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    Default Class "A" Dress-Black or Navy???

    After years of trying, we may be looking to purchase actual class "A" dress uniforms. Up till now, all we've had is long-sleeve shirts with ties.

    But I have a question. What do most of you have (that have them), black or navy? Which do you think looks better? Personally, I like the black.

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    From my experience at LODD funerals and the IAFF Memorial serivces in Colorado Springs.. the predominant color is Navy Blue.

    That's why many FD refer to class A's as "dress Blues"

    At the funeral for Lt. Kelley of the BFD, there was one FD represented that had gray class A's with a red stripe down the pant legs.. it looked like the uniforms were donated by a marching band.
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    We are blue collar, not black collar.

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    Typical out here-

    Line personnel- Navy BLUE

    Upper Management- Black

    Under shirt- White.

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    I've seen navy blue far more than any other color. There's variance on shade and style, but blue is the color traditionally associated with Fire Service uniforms. Oh crap, there I go dropping the T-bomb. The black uniforms look pretty good, but they just don't look like a Fire Service uniform to me.
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    Every time I've seen them around these parts, they've been black, but just about the only people that have them are officers.

    Actually had a chief in a neighboring department try to argue that the stripes were for years of service and the crosses for rank, instead of the other way around.

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    how about both... blue pants and black tie....

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    Ours are navy blue.

    We purchased ours from Lighthouse Uniforms in Washington state. Part of their pitch was that they use the same fabric color approved by the US Navy since 1940-something or the other... and that's remained unchanged since then. (This was before the USN's recent uniform redesign. Might need to check back. )

    I tell you all of this to say that while the uniforms are technically navy blue... and certainly not black... but they are a very dark navy blue, which looks pretty sharp.
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    Our dress uniform since 1988 has been the same as the U. S. Navy Officers uniform, with the exception of the shoulder boards. Same style and color.
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    Navy blue pants/coats, white dress shirt for all, black tie. Rank designated by stripes on coat sleeves, and by band on cap.

    If only we as firefighters would never have to wear them again unless as part of a parade or swearing in ceremony.

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    Navy Blue is the Norm here in the Mid Atlantic area. And, Double Breasted Jackets. Sleeve Stripes denote Rank, 5 for The Chief, 4 for 2nd in Command, 3 for third, 2 for Captain/Battalion Chief 1 for Lt./other Rank. Gold Buttons for Officers, Silver for Rank and File. Left Jacket Sleeve has One Gold Star for Each 5 Years of Service. (I'm working towards Star # 11) "Trumpets" on Badges are the same count as Sleeve Stripes. Department Patch on Left Shoulder, Local opinion dictates what is on right shoulder......
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    Here it's black pants and white shirts for officers.

    Blue pants and powder blue shirts for firefighters.

    Very common color scheme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hwoods View Post
    Left Jacket Sleeve has One Gold Star for Each 5 Years of Service. (I'm working towards Star # 11)
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    Quote Originally Posted by FWDbuff View Post
    You and my dad went to the same one-room schoolhouse and shoveled coal into the same steamer, didn't you?

    Having never lived in William Penn's woods, No, but it would have been an honor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rescue101 View Post
    Harve,That pup's always shaking the bush.hehe T.C.
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    Our Class A's are as follows:
    Firefighters: single breasted navy blue jacket and pants, white shirt, black tie, blue tub hat, black shoes. Honor guard members have black paratrooper boots, red shoulder braid and red scarves.

    Red stripes around the bottom of the sleeves of the jacket with one red "hash mark" for every 5 years of service. FD shoulder patch on the left sleeve, the American Flag on the right

    Officers:
    Double breasted navy blue jacket and pants, white shirt, black tie, white tub hat with silver band and black shoes.

    Silver stripes around the bottom of the sleeves of the jacket (1 for Lt's, 2 for Captains) with one silver "hash mark" for every 5 years of service. FD shoulder patch on the left sleeve, the Amrican Flag on the right.

    Deputy Chiefs and Chief of Department have gold stripes, gold hash marks and gold bands on their hat. Chief of Department also has "scrambled eggs" on the visor of his tub hat.
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    Thanks for all the input Bro's. Looks like the blue wins.

    Finally getting some stuff done around here. First the leather turnout boots now real dress uniforms.

    Now, if I can just get the leather helmets pushed through.
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    As most of the members from the Mid Atlantic area have said and some elsewhere, the Navy Officers uniform is standard for most of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cozmosis View Post
    Ours are navy blue.

    We purchased ours from Lighthouse Uniforms in Washington state. Part of their pitch was that they use the same fabric color approved by the US Navy since 1940-something or the other... and that's remained unchanged since then. (This was before the USN's recent uniform redesign. Might need to check back. )

    I tell you all of this to say that while the uniforms are technically navy blue... and certainly not black... but they are a very dark navy blue, which looks pretty sharp.
    I have also heard of it refered to as LAPD Navy Blue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by croaker260 View Post
    I have also heard of it refered to as LAPD Navy Blue.
    Well, calling it a cop color isn't a good way to sell uniforms to firemen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave1983 View Post
    Thanks for all the input Bro's. Looks like the blue wins.

    Finally getting some stuff done around here. First the leather turnout boots now real dress uniforms.

    Now, if I can just get the leather helmets pushed through.

    Dave, Which is better, Leather or Tupperware??........ And, do you use Fog or Straight stream?????????????................
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