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05-05-2009, 12:21 AM #76
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I present the United States Department of State Guide for the Renunciation of U.S. Citizenship
And I quote from the fine folks at the Department of State:
F. RENUNCIATION FOR MINOR CHILDREN
Parents cannot renounce U.S. citizenship on behalf of their minor children. Before an oath of renunciation will be administered under Section 349(a)(5) of the INA, a person under the age of eighteen must convince a U.S. diplomatic or consular officer that he/she fully understands the nature and consequences of the oath of renunciation, is not subject to duress or undue influence, and is voluntarily seeking to renounce his/her U.S. citizenship.
Whenever the loss of United States nationality is put in issue in any action or proceeding commenced on or after September 26, 1961 under, or by virtue of, the provisions of this chapter or any other Act, the burden shall be upon the person or party claiming that such loss occurred, to establish such claim by a preponderance of the evidence."They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin
05-05-2009, 02:24 AM #77Originally Posted by idiotboyPolitics is like driving. To go forward select "D", to go backward select "R."
05-05-2009, 02:27 AM #78
05-05-2009, 06:26 AM #79
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I also found thisParents cannot renounce United States citizenship on behalf of their children. Before an oath of renunciation will be administered under Section 349(a)(5), persons under the age of eighteen must convince a U.S. diplomatic or consular officer that they fully understand the nature and consequences of the oath of renunciation and are voluntarily seeking to renounce their citizenship. United States common law establishes an arbitrary limit of age fourteen under which a child's understanding must be established by substantial evidence.
Under Section 351(b) of the Immigration and Nationality Act [8 U.S.C. 1483(b)], a person who renounced U.S. citizenship before the age of eighteen years and "who within six months after attaining the age of eighteen years asserts his claim to United States nationality in such manner as the Secretary of State shall by regulation prescribe, shall not be deemed to have expatriated himself...." The relevant regulation is Section 50.20(b) of Title 22 of the Code of Federal Regulations which requires that the person take an oath of allegiance to the United States before a diplomatic or consular officer in order to retain U.S. citizenship.
That said, he does go against many of the founding and guiding principles of this country. The most basic right was that of freedom from government intervention. Our fore fathers recognized the need for a set of rules and that a governing body was needed to help the people coexist. Unfortunately, our government has gone form one of let the people be free to one of the government will tell you what to do. Sometime back in the late 1800s the snowball of governmental interference was started. And as it has rolled downhill it has gained in size and momentum. Our leaders need to get back to the basics. They need to take this country back to its free, entrepreneurial, self it once was. This country's basic foundations are of a free enterprise and a free people. I say if one doesn't like the foundations and basic principles of this country then they shouldn't be here. It's just like I detest groups like PETA, the rainbow coalition, KKK, NAACP, Sierra Club, GreenPeace etc. So I am not part of those groups and I don't try to change them. If you don't like the basic principles of America then find a place that subscribes to your principles.
Again, I look forward to more intelligent post like this. Thank you.
Last edited by ScareCrow57; 05-05-2009 at 06:29 AM.
05-05-2009, 09:42 AM #80Originally Posted by idiotboy
Originally Posted by idiotboyPolitics is like driving. To go forward select "D", to go backward select "R."
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