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    Default What states do not have a max age of 35 to get on a department?

    Would anyone have a list off hand of the states that do not have a max age to get on a department? Or could someone point me in the right direction to it? Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by shafrans9 View Post
    Would anyone have a list off hand of the states that do not have a max age to get on a department? Or could someone point me in the right direction to it? Thanks
    Maryland and Virginia to start.
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    Add Florida to the list.
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    Add Missouri

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    State of Oregon

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    While most in Illinois use the 35 age, some do not and have no restriction. Normal and Bloomington IL hire experienced paramedics at any age.

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    Washington as well.

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    The state of Louisiana does not have a maximum age.

    However, the state firefighters retirement system, which is independent from the state, has a maximum age of 50 for career personnel.

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    New Hampshire.

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    Alabama doesn't have a max age

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    Virginia and MD have many depts, so apply to an many as you can, as getting hired is tough at the moment.

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    California does not.
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    I believe a better question would have been who DOES have a max age, becuase it is looking like no one has ever heard of this concept.

    Add GA to the list for not having it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTRider245 View Post
    I believe a better question would have been who DOES have a max age, becuase it is looking like no one has ever heard of this concept.

    Add GA to the list for not having it.
    There are several DEPARTMENTS that have a max attainable age before hiring. I don't know that there are State requirements.

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    Like mark440 said, I do not beleve it to be a "State" requirement to be a cetiain age to start employment. That generally is a rule set up by the pension system for each agency.

    To comment on the OP, We do allow persons over the age of 35 to enter our pension system.
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    State of Arkansas is 35, but if you have paid past or current service you can subtract your years of paid service from current age and if doesn't go over 32 you take the test.

    AR Act 743 (2007)

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    No max in Michigan i know of, we've hired guys in their 40s.

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    NY state has max enter age for police. I imagine its the same for paid fire. I believe the age thing is becaue its a civil service job and the civil service list tells the FIRE dept who they can hire. Can you imagine if the last list said you had to pick from these 30 guys and the were all over 55 .. and the FD had to pay'em to send them through the academy. That can be expensive for only a few years of work before retirement.

    If your prior military you can subtract some years, up to 6 i think, off the age maximum.

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    Default It's based on a federal law...

    There was a law which passed at the federal level about 10-12 years ago, which mandated public safety officers MUST retire at the age of 63. They also inserted language in the same law that the states and/or municipalities could set maximum hiring ages for public safety personnel (usually 35 years of age,) and even moreso, could NOT be sued for age discrimination. I realize this is a young man's job, but I feel they are throwing away a lot of experience by having these limits. And with all these pension systems being underfunded and the cities being negligent in keeping up with their pension committments to their public safety personnel, the age debate is a moot one. Amazing that all the politicians and their multiple pensions are fully funded and protected without question.

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    Add New Mexico to the list. Nobody around here has ever heard of a max hiring age

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    Minnesota has a manditory retirement age of 65.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDean1262 View Post
    There was a law which passed at the federal level about 10-12 years ago.

    ...mandated public safety officers MUST retire at the age of 63.

    ...maximum hiring ages for public safety personnel (usually 35 years of age,).

    ...could NOT be sued for age discrimination.
    ...and where do we find THIS law.
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    Mississippi does not either.

    We are a volunteer department.
    We'd be hard pressed to find enough of the "youngsters" nowadays to respond.
    Too much other junk for their minds to serve their communities.

    We don't discriminate at our department based on age, sex, religion, sexual preference, or race.
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    I'd say 3/4 of our department is over 35.
    Most of those over 40.
    Our safety officer is almost 70.

    Age doesn't matter as much as experience, knowlege, and ability to do the job RIGHT.

    What draconian area would do this anyway??
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    I'm going to restart this thread as a 34 y/o FF/P who got hired at 33 in Ohio. Whatever federal law that REQUIRES officers to retire at 63 evidently doesn't apply here (or is BS --which is my belief) since my PT dept deputy chief is 73. There are MANY dept's in Ohio that have no max age, but mainly smaller one's. With the DROP program I will be 58 before even being eligible and 61 with min 3 yrs in it with max 8 yrs making me 64 before retiring.

    My FT dept interviewed 10 guys and the list went -- #'s 1-5 all over 30 and #'s 6-10 all under 30. Why? They wanted people that didn't need babysitters, were experienced (I had 6 yrs as volunteer), and were responsible and respectable citizens. The 2 of us that got hired were 33 and 30 with the next 3 being 35, 33, 31. #'s 6-10 were all in early-mid 20's, some with degrees. A piece of paper that says your smart doesn't guarantee you a job. None of the top 5 had degrees.

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