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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    It took a while, but idiotboy finally dissolves into Godwin's Law.

    Sort of like the witch in the Wizard of Oz whose just had water thrown on her.
    I'd love to contiue this debate, but whenever beerboy joins in, I just lose any enthusiasm I had. Hope you understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
    I'd love to contiue this debate, but whenever beerboy joins in, I just lose any enthusiasm I had. Hope you understand.
    Perhaps you should debate him. He would welcome someone that is down to his intellectual and intelligence level. I can tell by his one line “idiotboy” responses that most of what I say goes right over his head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BryanLoader View Post
    Uh Scarecrow, Hitler and Mussolini were facists, virtually the 180 opposite of communism, never mind socialism. Basically Germany, Italy, and at 1 point Spain were absolute Fascist dictatorships. Soviet Union was an absolute dictatorship under Joe Stalin. There are quite a few pretty sucessful countries around the world that practice or accept differing degrees of socialism. I remain a very firm believer that the root of this entire problem is the unbridled consumerism that can betraced back to theearly 50's.
    Ahh once again you are right (concerning Hitler and Facism). That is what I get for just grasping at names in the heat of the moment. My BAD!!!!
    One thing I have learned through life experiences as well as my professional training is that you have to understand your audience and address them on terms they understand. Hence when dealing with SC and Nozzlebrain I often get a bit stupid. It’s difficult working down at that level. Typically when responding I will do some research to make sure I have the facts straight. However, when dealing with these two facts don’t matter and they often make stuff up anyway. So when dealing with them I act like in kind.
    As a side note. It is truly a pleasure to discuss issues with someone who is intelligent, respectful, and articulate thanks for being here and rising above the others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScareCrow57 View Post
    Perhaps you should debate him. He would welcome someone that is down to his intellectual and intelligence level. I can tell by his one line “idiotboy” responses that most of what I say goes right over his head.

    George... I think Strawbrains just threw a shot at you...

    I'm going to get myself a cold beer and a bowl of popcron... this is going to be good!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainGonzo View Post
    George... I think Strawbrains just threw a shot at you...

    I'm going to get myself a cold beer and a bowl of popcron... this is going to be good!
    Ya think???

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainGonzo View Post
    George... I think Strawbrains just threw a shot at you...

    I'm going to get myself a cold beer and a bowl of popcron... this is going to be good!
    Gonz, it ain't worth it. sc is alot of things, but he is informed, articulate and can back up his beliefs with research. I disagree with him vehemently on almost every subject. But beerboy is correct, we are at the same intellectual and intelligence level. That id far above whatever beerboy could hope to be.

    beerboy's comments are laughable. He is not even close in being able to debate intelligently with even the slightest informed liberal. He embarasses me,and all conservatives here, every time he posts as a conservative. It's astounding to me how uninformed he is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by idiotboy
    Hence when dealing with SC and Nozzlebrain I often get a bit stupid.
    What do you mean "often?"

    More like "always."

    And that doesn't change when dealing with anyone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
    Gonz, it ain't worth it. sc is alot of things, but he is informed, articulate and can back up his beliefs with research. I disagree with him vehemently on almost every subject. But beerboy is correct, we are at the same intellectual and intelligence level. That id far above whatever beerboy could hope to be.
    Thanks George. We also agree on two things. One is the 911 conspiracy folks are nutcases, and so far only you and I seem to know the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
    Gonz, it ain't worth it. sc is alot of things, but he is informed, articulate and can back up his beliefs with research. I disagree with him vehemently on almost every subject. But beerboy is correct, we are at the same intellectual and intelligence level. That id far above whatever beerboy could hope to be.

    beerboy's comments are laughable. He is not even close in being able to debate intelligently with even the slightest informed liberal. He embarasses me,and all conservatives here, every time he posts as a conservative. It's astounding to me how uninformed he is.
    That says it all. One’s writing and speaking skills are the insight into their intellect and intelligence. Further, I am not a conservative. Liberals and conservatives alike are running this country into the ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScareCrow57 View Post
    The Bible, The Qur’an, Book of Mormon, et al.

    That's not what I asked; where does it say there is a separation of church and state in the United States constitution?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasper45 View Post
    That's not what I asked; where does it say there is a separation of church and state in the United States constitution?
    The first amendment. That is why we don’t have Christmas trees in Government buildings anymore

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    Amendment I

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


    Where, again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasper45 View Post
    Where, again?
    OK!!! Now I get it. There is no separation of church and state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasper45 View Post
    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion...
    This is what most people are running with. I personally believe, along with many others, that by "keeping the Christmas tree out of buildings they are interfering with the 2nd half:

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    ...or prohibiting the free exercise thereof
    "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusKspn View Post
    This is what most people are running with. I personally believe, along with many others, that by "keeping the Christmas tree out of buildings they are interfering with the 2nd half:
    I couldn't agree more. For crying out loud, Christmas is the biggest holiday of the year in America. We get CHRISTMAS off. What is Christmas? The celebration of the birth of Christ.

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    Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI
    Gonz, it ain't worth it. sc is alot of things, but he is informed, articulate and can back up his beliefs with research. I disagree with him vehemently on almost every subject. But beerboy is correct, we are at the same intellectual and intelligence level. That id far above whatever beerboy could hope to be.

    beerboy's comments are laughable. He is not even close in being able to debate intelligently with even the slightest informed liberal. He embarasses me,and all conservatives here, every time he posts as a conservative. It's astounding to me how uninformed he is.
    George... being the true gentleman that you are, I know you will stand by your principals and not have a battle of intellect with a totally unarmed opponent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainGonzo View Post
    Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI


    George... being the true gentleman that you are, I know you will stand by your principals and not have a battle of intellect with a totally unarmed opponent.
    Well, it has been a while, but I could probably go back to the fourth grade and reeducate myself at that level, then I would be prepared to act his level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainGonzo View Post
    Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI


    George... being the true gentleman that you are, I know you will stand by your principals and not have a battle of intellect with a totally unarmed opponent.
    It would be too easy. Kind of like the way the Indians handled the Yankees yesterday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by idiotboy
    Well, it has been a while, but I could probably go back to the fourth grade and reeducate myself at that level, then I would be prepared to act his level.
    Idiotboy, your dreams will never hurt you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScareCrow57 View Post
    Well, it has been a while, but I could probably go back to the fourth grade and reeducate myself at that level, then I would be prepared to act his level.


    Scarecrow
    ... you are way out of your league. Its like a Little League team (you) playing a Major League team (George).
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    However, when dealing with these two facts don’t matter and they often make stuff up anyway. So when dealing with them I act like in kind.
    Do you throw **** and jack off when you visit the monkey cage at the zoo, too?
    Idiot.

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    Scarecrow... you are way out of your league.
    He's not even in the cheap seats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScareCrow57 View Post
    I couldn't agree more. For crying out loud, Christmas is the biggest holiday of the year in America. We get CHRISTMAS off. What is Christmas? The celebration of the birth of Christ.
    Must be lonely above the cheap seats....

    Every place around these parts of the woods, especially government employees, celebrate the "Winter Holidays". That is just generic enough to not offend those who celebrate Christmas, Hanukkah, Kwanzaa or Festivus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThNozzleman View Post
    Do you throw **** and jack off when you visit the monkey cage at the zoo, too?
    Idiot.
    Thanx for proving his point.
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    It is truly a pleasure to discuss issues with someone who is intelligent, respectful, and articulate thanks for being here and rising above the others.
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    Thanx for proving his point.
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