need to rely on mutual aid. It is getting harder to find volunteers that have the time to commit to training, calls, and meetings, but those who do not show up, especially to training can do more harm than help unless you limit them to minimal tasks.

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    Default From our by-laws

    Section 2.
    Members will be required to accumulate points to maintain active membership status. Members will be required to accumulate a minimum of 450 points per quarter. Officers will be required to accumulate 600 points per quarter. Points above the minimum during one quarter will not carry forward.

    Section 3.
    Points will be awarded as follows: 25 points for every regularly scheduled meeting, training, or work detail and 25 points for every two hours spent at other official fire department functions, including fundraisers, training, or special assignments. Time spent on stand-by status at the fire station between 22:00 and 6:00 will be credited at 25 points for every eight hours. Members will also receive points for responding to calls. Members that respond to between 10 and 25% of calls during a quarter will receive 100 points, between 26 and 50% of calls will receive 200 points, between 51 and 75% of calls will receive 300 points, between 76 and 100% of calls will receive 400 points, and so on.
    Points will be divided into five categories as follows:
    Regularly Scheduled Meetings Includes all regularly scheduled Monday-night business meetings, trainings, and work details
    Training Includes any training sponsored or coordinated by TVFD, including rookie training. Also includes outside training sponsored by TEEX, SFFMA, NFA, TDHS, or TCFP if the training benefits TVFD and the member attends the training representing TVFD
    Calls Includes all points received by making Fire Department or First Responder calls
    Fundraisers Includes time spent preparing for and working at fundraisers.
    Other Includes work details, county meetings, or any other time spent to represent and/or benefit the fire department, including stand-by time at the station.
    Points from any single category cannot make up more than 50% of an officer or memberís point total. Points will not be credited if they are incurred as a condition of outside employment, if pay is received from an outside source for the hours served, or if it is by court order (i.e. community service) that the hours are served. To receive points for hours served, the member must be representing TVFD during said time.

    Section 4. Members eligible to respond to First Responder calls (i.e. those First Aid, CPR, and AED certified or above) or non-eligible members making First Responder calls with another member who is First Aid, CPR, and AED certified or above will have those calls included in their personal call tally without having First Responder calls included in the total number of calls for eligibility purposes.

    Section 5. Members may make up required hours by performing various department functions, such as cleaning the station or trucks. Such hours must be pre-approved by one of the officers appointed to keep track of eligibility hours. These hours will fall under the ďOtherĒ category.

    Section 6. Two officers will be appointed to keep track of all eligibility hours: one assistant chief and one captain. These officers will co-ordinate the certification of eligibility for members. Both officers must agree on the amount of points members will receive. Any disputes will be settled by a fire department vote.

    Section 7. Members who expect to be absent due to medical, family, education, or employment reasons may request in writing a leave of absence from the Department. Leave of absences will be categorized as short-term or long-term. A short-term leave of absence will be for less than thirty days with no less than thirty days of active duty status in between leaves. Members on a short-term leave of absence will have their points pro-rated to account for the time on leave and will not lose voting rights. A leave of absence of over thirty days will be classified as long-term. Members on a long-term leave of absence will not be required to fulfill the eligibility requirement and will not having voting rights. Members returning from a long-term leave of absence must serve one full quarter and meet the eligibility requirements before the return of voting rights. Members on a leave of absence of over 180 days will be dismissed from the Department.

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    50% of all training and 20% of all calls.

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    Ohio law requires 18 hours of annual training to remain certified as a firefighter. That's one requirement my department has. My department also has by-laws that permit the membership to terminate a membership if that member is not active. Active membership is loosely defined as attending as many runs and department activities as possible. This allows us to judge each member's contribution on a case by case basis, and a member who, for example, needs to spend months caring for a sick loved one does not lose their membership status (unless it jeopardizes the minimum training requirement). We're fortunate to only have one or two members who jeopardize their membership with inactivity, and even they participate at one level or another. We're also fortunate to have 28 out of 32 spots filled. I suppose if we started having serious recruiting issues we'd have to take another look at our participation requirements.

    One way we encourage participation is with a chart on the truck bay wall. Across the top of the chart is listed each run, meeting, and training, and down the left side of the chart is each member's name. Each member can put an "x" under each activity/run attended. It is there for all members to see who is participating and who is not. The chart is an excellent subliminal motivator.

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