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    Biden spoke at the 21st annual CFSI dinner

    Vice President: 'You Can Count on Us'

    or, as interpreted, the most frightening words you can hear from someone standing at your door -

    "We're from the government, we're here to help you."

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    most of us on this forum are just that... from the gov't, here to help. now when a politician says that there is only one thing to do....


































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    Try OSHA, EPA, DOT or any other regulatory agency!

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    The most frightening words are...

    We hired some guy who calls himself LAFireEducator as our training and "pubed" officer!
    ‎"The education of a firefighter and the continued education of a firefighter is what makes "real" firefighters. Continuous skill development is the core of progressive firefighting. We learn by doing and doing it again and again, both on the training ground and the fireground."
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    Quote Originally Posted by chiefengineer11 View Post
    Try OSHA, EPA, DOT or any other regulatory agency!
    As a general rule, being a veteran and all, I tend to avoid agencies that use initials if at all possible.

    Be safe, R2

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    Vice President Biden spoke at the 21st annual CFSI dinner: 'You Can Count on Us'

    Today's Top Headlines Sat., May 9, 4:20 pm (ET)

    Obama Administration Would Cut PSOB Program
    Plan would cut almost half of benefits program

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    Quote Originally Posted by chiefengineer11 View Post
    Vice President Biden spoke at the 21st annual CFSI dinner: 'You Can Count on Us'

    Today's Top Headlines Sat., May 9, 4:20 pm (ET)

    Obama Administration Would Cut PSOB Program
    Plan would cut almost half of benefits program
    Wait, there's more:

    A May 7 FOX News report suggesting that that the Obama budget proposal for FY 2010 cuts spending on the Public Safety Officers Benefit Act (PSOB) from $110 million to $60 million is misguided and inaccurate.

    The PSOB (Hometown Heroes) program is an entitlement program, which means that 100 percent of benefits must be paid by law to every family that qualifies. The “cut” that FOX News is reporting is an estimate of what the program will pay out and is based on the predicted number of line-of-duty death claims.

    “There has been no cut to the PSOB program,” states IAFF General President Harold Schaitberger. “The families of fire fighters who die in the line of duty will receive the full benefit. Whether there are half as many deaths or three times as many deaths, all claims will be paid.”

    In 1976, following nearly eight years of lobbying, the IAFF succeeded in persuading President Gerald Ford to sign the original bill, which at that time provided a death benefit of $50,000. Since then, the IAFF has been the principal author of every amendment to the act affecting members’ coverage and benefit amounts.

    As a result of these efforts, benefit amounts doubled after September 11 and are now adjusted annually. In 2003, the IAFF succeeded in expanding coverage to include heart attacks and strokes. The benefit is now $315,746 as of October 1, 2008.

    “It has been a long and sometimes frustrating journey, with attempts to water down or shelf the legislation and to propose amendments that would have made it ineffective,” says Schaitberger. “We put these benefits in place so that if one of our members makes that ultimate sacrifice, the family doesn’t have to worry -- the benefit will be paid.”

    Have to read beyond the FOX NEWS HEADLINES

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    And we can see how that help has worked out .....

    Proposed to cut FireAct, which is great part is used by the volunteer service, and increasing funding to the SAFER program which hires folks and benefits the union.

    Guess the rural volunteers are getting the shaft again.

    Funding your local fire service should be a local issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaFireEducator View Post
    And we can see how that help has worked out .....

    Proposed to cut FireAct, which is great part is used by the volunteer service, and increasing funding to the SAFER program which hires folks and benefits the union.

    Guess the rural volunteers are getting the shaft again.

    Funding your local fire service should be a local issue.
    you're right, so FireAce should be cut. Or are paid departments the only ones that should be locally supported?

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    I would have no problem with both being eliminated.

    However, don't reduce FireAct, which is the primary grant program for volunteer department, and increase SAFER, which is the primary grant program for combo and career departments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainGonzo View Post
    The most frightening words are...

    We hired some guy who calls himself LAFireEducator as our training and "pubed" officer!
    Truer words were never spoken!
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