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    While I wait for the responses to my RFPs for tanker bid prices (planning for 2009 application), I figured you might be able to help me (seeing as the 2009 guidance hasn't come out yet)
    I know this has been discussed in part previously, but my forum searches either yield too much or too little info.

    What have the typicall Tanker awards from the program been like?
    I know it depends on the spec, but I also know there are certain "magic numbers" that seem to be pretty common as well.
    We are looking at a basic, commercial cab, wet side, tandem axle, 3000gal tanker (or tender for you wildland guys) with at least a 500 gpm pump.

    Any thoughts/input/suggestions?


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    Just take in your cost/benefit in the overall picture. I have seen anything from 130K basic stripped down truck to 240K, pushing the pumper/tanker side. Should be plenty of help on here, there have been several grants given out in 2008/09 for them.

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    We received a Tanker in the in the 2007 AFG. Ours has a 2500 gal tank. If this is a Tanker/Tender - in our year the pump had to rated 750 or less. They indicated anything higher made it a tanker/pumper. We were also asked to lower our request to $250,000.00. Watch the NPFA requirements for the trucks and driver progams that are tied to it. I have heard from others that this was a sticky point with them and whether they (the departments) could meet all of the recommended parts of NFPA. Good Luck.

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    We got lucky last year on AFG and received a grant for a new Tanker. It will be delivered in mid July. It's a 3000gal Kenworth Tanker, 500gpm pump. We asked to replace our "home made" tanker. Send me an e-mail and I'll be glad to help ya..

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    If you are willing to share, btello@wi.rr.com Thanks for the help.

    Bryan

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    Bryan,

    I talked to the fire chief in Tenn. this morning and I found out his fleet is 20.5 years old. The tanker is 29 yoa. I think that is great news! I will send the narrative to ya end of the week or early next week one I can finalize.

    mark/morgancity

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    I'm trying to find where I read it.. but I thought if a tanker went above a 500gpm pump, it moved into the pumper/tanker category.

    While we'd love a bigger pump, we currently have a serviceable pumper, so I think that would hurt our score if our request slipped up into the pumper/tanker class.

    We really need a tanker... any thoughts?.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy2802 View Post
    I'm trying to find where I read it.. but I thought if a tanker went above a 500gpm pump, it moved into the pumper/tanker category.

    While we'd love a bigger pump, we currently have a serviceable pumper, so I think that would hurt our score if our request slipped up into the pumper/tanker class.

    We really need a tanker... any thoughts?.
    I think the break-over is 750 gpm. But, for all intensive purposes, fire pumps are rated in 250 gpm increments.

    From my understanding of the process, it's a mix of what the average fleet for a similar department is. If you have one pumper and three tankers, while the "norm" is 2 pumpers and two tankers, you're better off shooting for a pumper.

    When we got our pumper-tanker, we had no tankers and one pumper. I pushed in the narrative that we needed a tanker and a pumper, and the apparatus would be able to provide both services.

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    where so you find the information on simular department as far as fleet age and number of appartus ie pumpers and tankers

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    replace so with do, my wife the english major pointed out my mistake

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    Hoserbt,

    You lost me if you were writing to morgancity. give me a call on cell. you have it.

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    actually my question was to catch22

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    Andy2802,


    just sent you an email

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    Default tanker help

    Quote Originally Posted by PVFD100 View Post
    We got lucky last year on AFG and received a grant for a new Tanker. It will be delivered in mid July. It's a 3000gal Kenworth Tanker, 500gpm pump. We asked to replace our "home made" tanker. Send me an e-mail and I'll be glad to help ya..

    anyone willing to share winning narratives for tankers, have tried last 3 years with no sucess

    thanks Curt

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    Default would like to see successful tanker narrative.

    Would like to see a successful tanker narrative


    bshaw1202@embarqmail.com


    thanks,

    Brian

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