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    Thumbs down Connecticut Department's Response Drill Stopped by Police

    http://cms.firehouse.com/content/art...6&sectionId=46

    Are you serious. We can't see that running hot to nothing could be a problem. Please don't tell me that this is common practice.


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    I'm reasonably confident that this was the first and last. Besides not being a good idea, it is also against the law in CT.
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    Stupidity at it's finest!
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    The thing I don't get is that they chief said to stop at all stop signs and stop lights. Does he mean stop before going through (a good practice) or obey the traffic control device?

    It doesn't really add up to me, sounds like hardcore whacking. They should be able to look over old run times and be able to figure out how quickly they can cover ground. There are also computer programs out there that would let them do all of this and play around with different locations without endangering anyone.

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    Someone didnt think that through very well.
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    Just go out at 3 am and drive normally.

    At that time of night in most areas, the lights/sirens don't buy you all that much more time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefKN View Post
    Just go out at 3 am and drive normally.

    At that time of night in most areas, the lights/sirens don't buy you all that much more time.
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    When we first looked at possible sites for building a new station, the architects had us drive non-emergency from each location at different times of day. I believe they used an average of these numbers to calculate which location was best. (Although we ended up going with the one that cost us the least money. ) I can't believe that a fire chief honestly thought that sending fire trucks on multiple trips with lights and sirens was a good way to collect this data.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cozmosis View Post
    I can't believe that a fire chief honestly thought that sending fire trucks on multiple trips with lights and sirens was a good way to collect this data.
    Thats why he wears a white helmet.

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    I used to live in Glenville and know the area well. The issue with long response times more then anything has to do with lot of hills and winding roads combined with large pieces of property. And as it said, they need more coverage. Just getting from my home through town took forever. They added Opticom systems to all the lights in the late 90's which helped them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefKN View Post
    Just go out at 3 am and drive normally.

    At that time of night in most areas, the lights/sirens don't buy you all that much more time.


    Yeah exactly, I canít understand how they could think this was a good idea, I think that we all know that every response even to the same place is different each time and can vary. Not to mention the added liability of responding code 3 especially on a ďmockĒ drill.
    Totally Unacceptable !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Try going on Dateline to explain that Chief!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dickey View Post
    Try going on Dateline to explain that Chief!!
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    I think we should wait until a full report is out to pass judgement

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    I think we should wait until a full report is out to pass judgement
    I agree you should wait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nameless View Post
    I think we should wait until a full report is out to pass judgement
    This is not a firefighter injury or LODD. This is pretty cut and dry. I doubt if another report will even come out.
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    Hahaha. Hypocrites. All ya know is what the media says. Same as all we know when there is an accident. But its ok to call it cut and dry here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nmfire View Post
    Hahaha. Hypocrites. All ya know is what the media says. Same as all we know when there is an accident. But its ok to call it cut and dry here.
    Considering that those "accused" of making mistakes admit their mistakes... your comparison falls flat.

    Nice try though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nameless View Post
    I think we should wait until a full report is out to pass judgement
    Yes, since the Chief and AC of the department in question admitted fault, let's wait for the report to come out.
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    Would it not have been better to just take a look at responce times from past calls. If you have an area that has a consistant responce time greater than the 4 minute target time. I would think that somewhere in that area would be a good place for a new station.
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