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    Quote Originally Posted by jccrabby3084 View Post
    Well Georgie, show me the clear cut definition of the terrorist and criminal and really what distinquishes them then.

    Baseball players still have the same rules, despite what level of play they are in. What is really seperating a criminal and terrorist then?
    How is it possible that EVERY post you post is more stupid and uninformed than the one before?

    Does Major League baseball have the 10 run rule? Can Major Leaguers steal more than one base at a time? Are they limited to 5 runs per inning? Do their pitchers get pulled after a certain number of pitches based on their age? Are they allowed to steal home? Do they play on a field with 60' bases? Is the pitchers' mound 46' from home plate? Shall I go on?

    Please stop embarrassing yourself. A four-year old can understand the difference between a criminal and a terrorist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
    How is it possible that EVERY post you post is more stupid and uninformed than the one before?

    Does Major League baseball have the 10 run rule? Can Major Leaguers steal more than one base at a time? Are they limited to 5 runs per inning? Do their pitchers get pulled after a certain number of pitches based on their age? Are they allowed to steal home? Do they play on a field with 60' bases? Is the pitchers' mound 46' from home plate? Shall I go on?

    Please stop embarrassing yourself. A four-year old can understand the difference between a criminal and a terrorist.
    Not yet, but the way the Yankees are going they will start imposing some of those rules. And you might be right about one thing, Your sons little league team is better than the Yankees.

    And not for nothing, terrorist are criminals.

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    And not for nothing, you are an idiot and a troll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
    How is it possible that EVERY post you post is more stupid and uninformed than the one before?

    Does Major League baseball have the 10 run rule? Can Major Leaguers steal more than one base at a time? Are they limited to 5 runs per inning? Do their pitchers get pulled after a certain number of pitches based on their age? Are they allowed to steal home? Do they play on a field with 60' bases? Is the pitchers' mound 46' from home plate? Shall I go on?

    Please stop embarrassing yourself. A four-year old can understand the difference between a criminal and a terrorist.
    Your the one that brought up comparison of little league to the majors. The leagues and divisions have differing rules due to the talent level of players. What is the difference of a big time and small time terrorist then? Show me the difference of a criminal and terrorist. Where is your clear cut definition of a criminal and terrorist, how a terrorist is the enemy and a pirate is just a criminal?

    What I find interesting is how you not once, but twice ignored the questions posed about the difference in terrorist and criminal, but instead decided to talk about baseball. Not to mention anything about Japan and Al Qaeda and the difference in the bombing.

    A four year old can understand the difference between the two, well golly gee, then there must be a clear cut definition of what a terrorist and a criminal is that you can find.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jccrabby3084 View Post
    What I find interesting is how you not once, but twice ignored the questions posed about the difference in terrorist and criminal
    My take, not that it really matters. Here is the FBI definition of terrorism :

    The unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a Government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.
    My understanding, and I am by no means an expert is that terrorism is an act of war, and that piracy is a crime. It's not that there is a black/white definition, but the Somali pirates are demanding money, taking hostages, etc... they really are not seeking to terrorize a nation, a people, or trying to influence a government. Simply, they are trying to take money for themselves. They hijack a ship, they demand a ransom from a private corporation, they receive the ransom, and they sometimes release the ship and hostages.

    Terrorists, and terror acts are used to make a political statement, topple a government, hold a population at bay, or aren't motivated by money, but rather "politically motivated objectives".


    I personally believe international terrorism needs to be a military matter, to be handled by the military. The reason being is, how do we pursue these animals, if our law enforcement has no jurisdiction where ever they choose to hide? Who has the better resources to locate, pursue and hunt down internationally, or world wide?

    Domestically, it can be an entirely different issue, because it is here, within our borders and the jurisdiction of the FBI. McVeigh is different from Al-Quada because he was "home-grown", and he was a US citizen.
    US citizens are different from non-US citizens, unless that US citizen takes up arms against the United States.

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    The leagues and divisions have differing rules due to the talent level of players.
    Baseball players still have the same rules, despite what level of play they are in.
    How are you possibly this dumb? Both of the above quotes are yours. You have no idea what you are even saying. Please stop embarrasing yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jasper45 View Post
    My take, not that it really matters. Here is the FBI definition of terrorism :



    My understanding, and I am by no means an expert is that terrorism is an act of war, and that piracy is a crime. It's not that there is a black/white definition, but the Somali pirates are demanding money, taking hostages, etc... they really are not seeking to terrorize a nation, a people, or trying to influence a government. Simply, they are trying to take money for themselves. They hijack a ship, they demand a ransom from a private corporation, they receive the ransom, and they sometimes release the ship and hostages.

    Terrorists, and terror acts are used to make a political statement, topple a government, hold a population at bay, or aren't motivated by money, but rather "politically motivated objectives".


    I personally believe international terrorism needs to be a military matter, to be handled by the military. The reason being is, how do we pursue these animals, if our law enforcement has no jurisdiction where ever they choose to hide? Who has the better resources to locate, pursue and hunt down internationally, or world wide?

    Domestically, it can be an entirely different issue, because it is here, within our borders and the jurisdiction of the FBI. McVeigh is different from Al-Quada because he was "home-grown", and he was a US citizen.
    US citizens are different from non-US citizens, unless that US citizen takes up arms against the United States.
    I couldn't possibly agree with you more. You could even break this dfown further by splitting the difference between domestic and international terrorism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jccrabby3084 View Post
    Your the one that brought up comparison of little league to the majors. The leagues and divisions have differing rules due to the talent level of players. What is the difference of a big time and small time terrorist then? Show me the difference of a criminal and terrorist. Where is your clear cut definition of a criminal and terrorist, how a terrorist is the enemy and a pirate is just a criminal?

    What I find interesting is how you not once, but twice ignored the questions posed about the difference in terrorist and criminal, but instead decided to talk about baseball. Not to mention anything about Japan and Al Qaeda and the difference in the bombing.

    A four year old can understand the difference between the two, well golly gee, then there must be a clear cut definition of what a terrorist and a criminal is that you can find.
    I see you have given up trying to use logic on a person who cannot comprehend logic. Good move. I tend to ignore the idiots as well. I read their posts and wonder how they have made it this far in life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScareCrow57 View Post
    I see you have given up trying to use logic on a person who cannot comprehend logic. Good move. I tend to ignore the idiots as well. I read their posts and wonder how they have made it this far in life.
    I bet none of the idiots you ignore never went BK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StupidClown View Post
    I bet none of the idiots you ignore never went BK.
    I see you are still on the meds, another meaningless and stupid statement. I didn't have any government bailouts available to help me. Heck even our useless welfare and food stamps wouldn't help. Out of a job, still got the same bills, but you own a home, too bad. You have unemployment insurance which is 25% of what you were making and we are going to tax that at 43% as well. And the Credit Card companies raise your rate for absolutely no reason. FYI, I did the more responsible chapter 13. Which means I paid off my car, I made my home payments. The only people who got screwed were the CC companies who got 10%. They got what they deserved.

    These are also the same rotten corporations that we just gave trillions of dollars too because they didn't know hot to run their businesses. With those kinds of decisions forcing people to file BK, it is no wonder they went under. Even the mortgage company was inflexible. The system works good for those in cushy government jobs where they never let anyone go. But these banks and the government need to realize that peoples situations can change. And they need to be able to adapt or risk loosing everything. I tried to work with them and they wouldn't budge. I offered a modification that would have allowed me to keep paying and they would have gotten all of their money. They would rather force you into a BK. So F&&& em all. Probably has something to do wit the bitter attitude I have about these scum sucking banks and our idiot leaders. They aren't looking out for the people.

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    They got what they deserved.
    So...

    You irresponsibly run up your credit cards, don't pay the bill, then when the credit card company operates according to the agreement you signed (all say they will raise the interest rate after a period of delinquency), you say that they are a "rotten corporation"? You don't fulfill your legal obligation but THEY don't know how to run a business?
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    Quote Originally Posted by idiotboy
    I see you are still on the meds, another meaningless and stupid statement. I didn't have any government bailouts available to help me. Heck even our useless welfare and food stamps wouldn't help. Out of a job, still got the same bills, but you own a home, too bad. You have unemployment insurance which is 25% of what you were making and we are going to tax that at 43% as well. And the Credit Card companies raise your rate for absolutely no reason. FYI, I did the more responsible chapter 13. Which means I paid off my car, I made my home payments. The only people who got screwed were the CC companies who got 10%. They got what they deserved.
    Yet you justified the bonuses being paid to bailed out banker because a contract is a contract and should be honored. I guess you don't believe that principle applied to you in paying the debts no one forced you to undertake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
    You could even break this dfown further by splitting the difference between domestic and international terrorism.

    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
    Pirates are criminals.

    Terrorists are our enemy. No different than the Japanese when they bombed Pearl Harbor..
    Once again Georgie you have ignored the question and wanted to talk baseball instead. You want to try and be so sly with the difference in major leagues and little league. Do you want to see the Yankees get a game handed to them by a little league team? Yet you stated before terrorists are the enemy, no different than Japan. No different, none, really? You wanted to point out all the differences in baseball...where are all the similarities with terrorists and Japan? C'mon Georgie, you are the self proclaimed smartest person on these forums, where are these similarities?

    So wait, Jasper has a good post, addresses the issue, but then again now you want to split terrorists into domestic and international. So what is going to define what constitutes a domestic and international terrorist? I brought up the comparison with Nichols and McVeigh, both of whom were charged as criminals. What about extremist groups within our own borders like the KKK or NeoNazis? Afterall they use terrorist type of activities and have a politically charged agenda, much like Al Qeada does, so why are we not going after these groups? Are they not terrorists? are they not the enemy? Just like Japan was after it bombed Pearl Harbor?

    Nevermind Georgie, I already have my answer from you, three times now, where all you want to talk about is baseball. You want to try and bust my chops for my comments...whoopity do, I work in a firehouse where chops are busted more times than what a butcher can do at a meat plant. Some stranger on the internet isn't going to affect me. I have thick skin and a sense of humor, which is why I find it comical you still have averted the questions. You think there is a clearly defined difference between terrorist and criminal, so clear a four year old knows the difference, but haven't supplied one yet. Heck you can't even tell me the strong similarities between Japan at Pearl Harbor and terrorists today...after all terrorists are our enemy, just like Japan...No different. Go on, make another snide remark, go ahead and talk about baseball again, but maybe, just maybe, you can find it through that thick ego to show the clear definitions of criminal and terrorist and the similarity of terrorist and Japan, circa WWII.
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    Gentlemen,

    It's all a moot point........terrorist, criminal....meet the US Navy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jccrabby3084 View Post
    Once again Georgie you have ignored the question and wanted to talk baseball instead. You want to try and be so sly with the difference in major leagues and little league. Do you want to see the Yankees get a game handed to them by a little league team? Yet you stated before terrorists are the enemy, no different than Japan. No different, none, really? You wanted to point out all the differences in baseball...where are all the similarities with terrorists and Japan? C'mon Georgie, you are the self proclaimed smartest person on these forums, where are these similarities?

    So wait, Jasper has a good post, addresses the issue, but then again now you want to split terrorists into domestic and international. So what is going to define what constitutes a domestic and international terrorist? I brought up the comparison with Nichols and McVeigh, both of whom were charged as criminals. What about extremist groups within our own borders like the KKK or NeoNazis? Afterall they use terrorist type of activities and have a politically charged agenda, much like Al Qeada does, so why are we not going after these groups? Are they not terrorists? are they not the enemy? Just like Japan was after it bombed Pearl Harbor?

    Nevermind Georgie, I already have my answer from you, three times now, where all you want to talk about is baseball. You want to try and bust my chops for my comments...whoopity do, I work in a firehouse where chops are busted more times than what a butcher can do at a meat plant. Some stranger on the internet isn't going to affect me. I have thick skin and a sense of humor, which is why I find it comical you still have averted the questions. You think there is a clearly defined difference between terrorist and criminal, so clear a four year old knows the difference, but haven't supplied one yet. Heck you can't even tell me the strong similarities between Japan at Pearl Harbor and terrorists today...after all terrorists are our enemy, just like Japan...No different. Go on, make another snide remark, go ahead and talk about baseball again, but maybe, just maybe, you can find it through that thick ego to show the clear definitions of criminal and terrorist and the similarity of terrorist and Japan, circa WWII.
    Genius.

    I already answered this question WWWWAAAAAYYYY back in the first few posts. But for those who can't retain information, I'll try again.

    Al Queda and Japan are exactly the same in this sense. They both decided that they wanted to declare war on the US. Both conducted an organized, synchronized, military unprovoked sneak attack on US assets. Both attacks killed thousands and injured tens of thousands. Both entities had the same motivation; to destroy the US and to expand the empire and sphere of influence. Both failed and had their *** handed to them by the US military.

    It's not that I want to split terrorism into domestic and international. It is the FB friggin I who does it. There are terrorism statutes on both the state and federal level. But they are not generally used for US citizens who commit crimes on US soil. Examples of domestic terrorism include, abortion rights extremists, animal rights extremists and environmental extremists. They are not used when foreign operatives execute acts of war on our soil.

    It completely astounds me that an adult in this day and age can be so grossly misinformed. It's pathetic. I tried to dumb it down with the baseball analogies, but even that didn't work. I'll try to work on analogies involving Sponge Bob or The Wiggles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firegod343 View Post
    Gentlemen,

    It's all a moot point........terrorist, criminal....meet the US Navy.
    Heartless bastards. The pirates didn't even get to open their Easter baskets.
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    I realize that we all have different views, but that is what we are supposed to have the right to have, if this Country is really a "free" Country, correct? If you must voice your opinion on a certain political subject, doing so with restraint and class would seem to get your point across more effectively. When the board starts to look like a high school flaming board from back in the days, I start to wonder what have we learned since we graduated and moved on. We have children we are supposed to be leading and setting an example for. I know I try to teach my children how to get their point out there and be heard. They understand that everyone deserves respect going into the game, and name calling and belittling will only shut down any possibility of reception to any new concept or idea you are attempting to present. Wouldn't presenting your opinion with substaniative facts (which by the way always seem to be missing, when the press or some talking head gets ahold of the microphone or pen) and coherent explaination serve you better, if what you are actually attempting to do, is have your viewpoint taken seriously by those who encounter it? Whether or not they choose to agree, you at least gave yourself the opportunity to be heard and taken seriously. If you truely feel you have something to bring to the table, that will be a benefit to the rest of us, then please conduct yourself as such. Yes respect should be earned, but it also should be given, and learned. ;D.

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    Maybe you all want to read the story on the Italian cruise ship. As I stated earlier, pirates may be in for some more rude surprises. Criminals or terrorists, a 9 mil doesn't differentiate

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    Quote Originally Posted by BryanLoader View Post
    Criminals or terrorists, a 9 mil doesn't differentiate

    Nine mm? I prefer a Glock .40, or a .357 for some home insurance.


    You're right though, until a few more are killed or prevented from boarding, due to superior firepower, nothing will change. Once these animals learn it ain't so easy, they'll find another way to make their money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jasper45 View Post
    Nine mm? I prefer a Glock .40, or a .357 for some home insurance.


    You're right though, until a few more are killed or prevented from boarding, due to superior firepower, nothing will change. Once these animals learn it ain't so easy, they'll find another way to make their money.
    Actually Jasper, on the story that said the israelis fired at the pirates using their pistols, they failed to mention they were actually machine pistols
    Uzis as far as I know.

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