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    Quote Originally Posted by BryanLoader View Post
    Actually Scarecrow, President Eisenhower started Vietnam in 1956. I think the guy they are talking about is Mao Zhedong
    True, but is was Kennedy and Johnson who escalated it into a huge loss of American lives all for nothing.

    P.S. I believe it was 1959
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamewell35 View Post
    Crow, with all due respect, I think your completely confused.
    Not at all. Viet Nam was one of the countries biggest mistakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idiotboy
    Not at all. Viet Nam was one of the countries biggest mistakes.
    Hey idiotboy. This thread is about the interaction of American Presidents and less than wholesome world leaders.

    Obama's interaction with Chavez and others is nothing new in this nation's history.

    We can discuss the significance of the Vietnam war in that context. But I believe it is beyond your comprehension to understand.
    Politics is like driving. To go forward select "D", to go backward select "R."

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    "Oh, you thought I said we were going to discuss change? I meant we were going to discuss "change".

    Fidel Castro says Obama misinterpreted his brother's remarks
    The former Cuban president rejects suggestions that the island should free political prisoners or cut taxes on remittances from the U.S.
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    9:36 AM PDT, April 22, 2009

    HAVANA — Fidel Castro says President Barack Obama "misinterpreted" his brother Raul's remarks regarding the United States and bristled at the suggestion that Cuba should free political prisoners or cut taxes on dollars people send to the island.

    Raul Castro touched off a whirlwind of speculation last week that the U.S. and Cuba could be headed toward a thaw after nearly a half-century of chilly relations. The speculation began when the Cuban president said leaders would be willing to sit down with their U.S. counterparts and discuss "everything, everything, everything," including human rights, freedom of the press and expression, and political prisoners.

    Obama responded at the Summit of the Americas by saying Washington seeks a new beginning with Cuba. But as he prepared to leave the summit Sunday, Obama also called on Cuba to release political prisoners and reduce taxes on remittances from the U.S.

    That appeared to enrage Fidel Castro, 82, who wrote in an essay published today that Obama "without a doubt misinterpreted Raul's declarations."

    The former president appeared to be throwing a dose of cold water on growing expectations for improved bilateral relations -- suggesting Obama had no right to dare suggest that Cuba make even small concessions. He also seemed to suggest too much was being made of Raul's comments about discussing "everything" with U.S. authorities.

    U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton had a different perspective on Fidel Castro's essay while speaking about Cuba policy with the House Foreign Affairs Committee today. She said that while Fidel Castro had "contradicted" his brother's previous statements about Cuba's willingness to discuss a whole range of issues with the U.S., it shows "there is beginning to be a debate" inside Cuba about how to move forward with U.S. relations.

    Fidel Castro's remarks put into doubt the true meaning of his brother's statements and raised questions about Cuba's position on detente with the United States. Although he surrendered the presidency to Raul in February 2008, he retains enormous influence and remains head of Cuba's Communist Party.

    Raul Castro himself, meanwhile, has not jumped in to clarify the confusion and is not likely to, out of respect for his older brother.

    "When the President of Cuba said he was ready to discuss any topic with the U.S. President, he meant he was not afraid of addressing any issue," Fidel Castro wrote of his 77-year-old brother, who succeeded him as president 14 months ago.

    "That shows his courage and confidence in the principles of the Revolution," Fidel wrote.

    "No one should feel astonished that Raul spoke about pardoning those who were convicted on March, 2003, and about sending them all to the United States, should that country be willing to release the Five Cuban Anti-Terrorism Heroes," Castro wrote, referring to five Cubans serving espionage sentences in the U.S.

    Fidel also defended Cuba's right to levy a 10 percent fee on every U.S. dollar sent to relatives on the island by Cuban-Americans, saying if the money arriving from abroad "is in dollars, all the more reason we should do it because it is the currency of the country that blockades us."

    All top Cuban leaders routinely call the 47-year-old trade embargo against this country a blockade.

    "Not all Cubans have family members overseas that send remittances," Castro wrote, adding that Cuba uses the revenue from fees on exchanging dollars to provide free health care, education and subsidized food to all of its population.

    The ex-president has previously expressed admiration for Obama, but this time he blasted the new U.S. president for showing signs of "superficiality," and called on him to wait no longer before lifting the U.S. trade embargo against Cuba.

    "We are living in a new era. Changes are unavoidable. Leaders just pass through; peoples prevail," Castro wrote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
    "Oh, you thought I said we were going to discuss change? I meant we were going to discuss "change".
    No doubt the old man was keeping his fingers in the pie. I'm sure like all good commies, the right price hasn't been offered to Fidel to make him go away permanently.

    Pun intended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    Hey idiotboy. This thread is about the interaction of American Presidents and less than wholesome world leaders.

    Obama's interaction with Chavez and others is nothing new in this nation's history.

    We can discuss the significance of the Vietnam war in that context. But I believe it is beyond your comprehension to understand.
    I'm sorry, I thought you said something about killing millions.

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