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    Default What hose do you have on your apparatus?

    What hose do you have on your apparatus?

    -How many hose lines?
    -What size?
    -How long?
    -Location?(bumper, crosslay, hosebed, etc.)
    -What each line used for?(attack, backup, defensive, supply, etc.)
    -How is it loaded?
    If you have hose on apparatus other than the engine you can mention that too.


    Some of this may be a bit obvious but im still in my learning stage so go easy on me.

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    Volly FD:

    All hose lines are flat loaded.

    5 inch hose: Supply

    2 engines with 1050'
    1 engine with 1475'


    3 inch hose: Supply, feeding an FDC, master streams, extending a 2 inch line

    1 engine with 1000'
    1 engine with 450'
    1 engine with 600'


    2 inch hose: fire attack

    1 engine with:

    2-300' crosslays over the pump
    2-200' bumper crosslays on the front bumper
    1-100 foot length attached to a 3 inch deadlay bed
    1-100 length donut rolled and strapped in a compartment

    1 engine with:

    2-200 foot crosslays over the pump
    1-300 foot length in the rear hose bed preconnected
    1-100 foot length attached to a 3 inch deadlay bed
    1-100 foot length bundled and thrown on top of the hose bed

    1 engine with:

    2-200 foot crosslays behind the cab
    1-200 foot bumper preconnect
    2-100 foot rolls in a compartment

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    (2) 200' 1.75" Crosslays TripleLoad
    (1) 100' 1.75" Bumper line primarily for Vehicle Fires on custom cab engine only
    (1) 200 2.50" Rear Preconnect Flat lay
    (1) 200' Booster
    600' 3" Rear Bed (Attack, Master Stream Supply, Sprinkler Supply or Water Supply)
    800' 4" Rear Bed
    200'-300' 1" Forestry Line Rolled in Compartments

    Identical load for all 6 engines and 2 engine-tankers.

    Brush truck carries (1) 200' booster line and 3-4 100' 1" Forestry bundles.

    Tanker has (1) 200' booster reel and (2) 200' preconnects w/ 500' of 3" supply/attack line.

    Quick Attack has (2) 200' booster reels, (1) 200' 1.75" attack line and 3-4 100' bundles of forestry line.
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    We have:

    200' 1 3/4" trash line on front bumper: horse shoe load
    1 25' 6" front suction
    2 200' 1 3/4" cross lays attack: minuteman load
    300' 2" rear preconnect attack: flat load
    250' 2 1/2" rear preconnect attack: flat load
    2200' 3" supply line: flat load.
    100' 1 3/4" standpipe pack

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    Two Identical engines

    1 Bumperload dual donuts 100 1.5" fog (trashline)
    2 speedlays 300 ft. 1 3/4" with 15/16ths flatload with ears at 150' and 50'
    1 crosslay 300 2.5" with 1 1/4" flatload with ears at 150' and 50'
    Supply bed 1000 5" flatload
    Short Soft suctions 5" x2 30 foot on either side of pump panel
    Attack Bed 600' 2.5"/ 2x 100' 1.75 bundles w/ breakaparts and wyes/ 400' 3" to blitzfire

    2 Quints (used as truck companies)
    3 crosslays 200ft (1 - 2.5" and 2- 1.75") flatloads w/ sb
    Supply hosebed 500' 5" / 300' 3"
    Short suctions 5" 30 ft (one has it on the side and another has it on the front bumper/ donut rolled)
    1 truck has a bumper line of 1.5" 100' w/ fog
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    Twin engines: 1750 gpm, 1000 gal

    Hose Bed:
    1700' 5" in 2 beds capable of being dropped as single or double lay
    300' 3" w/ Blitzfire preconnected
    300' 3" w/ gated wye

    Speedlays
    4x 150" 1 3/4"
    Crosslays
    2 250' 3"

    Quint: 110' tower, 2000 gpm, 500 gal
    900' 5"
    250' 3" handline in hosebed
    4x 150' 1 3/4" crosslays
    100' 3" Blitzfire line in bumper
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    Two 1 3/4" Crosslayes, 200 FT, Triple Layer Loaded
    One 1 1/2" Bumper Line, 100 FT, Bumper Loaded
    One 1 3/4" High Rise Pack, 100 FT, Celeveland Load
    One 2 1/2" Pre-connect, 250 FT, Flat Loaded

    Split hose bed with 1700 FT of 3" supply line.

    200 FT of spare 3" Hose
    200 FT of spare 1 1 3/4" Hose
    Two 3" Squirrel Tails
    One 5" Soft Suction

    Crosslayes are attack and backup, bumper line is car fires. 2 1/2" preconnect is set up with a gated-y to extend smaller lines.
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    Thanks for the replies so far. I may be showing my ignorance but whats a speedlay? Is it like a crosslay or is different?


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    To me, speedlay and crosslay is the same thing. Any line that can be deployed in a hurry.

    I could be wrong though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTRider245 View Post
    To me, speedlay and crosslay is the same thing. Any line that can be deployed in a hurry.

    I could be wrong though.
    Technically a crosslay is a preconnected transverse hosebed over the pump. Although you will find crosslays on the front bumper on some rigs. My volly rig pictured on my avatar is an example of that.

    Speedlays are vertically stacked transvrese preconnects usually located at the front of a top mount pump panel. Although you will see them slid into the body on occasion where the hose is loaded in removable trays. The tray are removed for loading of hose and then slid back into the body.

    Hope this helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FyredUp
    Speedlays are vertically stacked transvrese preconnects usually located at the front of a top mount pump panel. Although you will see them slid into the body on occasion where the hose is loaded in removable trays. The tray are removed for loading of hose and then slid back into the body.
    Kinda like this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireBuffMI View Post
    Kinda like this?
    Exactly.

    Although that rig also has a crosslay bed. Most likely for 2 1/2 inch hose.

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    supply: 800' 5 inch
    600' 3 inch

    attack: 400' 3 inch
    2 each minuteman crosslays 150' 1.75inch
    1 front bumper 100' 1.75 inch
    2 each 100' 1.75 hi rise pack

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    Addison has 5 engines all the same:
    1 200' preconnected 1 3/4" with chief nozzle 175 @ 75 with 15/16 stub tip
    1 100' preconnected 1 3/4" trash line with 125 gpm combination nozzle
    Rear beds:
    2 800' beds of 3" one finished with a 2 1/2 skid 100' long with 250 gpm combination nozzle and the other bed finished with 1 3/4 150' long skid with chief nozzle
    We carry a spare 1.75 and 2.5 skid also.

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    Off the tail board: 1000' of 4"; 1 bed each of of 1 3/4" and 2 1/2", both contain 450'. And bundles of 1 3/4" and 2 1/2" for manifold and standpipe ops that can either be shoulder loaded or dropped in the street.

    Crosslays - 300' each of 2 1/2" and 1 3/4" dead lays.

    We typically pull past the fire and use the rear beds first. Crosslays are used for the second line off.

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    ENGINE 1&2: 1500'-5" supply; (2)400' of 1 3/4"crosslays(triple layed); (1)400 2 1/2"(flat layed); (1)100' bumper trash line

    ENGINE 3: same as above minus the bumper line

    RESCUE ENGINE: 1000'-5" supply; (2)400' of 1 3/4"crosslays; (2)400' flat lays out rear w/one set up with wye for piercing nozzle and propack; (1)2 1/2"(flat layed)

    BRUSH 1,2,&3: (1)100'reel of 1" redline, whip-lines in bed(yes, we ride); 4 sections of donuted 1 1/2"

    TANKER 1&2: (1)100'reel of 1" redline; mixed assortment of 1 1/2", 1 3/4", & 2 1/2" and fittings/adapters to go to just about anything
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    Thanks for all the replies. They were helpful.

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    2- 200' 1 3/4 preconnects
    1-150' 1 3/4 preconnect
    1-100' 1 3/4 preconnect bumper line

    1-200' 2 1/2 preconnect

    1-200' 3 inch leader line with water thief

    1800' of 3 inch supply line accordian laid / split bed

    1-100' hi rise pack

    1-200' hi rise pack

    Also a 200' 1 inch booster line
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    Default Hose info

    Engine:

    600' of 5 inch supply line in rear hose bed

    Four crosslays: 150' of 1 3/4, 200' of 1 3/4, 150' of 2 1/2 w/nozzle, 150' of 2 1/2 w/out nozzle

    Spare rolls of 1 3/4 and 2 1/2 in compartments

    Tanker:

    Four crosslays same as above plus spare rolls in compartment

    Grass/EMS truck:

    100' preconnect of 1 3/4

    50' 1" booster on electric reel

    1000' of 3" supply line to lay into engine

    spare rolls in cabinets

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    All 3 of our engines have (2) 1 3/4" 200' crosslays, 400' 2 1/2" on rear, 600' 3" on rear & 600' 5" supply off the rear. First out & Rescue-engine have 25' & 50' "cheater" sections of 5", third out has 50' cheater.

    First out engine has 200' 2 1/2" crosslay & 200' 1 3/4" front bumper line. Also has a 150' 1 3/4" bundle to be used to extend a crosslay or with a wye off 2 1/2" or 3" line for extended stretches.

    Rescue engine has 150' 1 3/4" front bumper line.

    Third out engine has a 200' 1" booster line in compartment above the back step.

    5" is our normal supply line but 3" is used for certain situations like on the interstate (through strategically placed holes in the noise barrier walls) or cross connecting to another engine.
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    On our seven engines this is what we carry.

    150' 1 3/4 front bumper (if truck has an bumper line)
    2 - 150' 1 3/4 crosslays/speedlays
    1 - 200' 1 3/4 crosslay/speedlay
    1- 200' 2 1/2 flat load pre-connect off rear
    1- 200' 2 1/2 dead lay off rear
    1200' 4" supply line
    25' soft suction
    50' soft suction (a few hydrants are a ways off the road)
    200' 1 3/4 rolled
    200' 2 1/2 rolled
    2 sections of 10' flex suction with one pre-connected to a low-pro strainer.

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    Default Hose Loads

    I am Truck Officer, so I will start with my apparatus.

    Front bumper:
    50 ft of 4 inch LDH double rolled for supply into the front intake

    Pump Panel Crosslays all preconnected and flat loaded:
    200 ft of 1 3/4 inch with a smoothbore nozzle for attack
    200 ft of 1 3/4 inch with a combo saberjet nozzle for attack
    200 ft of 2 1/2 inch with a smoothbore nozzle for commercial or large volume attack

    Inside Cab between rear jump seats:
    150 ft of 1 3/4 inch with a smooth bore nozzle accordian load high rise pack

    Driver's side rear flat loaded and not preconnected:
    1000 ft of 4 inch LDH flat loaded for supply into the rear intake or aerial intake

    Officer's side rear flat loaded and not preconnected:
    300 ft of 2 1/2 inch with a smoothbore nozzle for long stretches(deep seated commercial fires, long residential driveways, apartment complexes, etc...)

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    we carry on our engines the following:
    main suppression engine;
    1500 GPM /1000 water
    1600' 5" LDH
    2 - 1 3/4" x 200' speedlays
    1 - 1 1/2" x 150' front bumper line ("a" foam)
    1 - 1 3/4" x 250' crosslay
    1 - 2" x 300' crosslay
    1 - 2 1/2" x 400' hose bed pre-con
    3" x 750' hosebed dead lay

    our rescue/ engine carries;
    1500 GPM / 500 water
    1600' 5" LDH
    1 - 2" x 300' crosslay ( "a" foam )
    1 - 1 3/4" x 200' crosslay ( "a" foam )
    1 - 2 1/2" x 400' hosebed pre-con
    3" x 700' hosebed dead lay
    1 - 1 1/2" x 150' jumpline in running bd

    our tanker carries;
    500 GPM / 2000 water
    2 - 1 1/3" x 200' crosslays
    3" 1000' hosebed dead lay

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    1000' 5" and 1200' 3" in a split bed for either a single or dual forward lay.
    200' 1.75" crosslay with 125gpm nozzle (hose is triple fold)
    200' 2" crosslay with 200gpm nozzle (hose is triple fold)
    250' preconnect blitz line with 250gpm nozzle (triple fold)
    100' 1.75" with gaited wye highrise pack. (50' 3" can go too depending on circumstances)

    we have 2 engines set up identical except 1 has no 5" but has a 100' 1.75" bumper line.

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    2 crosslays 200' 1.75, bumperline 100' 1.75, sm30 on those. 1 200' 2.5 smoothbore 1.25 tip. 1300' 3" flatload. 200' 5"

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